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19 Sep 2007, 18:17
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A query
Is making other people laugh merely a way to endear them to you and are you a sociopath if you make jokes for your own benefit alone?
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19 Sep 2007, 18:42
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Re: A query
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Originally Posted by Hebdomad
Is making other people laugh merely a way to endear them to you
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No, it's a side effect of being funny.
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19 Sep 2007, 19:00
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Re: A query
Yeah but you're conciously trying to be funny, so surely there's a reason for it? I'm not including unwittingly making people laugh, to clarify.
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19 Sep 2007, 19:35
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Re: A query
Sometimes I make statments to make others laugh because it makes me feel good about myself to do something that others enjoy.
Sometimes I find something amusing and I share it if there is someone around. Sometimes they think its funny, sometimes they don't.
Sometimes I will verbalize something I think is funny just to see how it sounds. Sometimes it cracks me up. Sometimes I can tell it is a dud or needs some work.
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19 Sep 2007, 20:10
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Re: A query
dda wins absolutely nothing by pointing out the benevolence part that I overlooked! You can all stop discussing it now if you want.
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19 Sep 2007, 20:38
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Re: A query
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Originally Posted by Hebdomad
dda wins absolutely nothing by pointing out the benevolence part that I overlooked! You can all stop discussing it now if you want.
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Can it really be called benevolent when the act is done to make yourself feel good?
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19 Sep 2007, 21:49
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Re: A query
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Originally Posted by All Systems Go
Can it really be called benevolent when the act is done to make yourself feel good?
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Can anything ever be called truly benevolent? Or is the only real motivation for philanthropy and other good deeds the fact that it makes you feel good or happy?
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20 Sep 2007, 09:22
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Re: A query
If everybody would have my sense of humor the world would be a much happier place. So when I make jokes I always laugh with them myself to improve the world. It's pure benevolence.
Also, some people require to know when they should laugh, so I help them like that aswell. Compare it with shows that have them "laugh-tapes" or whatever the correct word is, Entourage for example doesn't have it and suddenly alot of people don't know when to laugh and when not to.
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20 Sep 2007, 09:25
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Re: A query
If you need canned laughter to know when to laugh then the Thought Police have already won.
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20 Sep 2007, 17:37
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Re: A query
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Can anything ever be called truly benevolent? Or is the only real motivation for philanthropy and other good deeds the fact that it makes you feel good or happy?
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It can be both.
Also, if you make someone happy it creates a better atmosphere, which benefits you and others. You could do that just to create a better environment for yourself and still not care about others, or you could do it for yourself and others because of empathy.
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20 Sep 2007, 17:40
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Re: A query
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Originally Posted by Nantoz
Face it, we are not mature/competent/sober enough to have a deep philiosphical converastion via the boards.
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Transference!
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20 Sep 2007, 17:47
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Re: A query
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Originally Posted by All Systems Go
Can it really be called benevolent when the act is done to make yourself feel good?
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For most day to day actions I'm not sure an individuals stated motivations are that important (since they often seem to retrospective rationalisations of behaviour which relatively little thought went into). The other day I was at a train station and saw a woman struggling with a pram on the stairs, so I went and assisted. Did I do it because the woman had some sort of milfish qualities? Or because I'd feel bad if I didn't? Or to impress the person I was with? Is it a piece-meal attempt to build socialist solidarity?
Well, truth be told I can't remember but I choose to believe it's another example of my benevolence. Ultimately, it doesn't seem to matter much and is probably a combination of all the factors I've just mentioned.
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20 Sep 2007, 17:56
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Re: A query
by the way, why have you deleted your blog dante? or is this some sort of inactivity thing on livejournal
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20 Sep 2007, 19:34
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Re: A query
I often tell jokes because I think it's funny. If other people laugh then that is great. I am selfish in this respect because I want them to hear the joke. If they tend to like me a little more then that is a plus but not my motivation in telling the joke.
Often I will tell myself a joke just to hear what it sounds like. A funny thought that has you rolling on the ground may not come out the same when you try to vocalize it. Sometimes I will be laughing hysterically and my son will ask whats so funny. When I tell him he usually just shakes his head but once in a while he will start laughing too.
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god is bollox, mkay and you are not discussing it
You're not the voice of Christianity di**head.
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22 Sep 2007, 12:21
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Re: A query
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by the way, why have you deleted your blog dante? or is this some sort of inactivity thing on livejournal
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Bumping in hope that Dante will undelete his blog
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22 Sep 2007, 21:11
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Re: A query
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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
For most day to day actions I'm not sure an individuals stated motivations are that important (since they often seem to retrospective rationalisations of behaviour which relatively little thought went into). The other day I was at a train station and saw a woman struggling with a pram on the stairs, so I went and assisted. Did I do it because the woman had some sort of milfish qualities? Or because I'd feel bad if I didn't? Or to impress the person I was with? Is it a piece-meal attempt to build socialist solidarity?
Well, truth be told I can't remember but I choose to believe it's another example of my benevolence. Ultimately, it doesn't seem to matter much and is probably a combination of all the factors I've just mentioned.
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Perhaps it was a subconsious desire to sustain a collection of practical examples to use on GD?
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25 Sep 2007, 11:09
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Re: A query
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Originally Posted by Hebdomad
.....are you a sociopath if you make jokes for your own benefit alone?
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It's rather hard to catch yourself out. There's a thin line between amusing and scaring yourself.
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25 Sep 2007, 15:33
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Re: A query
Just the other day I had to laugh with my own joke just to let the people to which I told it to know it was a joke and not to be taken seriously.
It was more one of them "burn"-jokes than an actual joke tho.
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28 Sep 2007, 18:34
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Re: A query
Did you joke that you killed Maddy McCann?
When in actual fact you raped her repeatedly then killed her?
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The 20th century has been characterised by three developments of great political importance. The growth of democracy; the growth of corporate power; and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.
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1 Oct 2007, 11:07
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Re: A query
I'm Belgian, people overhere don't laugh with paedophile jokes anymore. Even if they realise it's a joke.
Not because they think it's cruel or anything like that, but because it lost it's originality a while ago.
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1 Oct 2007, 11:35
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Re: A query
This is the internet. We're so far ahead of the real world that pedo jokes are retro. And thus cool.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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1 Oct 2007, 16:05
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Re: A query
they're more post ironic than retro.
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2 Oct 2007, 12:20
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Re: A query
Jokes? Really? Then why have I....
Um... nm.
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5 Oct 2007, 15:09
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Re: A query
I developed a personality out of sexual neccessity.
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