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Domin · 1 Nov 2002, 02:36

I can see lots of fury planets attacking girlee... Acording to the rules donations/farming it is illegal.

Isn't this policy you are against for you members Fury?

-=Zyth=- · 1 Nov 2002, 02:37

Its happened b4, it will happen again. girlee has given up playing so why shouldnt her allaince have her roids?

Farming is organised cynicism, there is a slight difference.

Domin · 1 Nov 2002, 02:41

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Originally posted by -=Zyth=-
Its happened b4, it will happen again. girlee has given up playing so why shouldnt her allaince have her roids?

Farming is organised cynicism, there is a slight difference.

cause it's donations and it's against the rules?

Axis_WLF · 1 Nov 2002, 02:44

Goes to a sense of who those roids belong to, the reality is their girlees roids but alliance wise fury would claim they belong to them but to the creators they would belong only to the person playing that planet. Same thing a few people were closed for last round , so in creators eyes ya that would be farming. In my opinion its them trying to keep roids from the enemy but still farming.

-=Zyth=- · 1 Nov 2002, 02:54

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
Goes to a sense of who those roids belong to, the reality is their girlees roids but alliance wise fury would claim they belong to them but to the creators they would belong only to the person playing that planet. Same thing a few people were closed for last round , so in creators eyes ya that would be farming. In my opinion its them trying to keep roids from the enemy but still farming.

I very much disagree with this definition, not defending fury's actions (cos by implication its got to be wrong). If its thier #1 player taking those roids and its been decided thats the way they will do it, then yes it is wrong, otherwise no it isnt.

Axis_WLF · 1 Nov 2002, 03:02

I dont disagree that its their player, im saying thats not how creators would see it. Girlees planet is owned by fury but in the creators minds it belongs to one person. The creators dont work in the "codes" of alliances as we do. I even think its a valid tactic but im not the one who banned farming.

In the creators minds if they saw what the stats of that planet they would view it as farming, but you could argue all day over the definition of farming or what constitutes farming. The facts are fury are attacking her , she is fury, and willingly giving the roids up. What would you call that?

Axis_WLF · 1 Nov 2002, 03:06

You have a few tactics which all "supposedly" border line farming.

1: If there is to much incoming on a planet and defence is not gonna help. Launching Red Defence to raise cap.

2: If your planet recently had loads of incoming and you fear more will come you willingly allow your planet to be roided to thus giving your roids to your alliance mates so that your planet is left alone and that your roids remain within the alliance.

-=Zyth=- · 1 Nov 2002, 03:07

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
I dont disagree that its their player, im saying thats not how creators would see it. Girlees planet is owned by fury but in the creators minds it belongs to one person. The creators dont work in the "codes" of alliances as we do. I even think its a valid tactic but im not the one who banned farming.

In the creators minds if they saw what the stats of that planet they would view it as farming, but you could argue all day over the definition of farming or what constitutes farming. The facts are fury are attacking her , she is fury, and willingly giving the roids up. What would you call that?

Lamentable. I hate it when a player gives up.

Tempestuous · 1 Nov 2002, 03:08

Some Fury members are attacking a planet, omg no

Axis_WLF · 1 Nov 2002, 03:09

I dont disagree with what their doing in fact I think its a smart call on their part. If this isnt farming though what would you call it? Also what is your definition of farming?

1 Nov 2002, 03:09

i don't think it counts as farming if she has 100 mil fleets points attacking her

now kindly fck off

Nadval · 1 Nov 2002, 03:10

girlee hasn't given up..... maybe fury are just tryin to keep the roids within the alliance instead of lettin them slip away? who knows!? :-P

KillGhost · 1 Nov 2002, 03:10

here we go again *sigh*

Nadval · 1 Nov 2002, 03:12

oh and btw, i haven't ACTUALY seen girlee give anyone consent to 'farm' her planet, therefore fury is merely roiding her.

