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Unread 31 May 2005, 22:30   #1
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The good, the bad + the ugly

Just a little reflection on various chats iv had over the last few days with people... and its come to my attention that it appears that every alliance believes they are the good guys fighting against the rest.

Now my question to the AD masses is;

Are you the good guys? and why?


I'l go first i spose

Im a SiNND BC and i do believe we are the good guys. My main reasoning behind this is because i see us as the underdogs fighting the other alliances. We are outnumbered and outgunned yet still keep fighting with some success tbh (/me waves at LCH). So yeah, were the good guys, you all smell + XomaZ is sexy. Your turn....
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Unread 31 May 2005, 22:33   #2
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

We are good guys cos we weren't the ones who started the war. We were forced to block cos we had Exil/LCH/ToT already blocked against us
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Unread 31 May 2005, 22:35   #3
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

yet ND were napped with 1up preround? /me shrugs, outnumbered? surely not i mean afterall u did merge to produce an active core according to your hc
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

I've always seen 1up as being 'the good guys', but a lot of the time I find myself cheering on the bad guys.
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

There are no good guys in planetarion, only winners and losers.

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Unread 31 May 2005, 22:39   #6
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

what lokken said
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Unread 31 May 2005, 22:40   #7
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

There are honorable and dishonorable players.

edit: and alliances.
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

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yet ND were napped with 1up preround? /me shrugs, outnumbered? surely not i mean afterall u did merge to produce an active core according to your hc
thats ND not SiN
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Unread 31 May 2005, 22:43   #9
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

He's got a point Kila is SiN
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

On one hand it isn't fair to SiN to blame them for all of ND's faults. On the other hand they did merge so are one alliance so it is perfectly allowable.

Lok is right about this being only winners and losers but to put that in pa terms is, winners always = bad guys, losers always = good guys.
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

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thats ND not SiN
well u are 1 unit now so u cannot expect people to not judge u as a whole
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Unread 31 May 2005, 22:56   #12
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

Judge our actions as a whole, as a whole and judge our actions seperately, seperately
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Unread 31 May 2005, 23:06   #13
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I think his point was SiN was neutral before the merger and the wars.
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

1up is the light.

Follow the light.
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

I'm Teh Bad..
Stop bashing my planet ffs
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/me is teh ugly
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

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1up is the light.

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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

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We are good guys cos we weren't the ones who started the war. We were forced to block cos we had Exil/LCH/ToT already blocked against us
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

i think hirr's the good guys, for the rest: we're all bad and ugly
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

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Lok is right about this being only winners and losers but to put that in pa terms is, winners always = bad guys, losers always = good guys.

Wow, Exi has you well-trained don't they =/

Good: F-Crew.... They play on their own, have a strong community spirit, and something about wakey's fleets.

Bad: NoS... Despite Heru and Kargool's sexyness, trying to play Switzerland in PA has generally provoked some negative feelings around =p

Ugly: The_Fish. I'm sorry dude, but that picture of you dressing up as one of the Village people folk... and that Moustache....... I hang my head in shame =p


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ND will always be an evil group of heartless war mongering scum buckets after they roided my beatifull allianceless galaxy in rnd 10.5 to the delight of one of their american blind nationalist zeolot members...

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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

"None of the above."

I am 665 - Almost Evil.

Possibly also an anti-hero.

We, 1up on the collective, are the guys everyone other ourselves love to hate, because frankly, we are that magnificent.

We also tend to love ourselves.

Everyone else is evil

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Good: hirr
Bad: NoS
Ugly: ToF...ugly sods.
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

in rl the ones that win the war are always considered the good guys cuz they make history inhere ofc the winners are the bad guys and everyone else is the good guys, they just lost because the winners did dishonorable things OBVIOUSLY
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We are bad and ugly. We love Pr0n webbies and we are ToT.
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

M.I.L.F are the good guys cos they rock the kazbah.
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Ugly: Angels recruiting policy.
Care to elaborate that? As a peon I am rather curious. Is EXilition recruitment policy then "uglier" or "ugliest"?
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Care to elaborate that? As a peon I am rather curious. Is EXilition recruitment policy then "uglier" or "ugliest"?
That would be a no. Because eX didn't recruit hydra shipjumpers.
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

Ive always seen fury as being the good guys and xan as the bad lot.

