Planetarion Forums - [Discuss]"Fake defend" -button

Tietäjä · 4 Jun 2005, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Loz

Good fake defence will pull about 5 minutes before the attacker lands, and a brave attacker will be there to see if the def is pulled, and there is still a chance to land it - but if there is a fake defence mission, there will be no need for defenders to pull early, meaning even the brave attackers will end up recalling.

I agree there should be more incentive to send defence fleets, and maybe make attacking a bit less easy, but let's not make it impossible.

What about making the fake defence button recall the defence fleet say 10 minutes before?

Loz · 4 Jun 2005, 19:21

If that's possible it could work...that does make attacking a lot harder, and requires more activity (ie. being online just before it launches). Yeah, if that can be done it's a good idea

I like to jgp at eta 4 though and sleep through landing, I'm not a brave attacker

Ultimate Newbie · 5 Jun 2005, 06:23

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Originally Posted by Tietäjä

What about making the fake defence button recall the defence fleet say 10 minutes before?

This is an excellent idea.

Attackers who cba to follow their attack all the way through to eta 1 (lo Loz

) will still be susecptable to recalling due to fake defence. Attackers who are willing to take the additional 4 hours to wait and see will be rewarded more often. Edit: Potentially at the greater risk of being fleetcaught \o/

This is an excellent compromise i reckon.

cypher · 5 Jun 2005, 11:07

no it's not at all really... as then fake defence is still an easy way out for an inactive defender and imo an attacker in a wargame should get the benefit of the doubt so to say. this basically means there is no penalty whatsoever for fake defending and it would be WAY too powerfull. The best thing that could be done is remove both of em or make a REAL penalty for using either one. let's say eta 10+ normal eta back or whatever so people really can't use the slot anymore. it's not the attackers fault someone is inactive it's not right that some inactive souls can always ruin the opportunity for roids for active people just cuz they can send some fake defence.

cypher · 5 Jun 2005, 11:09

just read the fleetcatch part aswell. with the fake defence part you make it already harder for attackers. and now indeed you increase the risk of being fleetcaught aswell?
I don't see any logic reasoning to implement this kind of option at all.

Tietäjä · 5 Jun 2005, 11:14

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Originally Posted by cypher

The best thing that could be done is remove both of em or make a REAL penalty for using either one.

Yes. In my opinion too, it's either one or none.

Neferti · 5 Jun 2005, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Tietäjä

Yes. In my opinion too, it's either one or none.

Just to clarify - you mean both or none, right?

Judge · 9 Jun 2005, 16:41

Players use fake defence all the time, I have lost count of the number of times I have faked 12k beetle with my spiders/pods, as the beetles were out defending elsewhere.

However as has been said it relies on the player being active at the landing tick, or his ships die.

Adding the ability to send "Fake Defence" ala the Fake Attack option is not a good idea, it will allow for easier use of the fake option and make life very easy for alliances to cover incoming using that fake option.

So in my opinion (for what it is worth) I would be against this option even as a defensive type player it just makes things too easy for the defenders, and makes attacking extremely hard.