1 Nov 2002, 03:13

Im waiting for the puritan non farming gang to come in and rip this thread to peices. Should be an exciting few pages of pointless drivel \o/

1 Nov 2002, 03:13

yes, with no fleet it's hard to stop us eh?

-=Zyth=- · 1 Nov 2002, 03:13

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
I dont disagree with what their doing in fact I think its a smart call on their part. If this isnt farming though what would you call it? Also what is your definition of farming?

Farming is when a planet is creating roids directly for the benefit of others. This is more a case of donating roids as the player has given up, rather than a case of donating for the benefit of another although im not in the know as to who is getting these roids, like i said b4 if shes been told they are going to darki cos he lost some earlier then its so very wrong and both planets should be deleted for it. If its just redistribution amoungst the masses, or to a m8 the personally i can't see a problem with it. So long as it isnt cynical, tactical and to the detriment of others.

1 Nov 2002, 03:14

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Originally posted by Nadval
oh and btw, i haven't ACTUALY seen girlee give anyone consent to 'farm' her planet, therefore fury is merely roiding her.

I havnt seen her give her consent to fury roiding her ethier!1111!!!!11 that means it MUST be a legitimate attack

Axis_WLF · 1 Nov 2002, 03:15

So if you pass a certain number of fleet usage it can no longer be farming? What is the total amount of ships that would NOT constitute farming?

1 Nov 2002, 03:17

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
So if you pass a certain number of fleet usage it can no longer be farming? What is the total amount of ships that would NOT constitute farming?

bottom line is...we aint farming her...we are roiding her.

farming is when a planet is created for giving roids to a person. In this case here are like 50 fleets going at her at once. This serves 2 purposes.

1) lower the % cap
2) make sure that some of the roids stay within fury

it's perfectly legit tactic. If you wanna call it farming...what about the 4 waves that came before this?
or the titans/ldk ships that are atatcking her right now. They are farming just as much as any fury planet that launched on her.

Axis_WLF · 1 Nov 2002, 03:19

She allows you to roid her?

Nadval · 1 Nov 2002, 03:23

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Originally posted by Cooling

I havnt seen her give her consent to fury roiding her ethier!1111!!!!11 that means it MUST be a legitimate attack

the fact i'm in fury helps :-)

-=Zyth=- · 1 Nov 2002, 03:23

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
She allows you to roid her?

oh come on, back in the days of inner gal raiding, if you saw a galm8 under attack and all you had were pods you would send them to attack and so keeping the roids in the gal. this is basically the same thing.

1 Nov 2002, 03:25

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
She allows you to roid her?

girlee never said: come roid me

fury was told to roid her. It was not her choice. Whether or not she would have made the same choice is meaningless, as she didn't.

therefore it aint farming

-=Zyth=- · 1 Nov 2002, 03:28

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Originally posted by Full of Alcohol

girlee never said: come roid me

fury was told to roid her. It was not her choice. Whether or not she would have made the same choice is meaningless, as she didn't.

therefore it aint farming

as much as i have been resonable in this thread, i only have this to say about your comment. Glad im not in fury!

Nadval · 1 Nov 2002, 03:30

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Originally posted by -=Zyth=-

as much as i have been resonable in this thread, i only have this to say about your comment. Glad im not in fury!

we're glad ur not too :-)

if ur sayin if u had no fleet and 2500 roids u wouldn't want fury to roid u before oposition did... then tbh i'm sure we're glad ur not either...

-=Zyth=- · 1 Nov 2002, 03:49

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Originally posted by Nadval

we're glad ur not too :-)

if ur sayin if u had no fleet and 2500 roids u wouldn't want fury to roid u before oposition did... then tbh i'm sure we're glad ur not either...

who said i would have a choice?

SpazMonster · 1 Nov 2002, 03:58

hmm.. has anyone even thought of the obvious? Couldn't it just be red defence. In her previous thread she said she was expecting residual incoming for the next couple of days because of the festivities at her planet. She also stated that she would continue to play. Could this not be a way to minimize losses over the next couple of days?