The current alliance situation is just a variation on that theme.
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

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That would be a no. Because eX didn't recruit hydra shipjumpers.
SiNND (or HR, or whatever) shipjumpers are then untouchable or somewhat a lot better than Hydra shipjumpers?
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'Good' and 'Bad' are just point of views, erected by the fundamentals most of us have been brought up around, to instill the morals that the major religions have defined.
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'Good' and 'Bad' are just point of views, erected by the fundamentals most of us have been brought up around, to instill the morals that the major religions have defined.
You're still The Ugly though. :eek:
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

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SiNND (or HR, or whatever) shipjumpers are then untouchable or somewhat a lot better than Hydra shipjumpers?
Those have no really high score and ain't high profile... Thus... those don't matter

Shipjumping only matters when the popular opinion (eg: 1UP, because they have the most members on AD) thinks its bad.

I wonder what would have happened if the guys changing alliance changed to 1UP...

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jerome is teh ugly
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Those have no really high score and ain't high profile... Thus... those don't matter

Shipjumping only matters when the popular opinion (eg: 1UP, because they have the most members on AD) thinks its bad.

I wonder what would have happened if the guys changing alliance changed to 1UP...

they do matter, maybe not to you...but they certainly matter to those alliances...and they have burned bridges just the same
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We are good guys cos we weren't the ones who started the war. We were forced to block cos we had Exil/LCH/ToT already blocked against us
Sorry, what alliance are you? Sin i believe

You were forced to block? lol

We have nice logs (thanks to my source) where 1Up/ND/SiN/ToF/NoS were blocked before protection ended. You had a shared attack coordination channel, of which we cud easily get the access list (some fool forgot to set +i on the channel).

Maybe you are uninformed or misinformed, but that doesnt matter; just setting the record straight here: you blocked first, forcing US to counter that.
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly

We are the light at the end of LCHEAT's sorry little tunnel.
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Sorry, what alliance are you? Sin i believe

You were forced to block? lol

We have nice logs (thanks to my source) where 1Up/ND/SiN/ToF/NoS were blocked before protection ended. You had a shared attack coordination channel, of which we cud easily get the access list (some fool forgot to set +i on the channel).

Maybe you are uninformed or misinformed, but that doesnt matter; just setting the record straight here: you blocked first, forcing US to counter that.
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We are outnumbered
ROFL. That made me smile even. How the hell can your alliance be outnumbered when
1. Your alliance has more members than any of the exi/lch/tot block alliances
2. Your block has more members than the exi/lch/tot block

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and outgunned
Indeed, you lack dedication, activity and skills. Because of that your planets are so small that even I, who isn't even in top10, can attack only 3 of them. Others are just too tiny.
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Historically, the good guys are the ones who are losing. The good guys never win. They may hold a top rank, maybe even #1 for a while, but in the end, they lose because they are good.
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It doesn't always turn out like Episode III dude, watch Episode VI
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Historically, the good guys are the ones who are losing. The good guys never win. They may hold a top rank, maybe even #1 for a while, but in the end, they lose because they are good.
You sound bitter. That's my job. Please don't take my job
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ROFL. That made me smile even. How the hell can your alliance be outnumbered when
1. Your alliance has more members than any of the exi/lch/tot block alliances
2. Your block has more members than the exi/lch/tot block
Welcome to AD. Where no matter what, your block is always outnumbered.


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Not top10, but almost top10 on value. Bit low on the XP, even I, who am not even top10, have more than you.
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I actually wasn't trying to come off as bitter. Just my thoughts.
I'm actually quite the happy guy as of recent. I think.
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SiNND (or HR, or whatever) shipjumpers are then untouchable or somewhat a lot better than Hydra shipjumpers?
Yes, because I left SiN and joined eX because in my eyes at that time SiN was dead. Not to mention the fact that SiN is designed to let players go. Also eX is where I will stay until it is gone.

Hydra on the other hand have the reputation of jumping ship everytime their toes get wet.


I could debate this longer if you wish but this thread isn't about that so pm me on irc or something.
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Im the good. If anyone doubted.
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