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Unread 22 Jun 2014, 15:28   #251
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Re: R57 gossip thread

I dont see why FL/BF should stop, but the rest?
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Re: R57 gossip thread

Butcher told me!

Respect to Ult members for not giving up, solid defensive performance. None of the other alliances would still be playing, IMO.
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Re: R57 gossip thread

i enjoyed reading most of this thread

though it was a close contest between kaiba
i shall declare Forest as the winner

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Respect to Ult members for not giving up, solid defensive performance. None of the other alliances would still be playing, IMO.
They are perhaps still the favorite to win imho.
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Re: R57 gossip thread

Maybe; but they clearly need at least a couple of other alliances to switch sides if they are to win.
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Maybe; but they clearly need at least a couple of other alliances to switch sides if they are to win.
Well they will, ult soon dry.
They could just ground and stay on top with their roid lead
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It wouldnt be the first time Ultores recovered from some serious bashing. Well played so far.
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Word on the streets is Faceless will be targeted tonight, sounds logical after seeing ult has half of the avg faceless has. Question is what alliances are involved?
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Word on the streets is Faceless will be targeted tonight, sounds logical after seeing ult has half of the avg faceless has. Question is what alliances are involved?
Heard Spore is the lead blockers AGAIN.
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It wouldnt be the first time Ultores recovered from some serious bashing. Well played so far.
Ultores took a serious beating but I hear its time for others to be tested!
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Dont even try deny it
nothing to deny, as soon as you post on forums, everyone knows the truth.

they just go with the opposite of what you say
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nothing to deny, as soon as you post on forums, everyone knows the truth.

they just go with the opposite of what you say
HEROES are always the block leaders.

It's pretty shocking if yet again alliances fail to finish the job on ultores.

People are so fickle....
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Word on the streets is Faceless will be targeted tonight, sounds logical after seeing ult has half of the avg faceless has. Question is what alliances are involved?
Are you seriously asking what alliances are involved?!
There are exactly 8 full tag alliances, 4 of these are napped to Faceless so that only leaves 3 full tag alliances and 2 half-tag alliances that could hit them if they really wanted... (Ult/Spore/HR/Vikings/HEROES)..

If naps remain as they are now then I expect Faceless to win without a problem..
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Re: R57 gossip thread

nap stands for non aggression pact, so it does not mean an alliance. If those who are napped with Faceless all stand back and leave it as Ult+whoever they can gather against Faceless then there is no certainty that Faceless will win. Certainly p3n's nap is like this - essentially a formal avoidance pact rather than either will help the other with anything.
The problem is that NAPs more often really mean alliance in this game.
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nap stands for non aggression pact, so it does not mean an alliance. If those who are napped with Faceless all stand back and leave it as Ult+whoever they can gather against Faceless then there is no certainty that Faceless will win. Certainly p3n's nap is like this - essentially a formal avoidance pact rather than either will help the other with anything.
The problem is that NAPs more often really mean alliance in this game.
When half the univers got "NAPs" with each other, it effectively means that its a block sometimes, even though they arnt actively coordinating attacks together.
The univers is too small, and the targets are too few, even two of the top alliances having agreed to not attacking each other will have huge effect on the chances for all the rest of the allies
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Re: R57 gossip thread

I can see that you have a point early in the round when everyone is gal raiding but now when everyone is ptargeting or hitting gals that are heavy in a particular alliance I cant see it making too much difference. It possibly means a few more random incs for that alliance without the nap but it is unlikely to be enough to tip any balances when compared to whole alliances ptargeting each other.
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Re: R57 gossip thread

I agree with Bitcher here.

Faceless for example is ingame napped with:

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CT is napped with BF, p3ng, faceless. blackflag is napped to almost the same. This means that even tho they are not allied every alliance not ingame napped to all these players consisting of the majority of active players in the universe will have alot more incs.

That faceless is able to sit on all these naps atm just comes to show we need a change in leadership in different allies.. Ult/App doesnt give a damn about foes, everyone else is scared shtless about incs
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Re: R57 gossip thread

A change in leadership is not going to change how alliances operate, naps, avoiding forts, unofficial agreements and full blown alliances are how PA has been played as long as I have played the game. This round does not seem to me to be much different in this regard. That the top alliance now has a load of naps is mostly a product of them having until recently not been the top alliance so wishing pacts to help them take out number 1. The question now is if they begin to run away with it as Ult did whether those naps will come apart.
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Ultores were never "running away" with it
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Re: R57 gossip thread

All a question of definitions - but perhaps I should have said 'threatening' to run away with it! You may not have been immensely ahead but you were gaining value and roids much faster than the other alliances.

p.s. do you have to contest everything about your alliance even when its a complement?
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it's easy to gain roids and value when you go to war with CT
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just you know fine what happens when you do, don't act surprised when we get friends and fight back
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just you know fine what happens when you do, don't act surprised when we get friends and fight back
When Ult hit CT, CT had given ult 300+ incoming fleets like when we spoke in pm, after the P-Target from Ult.. CT still had given Ult more incoming then Ult gave CT.
Rather then you getting friends to fight back, it is you getting friends cause you couldnt finish something you started.
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when ult hit ct, ct had given ult 300+ incoming fleets like when we spoke in pm, after the p-target from ult.. Ct still had given ult more incoming then ult gave ct.
Rather then you getting friends to fight back, it is you getting friends cause you couldnt finish something you started.
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That faceless is able to sit on all these naps atm just comes to show we need a change in leadership in different allies.. Ult/App doesnt give a damn about foes, everyone else is scared shtless about incs
Hi, I was wondering if in light of faceless losing 4% of their roids whilst ultores increased theirs by 21% after one night of hitting them you would like to in any way amend your post.
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Re: R57 gossip thread

im not denying that we gave you a good amount of incs. we did! but we were gal raiding, ultores took it to the next level with ptargeting.