*shock* *horror*omg!

Axis_WLF · 1 Nov 2002, 04:01

I do not disagree with what their doing, im just asking some questions. So what your saying is Fury set up an attack on their own member for the purpose of roiding that fury member right? Just asking.

BOB_LOST · 1 Nov 2002, 04:01

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Originally posted by Cooling

I havnt seen her give her consent to fury roiding her ethier!1111!!!!11 that means it MUST be a legitimate attack

why whould her own allince roid her than if nothing to to FARM HER ROIDS maybe the pa team should close them for that

Axis_WLF · 1 Nov 2002, 04:07

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Originally posted by SpazMonster
hmm.. has anyone even thought of the obvious? Couldn't it just be red defence. In her previous thread she said she was expecting residual incoming for the next couple of days because of the festivities at her planet. She also stated that she would continue to play. Could this not be a way to minimize losses over the next couple of days?

*shock* *horror*omg!

If that were true then everyone that expected incoming would all be roided by their own alliance first. Are fury or others planning to Pre-roid their members first?

SpazMonster · 1 Nov 2002, 04:20

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF

If that were true then everyone that expected incoming would all be roided by their own alliance first. Are fury or others planning to Pre-roid their members first?

before? what? the poster said 'lots of fury'. S/He did not say 'all fury' incoming, leaving to reason that she's still legitimately under attack and legitimately fury could be sending red defence.

So there mr axis_poo

Scoot951 · 1 Nov 2002, 04:24

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Originally posted by -=Zyth=-

oh come on, back in the days of inner gal raiding, if you saw a galm8 under attack and all you had were pods you would send them to attack and so keeping the roids in the gal. this is basically the same thing.

But back then, farming was legal.

While I disagree with some of the definitions of farming I've seen here, this doesn't look like farming to me, due to the fact that a helluva lot of people are doing it, picking out the Fury members and making them farmers would be silly, as they're doing nothing more than anyone else.

HobbieRogue4 · 1 Nov 2002, 04:26

Perceived Situational Intent

AlbinoSquirrel · 1 Nov 2002, 04:32

Farming is taking roids for benefit of one's own planet, red defense is denying those roids to the opposition - scorched earth tactics. Really quite simple, but there are people who appear to be unwilling to "think" about things, and want to try and string people up because of some childish vendetta.

Go on now.

Zh|l · 1 Nov 2002, 04:42

No wonder DTA got caught farming. They cant quite seem to grasp what it actually is.

Axis_WLF · 1 Nov 2002, 04:46

come on some of your guys got deleted for swapping planets/account sharing some of our peeps got deleted for supposedly "farming".

I didnt personally accuse anyone of farming, I ever said it was a smart tactic. Looks to me like a Fury raid on a Fury member but I can still ask questions since the thread is up.

Outcast2k · 1 Nov 2002, 05:42

If it was an individual or two roiding girlee, it would be farming, but since its an whole alliance .... And like people said earlier, it wasn't her choice, it was a Fury decision.

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Originally posted by Zh|l
No wonder DTA got caught farming. They cant quite seem to grasp what it actually is.

LMAO.

Psi_K · 1 Nov 2002, 05:44

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Originally posted by Full of Alcohol

girlee never said: come roid me

fury was told to roid her. It was not her choice. Whether or not she would have made the same choice is meaningless, as she didn't.

therefore it aint farming

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Originally posted by -=Zyth=-

as much as i have been resonable in this thread, i only have this to say about your comment. Glad im not in fury!

Hear Hear!!!!!!!

Scoot951 · 1 Nov 2002, 06:22

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Originally posted by Psi_K

Hear Hear!!!!!!! [/b]

2nded...(or is it 3rded now?) The day my allies attack me 'for the good of the alliance' without me even being consulted is the day I find a new alliance.

