omg lol

[Amnesia]

gg 1up.

1  1up 293.859.650 
2  LCH 293.027.185

(and i refuse to swear)

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by Amnesia

gg 1up.

1  1up 293.859.650 
2  LCH 293.027.185

(and i refuse to swear)

Why would you want to swear?

[Amnesia]

CONGRATU****INGLATIONS would be appropriate, but that's such a filthy word these days


now you made me say it

[The_Fish]

Well done 1up. But you'll have to work hard to stay there.

[furssie]

I think they'll stay there as the #2 alliance below them are slowly dying, but still kicking.

The only possibility to stop their momentum is for #2 and #3 alliance will hit the #1 (1uup).

Judging their morale and planetary stability even with 30~ handicapp, their defense is so hard to break.

The title of winning 2 rounds in a row whilst 1/3 less members is withing reach.

gg 1up

[lokken]

Originally Posted by The_Fish

Well done 1up. But you'll have to work hard to stay there.

Brilliant underplaying of the hand to avoid everyone going for them out of spite, and leading with just 67 members.

LCH have hardly made themselves any friends through the round, so i suppose we'll have to wait and see, as to what happens now with regards as to who helps them.

I think it'll require major work to take down 1up should anyone decide to, and i would be pleasantly surprised if someone did manage to hit the ground running at this stage with alliances tiring massively and stumbling to the finishing line.

The difference between winning and losing in Planetarion can sometimes merely be the length of time you can keep plugging away at it; persistence and belief means you win, giving up means you're an also ran.

[Banned]

The round is only over when the opposition lays down and dies... Oh wai-

[LocknLoad]

Then its over. 3-4 alliances hitting LCH at the same time has broke their spirit. ND is napped with 1up, might as well say a wing and the others are too afraid. GAME OVER. Of course this was predicted from the beginning and nobody would listen. Good job 1up, pulling the wool over everyones eyes.

[hook]

So I guess this means 1up will drop the NAP's or attack pacts of any sorts, seeing they're not targetting the number one alliance anymore, who had to be stopped from 'running away with the round', right?

[Zh|l]

Originally Posted by LocknLoad

Then its over. 3-4 alliances hitting LCH at the same time has broke their spirit. ND is napped with 1up, might as well say a wing and the others are too afraid. GAME OVER. Of course this was predicted from the beginning and nobody would listen. Good job 1up, pulling the wool over everyones eyes.

OMG yes. 800K score ahead. The round is so over now.

Why don't you all just bow down now rather than later to save me the trouble.



















Above post is sarcastic if anyone can't guess.

[Stifler]

Originally Posted by hook

So I guess this means 1up will drop the NAP's or attack pacts of any sorts, seeing they're not targetting the number one alliance anymore, who had to be stopped from 'running away with the round', right?

ND wont leave them.

1up: Jump
ND: How high sir?

[CrazyConrad]

So now that you have reached #1 1up I am sure your moral stops you from staying allied to the #3 alliance? Aint this the time when #2 and #3 alliance go together to take down #1 :/

[Banned]

One has to ask what motivation ND would have to ally LCH when LCH have purposefully let 1up pass them by not targetting 1up for the last few days.

[hook]

Originally Posted by Banned

One has to ask what motivation ND would have to ally LCH when LCH have purposefully let 1up pass them by not targetting 1up for the last few days.

What about ending in first place?

[Stifler]

Originally Posted by Banned

One has to ask what motivation ND would have to ally LCH when LCH have purposefully let 1up pass them by not targetting 1up for the last few days.

"ok"

[Banned]

Originally Posted by hook

What about ending in first place?

That's pretty clever. Pity LCH were hitting ND instead of 1up, thereby letting 1up pull away from ND. By making it pretty clear that LCH only want either 1up or LCH to win, then antagonizing ND for about a week, they've done very little in my eyes to promote support from ND. After all, ND is still in a position to win, but LCH have already made the political statement that they'd rather let 1up win than see ND over them.

I can see why LCH have jumped at the chance to point out very legitimately that 1up is winning, but as far as I can see they've already burned their bridges with ND. Of course, I'm not ND HC, for all I know they may prefer to finish third to LCH's first rather than second to 1up's first.

[Seed of Chaos]

I hope they preferr to be first rather than second to 1up or 3rd to lch and go for the win :gollum:

PS where's all the other giant smileys gone. Only this one seems to be left

[hook]

Originally Posted by Banned

That's pretty clever. Pity they were hitting ND instead of 1up, thereby pushing ND away. By making it pretty clear that LCH only want either 1up or LCH to win, then antagonizing ND for about a week, they've done very little in my eyes to promote support from ND. After all, ND is still in a position to win, but LCH have already made the political statement that they'd rather let 1up win than see ND over them.

