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16 Mar 2004, 20:51
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@ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
seriously. When people write on paper, do they really save any time by putting a circly thing around their a instead of putting a t after it? And when you are typing, how much time do you save by holding down shift before pressing 2 versus typing 'a' and then 't'?
The real point of this thread is that I'm now opening threads in a new window. That's not cool
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16 Mar 2004, 20:55
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Originally Posted by acropolis
The real point of this thread is that I'm now opening threads in a new window. That's not cool
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That happened to me earlier. I was majorly freaked out :eek:.
I closed the windows, opened a new one, and it was fine .
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16 Mar 2004, 20:58
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
This thread is the most useless thread ever. @ is short hand for about. Not at.
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16 Mar 2004, 20:58
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
I think it happens when you open a link that had as target a certain named frame in a new window, and then browse to pirate and start opening threads. That's what I understood of it when it happened to me.
But @ is indeed a stupid thing to use in common day writing/typing.
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16 Mar 2004, 20:58
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Originally Posted by JC
That happened to me earlier. I was majorly freaker out :eek:.
I closed the windows, opened a new one, and it was fine .
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I thought it was just me....
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16 Mar 2004, 20:59
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
I kept pounding my shift key. I thought it was stuck.
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16 Mar 2004, 21:01
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Originally Posted by Intrepid00
@ is short hand for about. Not at.
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WTF?*
*short hand for what the ****?
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16 Mar 2004, 21:14
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stew
I thought it was just me....
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16 Mar 2004, 21:19
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Originally Posted by acropolis
much time do you save by holding down shift before pressing 2 versus typing 'a' and then 't'?
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stupid yank keyboards
its shift + '
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16 Mar 2004, 21:28
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Originally Posted by Intrepid00
This thread is the most useless thread ever. @ is short hand for about. Not at.
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if you're right then apparently this thread wasn't useless, now was it?
i wasn't actually sure about that, and i tried to google @ but i was unable to do so.
i reopened the forums too and now it works. figured as much, once i noticed that the new windows that open didn't open new windows when i clicked on threads in them.
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16 Mar 2004, 21:50
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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16 Mar 2004, 22:06
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
Is this the cool place to be @?
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16 Mar 2004, 22:18
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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16 Mar 2004, 22:24
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
And in Spain, the @ sign is increasingly used among youngsters as a politically correct way of avoiding specifying gender, as in: "Hola, amig@s!"
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16 Mar 2004, 22:26
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
amigas are fun
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16 Mar 2004, 22:28
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
Quote:
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amigas are fun
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I had an amiga 500+ - it was
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16 Mar 2004, 22:47
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Explain manual Typerwriters?
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16 Mar 2004, 23:04
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
I think that page explains quite well why it was present on keyboards before email was invented.
Muppet.
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17 Mar 2004, 02:25
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
According to the site it has no clear orgin.
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17 Mar 2004, 07:20
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
@ stands for about?
zlateralus about hotmail.com
or
zlateralus at hotmail.com
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17 Mar 2004, 10:32
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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@ stands for about?
zlateralus about hotmail.com
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zlateralus at hotmail.com
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He was wrong, but that doesn't mean your argument is valid.
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17 Mar 2004, 10:51
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Originally Posted by acropolis
And when you are typing, how much time do you save by holding down shift before pressing 2 versus typing 'a' and then 't'?
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Quite a lot over the course of millions of key presses.
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17 Mar 2004, 13:30
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
I hate all shorthand with a passion, so I agree.
I can type a regular, well punctuated, spelling-endowed sentence faster than some ass with their "we dnt uz vowls much". In fact, I have to THINK about what I'm doing to write that crap.
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17 Mar 2004, 13:33
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Originally Posted by Tomkat
I hate all shorthand with a passion, so I agree.
I can type a regular, well punctuated, spelling-endowed sentence faster than some ass with their "we dnt uz vowls much". In fact, I have to THINK about what I'm doing to write that crap.
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That's more an argument about you not being very good at something you're not very good at.
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17 Mar 2004, 16:18
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
I have to try very hard to even make any spelling mistakes in my typing... in Dutch that is... When typing English I just drivel a bit and hope it comes across.
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17 Mar 2004, 16:21
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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That's more an argument about you not being very good at something you're not very good at.
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YOU'RE not very good at being ... good!
Aw crap.
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17 Mar 2004, 16:25
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
Quite a lot over the course of millions of key presses.
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noting that t&a are two of the more accesible keys on the keyboard and shift and 2 are both out of the way, I'd hazard it takes more time for an @ then an 'at'.
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17 Mar 2004, 22:19
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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He was wrong, but that doesnt make your arguement valid
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Well, despite the fact that it was empirical evidence... IT WASNT AN ARGUEMENT, IT WAS AN OBSERVATION, dumbo.
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17 Mar 2004, 22:22
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Well, despite the fact that it was empirical evidence... IT WASNT AN ARGUEMENT, IT WAS AN OBSERVATION, dumbo.
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Can I keep him mommy? Can I? Can I? Can I?
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depends on how much your willing to pay. Down boy.
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17 Mar 2004, 22:51
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
@ is called "at" in English. And Arabic. But some languages give it a different name.
http://home.bluemarble.net/~langmin/...ures/@name.htm
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17 Mar 2004, 22:53
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
I'm not seeing any references to it meaning "about" mr Intrepmuppetid00
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17 Mar 2004, 23:50
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
the etymology is unclear therefore the definition is too!
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18 Mar 2004, 03:54
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
Dude. Bread. Exactly.
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18 Mar 2004, 04:00
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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Quite a lot over the course of millions of key presses.
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Yeah. Also, consider spaces: "a at b" == "a@b", reducing keypresses by a factor of 4.
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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noting that t&a are two of the more accesible keys on the keyboard and shift and 2 are both out of the way, I'd hazard it takes more time for an @ then an 'at'.
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only on your stupid american keyboards, here the @ is above and just to the left of the right shift key, making it FAR easier to use than 'a t' or 'shift 2'
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
It looks quite cool in a big line like that.
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
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I think that page explains quite well why it was present on keyboards before email was invented.
Muppet.
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No it doesn't. It mentions it vaguely, then jumps of into a few historical examples from other cultures.
Incidentally, a single-point source based on an interview with a single-point source is not the best evidence of anything.
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19 Mar 2004, 12:36
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
It (and the subsequent posted link) are infinitely more evidence then he gave to support his "about" theory (that would be nothing...).
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19 Mar 2004, 12:55
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Re: @ Has To Be The Most Useless Shorthand Ever
Evidence about what? I don't see them disproving the "about" theory per se - they simply provide evidence for a different stance.
I agree this @=about thing is unevidenced, but that doesn't mean you can throw anything at him and it automatically "wins", and it certainly doesn't put you in such a tenable position that you can call him "muppet". Particularly since you were wrong on that point.
Y'know, "I'm just saying."
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