Saitam · 1 Nov 2002, 06:31

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Originally posted by Outcast2k
If it was an individual or two roiding girlee, it would be farming, but since its an whole alliance .... And like people said earlier, it wasn't her choice, it was a Fury decision.

Note to self, if everyone in my allaince gets a part of my roids it is not farming, it is a "collective redistrubution of roids" and as such it is allowed.

But when a few ppl do it, then of course it is farming.

Morden · 1 Nov 2002, 06:56

right so everyone who attacks her is farming?

Storebo · 1 Nov 2002, 09:09

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
Goes to a sense of who those roids belong to, the reality is their girlees roids but alliance wise fury would claim they belong to them but to the creators they would belong only to the person playing that planet. Same thing a few people were closed for last round , so in creators eyes ya that would be farming. In my opinion its them trying to keep roids from the enemy but still farming.

Isn't farming... is piggy to wreck up the ticks for her attackers.
If everyone outside Fury stops attacking her right now... Everyone inside Fury will do the same.

Axis_WLF · 1 Nov 2002, 09:14

aye dunno why peeps had trouble saying what ya said.

Bloodaxe · 1 Nov 2002, 10:22

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Originally posted by Full of Alcohol

now kindly fck off

and the #1 farmer has just spoken himself! Farming a friend in our galaxy and then using him to tell when we where offline/online to attack us is just what you have done yourself this round (pre newsscans)so please watch your own words on farming.

Hardin · 1 Nov 2002, 11:21

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Originally posted by Scoot951

2nded...(or is it 3rded now?) The day my allies attack me 'for the good of the alliance' without me even being consulted is the day I find a new alliance.

Well u c its like this...

Last round Fury had the other FLVT alliance members to roid once they got bored.

This round they are playing on their own...so who else do you expect them to roid but their own members...it's just a logical progression...

ffs...who else would Fury be able to roid if not their own members

They need roids from somewhere u know...

girlee · 1 Nov 2002, 11:32

should i bother replying? probably not...

what;s the point? i'll be losing all my roids.... 2k roids and 8mil score.. hmm.. i'm the juiciest target in the universe.

personally, i'd rather just get it over faster so i can get on with the game. roid me down to, hmm.. what? let's say 400-500 roids to fit my 8mil score?

at the rate it's going.. it will take days.

but what can i say? my attackers are a bunch of noobs who dont bother to newsscan and see i already have 30k incoming at any one tick and they send 20k more themselves thinking they're gonna cap roids? heh

i understand with my friends and alliance-mates are doing.. crashing the cap so my hostile attackers wont cap... but honestly.. this is killing me.

take my fricking roids, take em fast, and let me play the game again please.

and f*cking learn how to calc a battle? thanks good game, k bye

and btw.. if ur 'friendly attacking' me, um.. next time make sure my fleet isnt returning at the tick ur attack fleet lands. =p

Storebo · 1 Nov 2002, 11:33

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Originally posted by Allfather
last time i checked it was fleetworth attacking that lowered cap, you dont need pods for that...
And yes its farming, and im pritty dissapointed in fury cause of it...Was kinda hoping for them to do well without "cheating" this round..

The less roids going to Titans the better...

Hardin · 1 Nov 2002, 11:37

U sound all bitter and twisted...

I can remember the old Storebo back in R5 when Fury backstabbed Elysium - then Fury was the scum of the earth...

So now u don't like Titans...

Strange how things change...

Storebo · 1 Nov 2002, 11:39

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Originally posted by Hardin
U sound all bitter and twisted...

I can remember the old Storebo back in R5 when Fury backstabbed Elysium - then Fury was the scum of the earth...

So now u don't like Titans...

Strange how things change...

heh...no
u don't seem to remember..
It was Legion who where the scum of the earth back then...
for backstabbing us..
Can't blame Fury for being our enemies... But we can blame our friends for betraying us.

Also... my Titans hatred started in round 6 :P
http://www.stripcreator.com/view.php?author=storebo