I can see why LCH have jumped at the chance to point out very legitimately that 1up is winning, but as far as I can see they've already burned their bridges with ND. Of course, I'm not ND HC, for all I know they may prefer to finish third to LCH's first rather than second to 1up's first.

ND indeed still is in a position to win, which is the most relevant part. Even if they don't ally LCH, they can atleast prevent hitting eachother while both targetting 1up (hypothetical scenario ofcourse). LCH is still in a reasonable position to win this round aswell, it'd depend on who gets the most out of the attacks.

Otherwise ND could just leave LCH be, and team up with somebody else. That's really not a point I'm that fuzzed about.

What I wonder is; will the NAP between 1up and ND, and 1up and other alliances, end now that they have taken the number one spot?

[lokken]

Originally Posted by hook

ND indeed still is in a position to win, which is the most relevant part. Even if they don't ally LCH, they can atleast prevent hitting eachother while both targetting 1up (hypothetical scenario ofcourse). LCH is still in a reasonable position to win this round aswell, it'd depend on who gets the most out of the attacks.

Otherwise ND could just leave LCH be, and team up with somebody else. That's really not a point I'm that fuzzed about.

What I wonder is; will the NAP between 1up and ND, and 1up and other alliances, end now that they have taken the number one spot?

Secret of comedy: timing. At the moment only 1up or LCH could be laughing, perhaps.

[Banned]

Originally Posted by hook

Otherwise ND could just leave LCH be, and team up with somebody else. That's really not a point I'm that fuzzed about.

Teaming up with anyone but LCH would be suicidal; ND can't win when both LCH and 1up are hitting them.

But teaming up with LCH would be very close to resigning to a third place, because at this point there are simply more ND that the big 1up planets can hit.

Or perhaps it'd just end up like Vision last round.

[hook]

Originally Posted by Banned

Teaming up with anyone but LCH would be suicidal; ND can't win when both LCH and 1up are hitting them.

But teaming up with LCH would be very close to resigning to a third place, because at this point there are simply more ND that the big 1up planets can hit.

Or perhaps it'd just end up like Vision last round.

Given LCH have some brains when it comes to politics they'll surely try to stop 1up from ending on the first place instead of making sure ND doesn't?

Maybe my bad of using assumptions such as the availability of common sense in my scenario's

[lokken]

perhaps (from what i can devise from Banned) LCH's policy actually doesn't benefit ND in any way whatsoever, so ND has no reason to follow it, so infact it's now in the kingmaker role.

In which case, LCH just shot themselves in the foot, and gave up a defendable 40M lead for nothing.

P.S. Banned - reply to my MAIL! you fagot.

[Gio2k]

Considering all the saved resources LCH have by now, this is going to be fun!!!!!
Nice trick though, "Let 1up overtake #1 while we save resources, then all other alliances will stop hitting us, and start hitting them"
Well, guess what, we don't care
I will hit 1ups puppets from now on. You know who you are.

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by hook

Given LCH have some brains when it comes to politics

soo.....many..........jokes.....brain..................................hurting

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by Gio2k

Considering all the saved resources LCH have by now, this is going to be fun!!!!!
Nice trick though, "Let 1up overtake #1 while we save resources, then all other alliances will stop hitting us, and start hitting them"
Well, guess what, we don't care
I will hit 1ups puppets from now on. You know who you are.

Please step away from the crack pipe.

[Hicks]

Originally Posted by Banned

One has to ask what motivation ND would have to ally LCH when LCH have purposefully let 1up pass them by not targetting 1up for the last few days.

Surprised it took people so long to post that, LCH have been targeting ND to make sure the round is just between them and 1up, they knew once 1up got to first place the entire universe would attack them leaving LCH with a free run to number one.

[The_Fish]

As said a lot in this thread, ND is getting a LOT of LCH incs. Personally, I would rather see 1up win than LCH.

Had LCH been hitting 1up instead of ND, I would have been quite happy to see us nap/ally them to stop them winning. As it is, I hope they finish 3rd at best. Of course, I am not HC, so none of this is ND's view, but personally, I think LCH and HR would be good allies, they're both politically inept.

ND = Kingmakers... so LCH hit us. GG LCh.

[Remy]

Hmmm

Funny how everyone '' knows'' what LCH does or decides. Some of you told us things about us in this forum of high quality (ahum) we didnt even know !

LCH HC will not go whining/boasting here about past/current/future politics or situation. We play PA and sometimes you win some and sometimes you lose some.