May i also point out ultores was #1 with significantly higher value than us and we were #5!
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im not denying that we gave you a good amount of incs. we did! but we were gal raiding, ultores took it to the next level with ptargeting.

May i also point out ultores was #1 with significantly higher value than us and we were #5!
So consistently hitting our forts is okay, but us ptargetting you guys in return is not?
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So consistently hitting our forts is okay, but us ptargetting you guys in return is not?
I think he is saying hitting #1 is okey, as that would be going after roids and XP, Ult hitting #5 tells me they dont care about hitting their friends in BF and FL
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Hi, I was wondering if in light of faceless losing 4% of their roids whilst ultores increased theirs by 21% after one night of hitting them you would like to in any way amend your post.
Ult bonused and initiated? If they are able to replicate that again tonight I would be very impressed.
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I think he is saying hitting #1 is okey, as that would be going after roids and XP, Ult hitting #5 tells me they dont care about hitting their friends in BF and FL
They hit us, we hit them back. Just because they are 5th doesn't mean we'll give them a free pass when they hit us
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Ult bonused and initiated? If they are able to replicate that again tonight I would be very impressed.
Oh ok. Sounds like an awfully confident move when you're going up against an alliance supposedly in such a strong position that the entire community needs to rethink who it allows to helm the alliances within it because of allowing themselves to nap them.
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Oh ok. Sounds like an awfully confident move when you're going up against an alliance supposedly in such a strong position that the entire community needs to rethink who it allows to helm the alliances within it because of allowing themselves to nap them.
It comes down to the amount of incs on defence page, nothing else. As already stated earlier, 4 ful tags with 3 times the value combined, is in any case impossible to handle. The fact that it's now 1 grounded tag, doing sporadic retals, kinda changes the game plan.

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They hit us, we hit them back. Just because they are 5th doesn't mean we'll give them a free pass when they hit us
Nobody expected you to give them any free pass.
But dont sound to suprised that CT jumped on the bandwagon to get back at Ult once again.
I guess being a top alliance, you dont have to hit the lower and mid tier alliances.
Not that i think CT is a midtier alliance, but looking at the rankings this round would make me belive they cant win it atm.
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Nobody expected you to give them any free pass.
But dont sound to suprised that CT jumped on the bandwagon to get back at Ult once again.
I guess being a top alliance, you dont have to hit the lower and mid tier alliances.
Not that i think CT is a midtier alliance, but looking at the rankings this round would make me belive they cant win it atm.
To get back at us?

Even after we hit them for one night, they had still sent around 300 fleets on us vs the 150 or so we had put on them, if anything we got back at them, which they couldn't handle.
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To get back at us?

Even after we hit them for one night, they had still sent around 300 fleets on us vs the 150 or so we had put on them, if anything we got back at them, which they couldn't handle.
Its obvious that the top allie would be looking for bigger targets. What would Ult gain from attacking CT, but revenge?
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Its obvious that the top allie would be looking for bigger targets. What would Ult gain from attacking CT, but revenge?
Like i said, if people hit us, we'll hit back. Doesn't matter who it is and what rank they are
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Like i said, if people hit us, we'll hit back. Doesn't matter who it is and what rank they are
Well guess thats what was diffrent from FAnG and Ultores in their prime, to allies today.
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Well guess thats what was diffrent from FAnG and Ultores in their prime, to allies today.
They fought for #1, not personal vendettas
Oh we always play for #1, we just don't ignore when someone hits us, thinking they can get away with it
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Well guess thats what was diffrent from FAnG and Ultores in their prime, to allies today.
They fought for #1, not personal vendettas
FAnG are notorious for bottom feeding and napping the universe.
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FAnG are notorious for bottom feeding and napping the universe.
Not the FAnG i was apart of. Maybe you have been mistaking FAnG for vikings?
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Not the FAnG i was apart of. Maybe you have been mistaking FAnG for vikings?
You keep portraying FAnG as this moral powerhouse alliance, but FAnG only had one strong round of recent, and that was the round they won and beat Ultores.

Since then, and prior to, they gained value/roids by bottom feeding and napping.

So please stop being such a hypocrite and promoting FAnG as this ethical alliance.
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You keep portraying FAnG as this moral powerhouse alliance, but FAnG only had one strong round of recent, and that was the round they won and beat Ultores.

Since then, and prior to, they gained value/roids by bottom feeding and napping.

So please stop being such a hypocrite and promoting FAnG as this ethical alliance.
Ultores was so strong, not attacking them and Apprime would mean they would outgrow the rest.
And due to the need to fighting Ult, we wouldnt attract more enemies by bottom feeding.
So yes, that was how it worked.
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