I would like to stress one point tho: any1 telling here that lch ''does'' this or ''does'' that and is not actually HC of LCH, can as wel stop, unless you add the remark that this is just speculative or your view. I see too much socalled 'facts'' running around.

[The_Fish]

Originally Posted by Remy

I would like to stress one point tho: any1 telling here that lch ''does'' this or ''does'' that and is not actually HC of LCH, can as wel stop, unless you add the remark that this is just speculative or your view. I see too much socalled 'facts'' running around.

however, it IS fact that you have been targetting ND and not 1up. You don't need to be LCH HC to see that. My gal status screen is enough ;/

[LocknLoad]

Originally Posted by The_Fish

however, it IS fact that you have been targetting ND and not 1up. You don't need to be LCH HC to see that. My gal status screen is enough ;/

Hmm do you see 1up gal screens too? I suspect they see just as much LCH hitting them too. Just they are much more adept to defence then you are.

[The_Fish]

Originally Posted by LocknLoad

Hmm do you see 1up gal screens too? I suspect they see just as much LCH hitting them too. Just they are much more adept to defence then you are.

HEH.

No, seriously, everyone with a clue knows that LCH have been targetting ND more than 1up lately, ND and 1up will both agree.

ND's strength for many rounds has been how well we defend.

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by LocknLoad

Hmm do you see 1up gal screens too? I suspect they see just as much LCH hitting them too. Just they are much more adept to defence then you are.

Ho, he's right. 1up have the odd bit of LCH incoming but nothing to can be described as being targetted. I can't speak for ND's incoming but I know ours is mainly HR/Vsn/VGN/Mistu, albeit it not in particularly significnt quantities from one direction.

[Gate]

I agree with Fish and mazzelaar, ND have, for 3 seperate days this week, received more incoming fleets than we have members. Compared with 1up's incs, we've received, literally,over 3/4s of LCH's firepower.

If 1up win, it's partly thanks to LCH; they're as much 1up's puppets as ND are.

[lokken]

Originally Posted by Remy

Hmmm

Funny how everyone '' knows'' what LCH does or decides. Some of you told us things about us in this forum of high quality (ahum) we didnt even know !

LCH HC will not go whining/boasting here about past/current/future politics or situation. We play PA and sometimes you win some and sometimes you lose some.

I would like to stress one point tho: any1 telling here that lch ''does'' this or ''does'' that and is not actually HC of LCH, can as wel stop, unless you add the remark that this is just speculative or your view. I see too much socalled 'facts'' running around.

People can infer from your conduct though, and like the continuing discussion of the 1up/ND situation on these forums I'm more than happy to let them do that either way, as that's what AD is about. Most people to be fair, have expressed their feelings on the issue as how they perceive things as to how they know them to be.

Although i agree with the essence of your post: people who claim to 'have a clue' usually don't.

[Dreadnought FTW]

If everything is about numbers wouldnt India pwn Pakistan?

Yes.

But its not

Both have secret weapons

[Stifler]

Originally Posted by Dreadnought FTW

If everything is about numbers wouldnt India pwn Pakistan?

Yes.

But its not

Both have secret weapons

2nd forum account closed?

[BoredOfThis]

Originally Posted by Stifler

2nd forum account closed?

No, but i wont be using it anymore, just now to pwn you in this thread.

Dreadnought FTW is my new one forever

[SilverSmoke]

You see, that's why my choice was easy to make.

[decoy]

Originally Posted by Remy

Some of you told us things about us in this forum [..] we didnt even know !

So you're saying that you don't know what you're doing? We knew that. Pleasure to be of assistance ;-)

[TheRat]

Then Id hereby like to decalre our victory. With LCH needing aproxomately 21k score per player to catch up, theres really no way they can manage that in the 21 days remaining of the round. Its been fun, good luck next round.

-TheRat

[CrazyConrad]

Originally Posted by TheRat

Then Id hereby like to decalre our victory. With LCH needing aproxomately 21k score per player to catch up, theres really no way they can manage that in the 21 days remaining of the round. Its been fun, good luck next round.

-TheRat

Congrats :/

[Remy]

Originally Posted by The_Fish

however, it IS fact that you have been targetting ND and not 1up. You don't need to be LCH HC to see that. My gal status screen is enough ;/

We have been targetting both 1up and ND, and at few times more ND then 1up. We also targetted other alliances. ND targetted us also a lot, even before we dedicated started targeting ND (indeed, you only had to look at LCH gal statuses to see ND waves).

In general, any1 whining about being targetted doesnt understand the game type: war. Shit happens. We didnt whine about ND targeting us, why shud you whine when we repay you?

Although I am very curious about some things this round, I choose not to ask about them in public, because then someone wud probably accuse me of whining, which I try to prevent. Maybe I will ask later, in PM :-)

[jerome]

LCH FTW!:((((((((((((((

[Lord_Thunderball]

Why can't ND become #1. If they really want to.. Hit 1up with all now. Make sure 1up gets below ND. Then hit LCH with all others. And ND is #1. Both a wait, that's impossible just like:

A 30 Mil gap is to big to overcome......

And ofcource, some sorta nap/alliance/wing needs to be cut off....

But saying it isn't possible, is saying 1up can't win with 67 ppl.

[Hicks]

That wouldn't work, for someone who's been around a long time you aren't very good at this Thunder The round is between three alliances 1up, ND and LCH, everyone is going to attack 1up since LCH has lured them into it by refusing to check their growth, in effect everyone else will do LCH’s dirty work, this in my opinion will put 1up out of the picture, there’s no way 67 members good as they are can pin back a thousand odd fleet slots, this is pretty good political play from LCH. This leaves the round between ND and LCH. ND have two choices, they can continue hitting LCH and hope that when everyone hits 1up that 1up decide to smash LCH to pieces without really concentrating on anyone else, this would leave ND free to grab the number one spot as the round ends and this leaves 1up with the role of king maker (Probably second place and top averages) which was what they originally wanted. The second choice is that ND attack 1up with everyone else, 1up attack everyone back with equal venom rather than just hit LCH. 1up will again be overrun, by the time the 1up witch hunt is over most alliances will be well past their peak (Most already are) and unable to launch another campaign or more likely the round will end.

To be honest the only way I see the round going is to LCH as I predicted for a while, even if the first scenario played out I think 20 million points is a lot for ND to make up especially when LCH will be pulling in large amounts of asteroids from 1up with reduced incoming themselves. Though I would like to see ND do it, after 5 years trying you guys deserve it

[Gate]

Originally Posted by Lord_Thunderball

Why can't ND become #1. If they really want to.. Hit 1up with all now. Make sure 1up gets below ND. Then hit LCH with all others. And ND is #1. Both a wait, that's impossible just like:

A 30 Mil gap is to big to overcome......

And ofcource, some sorta nap/alliance/wing needs to be cut off....

But saying it isn't possible, is saying 1up can't win with 67 ppl.

Hicks is right. I don't see us getting enough support; LCH have plenty of friends and have, politically, played well

[G.K Zhukov]

Shocker.

LCH HC has no control over their firepower.
And they cant read whos getting roided on Sandmans.

Great, I bet all the members of LCH feel so comfy now

[G.K Zhukov]

Originally Posted by Gate

Hicks is right. I don't see us getting enough support; LCH have plenty of friends and have, politically, played well

Thats dependent on them actually breaking 1up. If not, they have just played high and lost.

[jerome]

1up cannot win with 67 members, you are all making ludicrous assumptions & deductions by looking at mere numbers in the universe screen ! LCH are quite really in the driving seat, holding themselves for a quick final charge towards the end & to capture all glory !

etc.

[Villeh]

Originally Posted by Hicks

ND have two choices, they can continue hitting LCH and hope that when everyone hits 1up that 1up decide to smash LCH to pieces without really concentrating on anyone else, this would leave ND free to grab the number one spot as the round ends and this leaves 1up with the role of king maker (Probably second place and top averages) which was what they originally wanted. The second choice is that ND attack 1up with everyone else, 1up attack everyone back with equal venom rather than just hit LCH.

That 2nd option will never happen, ND will never turn on 1up, without 1up they can't possibly win! And I doubt they have the balls, they will have plenty reasons/excuses not too, so naaaah, ND will be the 1up puppets for the remainding of this round, anyone saying otherwise, I look forward to be proved wrong...

Originally Posted by _ryzekiel_

1up cannot win with 67 members, you are all making ludicrous assumptions & deductions by looking at mere numbers in the universe screen ! LCH are quite really in the driving seat, holding themselves for a quick final charge towards the end & to capture all glory !

Do you even read what you write?
1up can easily, well not easily, but they can surely win this round... But they might be 'afraid' to try, and rather go the obvious and 'easy' route of making ND the victors, and ofc pat themselves on the back for being Kingmakers and #1 on average score like they initially wanted to...
LCH atm is in the driving seat, of the car that just got rearended...



LCH's 20 mill score lead over ND is not really much to talk about...
4 days ago LCH had a 30+ mill lead over 1up... Suddenly 1up is in the lead by score, and have a roid lead by 30.000 roids...

1up, LCH & ND all stand a chance to win still, though atm I would say 1up and ND stand strongest for the claim of both top spots as they are the strongest block/ally/whatever cooperative term you like to use!