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Unread 13 Feb 2004, 01:28   #1
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Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 source code leaked
http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?i...&category=main

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Neowin has learned of shocking and potentially devastating news. It would appear that two packages are circulating on the internet, one being the source code to Windows 2000, and the other being the source code to Windows NT. At this time, it is hard to establish whether or not full code has leaked, and this will undoubtedly remain the situation until an attempt is made to compile them. Microsoft are currently unavailable for comment surrounding this leak so we have no official response from them at the time of writing.

This leak is a shock not only to Neowin, but to the wider IT industry. The ramifications of this leak are far reaching and devastating. This reporter does not wish to be sensationalist, but the number of industries and critical systems that are based around these technologies that could be damaged by new exploits found in this source code is something that doesn't bare thinking about.

We ask that for the wider benefit of the IT community that members and readers support Microsoft by forwarding anything they know about the leak to the Microsoft's Anti-Piracy department.

Please do not post any links/screenshots/hints or anything to do with the source code outbreak. Discussion is allowed but we will not condone people spreading this source code.
http://slashdot.org/articles/04/02/1...id=109&tid=187
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...hreadid=915451

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14126

This could start getting a little crazy, just think of all those cracker groups going mental with this source code.
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Unread 13 Feb 2004, 01:39   #2
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Re: Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 source code leaked
its already been put up as a torrent seemingly...
should prove interesting to see how many new worms etc are made....
wonder who leaked it..
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Counsel me, my Belgy. This is bad, is it not?
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Unread 13 Feb 2004, 01:40   #4
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Re: Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 source code leaked
that bbc news link is 4 years old.
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that bbc news link is 4 years old.
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Unread 13 Feb 2004, 01:47   #6
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Counsel me, my Belgy. This is bad, is it not?
Well, if it's recent, full source code, then the virus writers who come up with such joys as Klez, myDoom etc are going to have a field day.
It's impossible to say what the ramifications might be. But if the internet breaks in the next few weeks....you'll know why.

And that bbc news link...I read the post I got it from completely wrongly, my bad.
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i shall turn my pc off and begin purchasing rice. bread and bottled water pronto then...

the apocalypse is here.
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i shall turn my pc off and begin purchasing rice. bread and bottled water pronto then...

the apocalypse is here.
Aren't you designated to be essential personnel, and thus have access to The PA Bunker in such an eventuality as this?
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the bunker is full of beer and pretzels. i still need to buy water and bread... i may nip to spar and purchase some oranges too to keep my vitamin C levels up.
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the bunker is full of beer and pretzels.
I didn't think Zeus worked for PA anymore.

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i still need to buy water and bread....
I don't think you'll be able to pop off to Sainsbury's and buy some sparkling bottled water when the world is a bleak wasteland and the dead of the world form mountains, somehow.
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Re: Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 source code leaked
Could this be by chance unliscenned circulation of portions of source code that MS aggreed to release per their Anti-Trust suit? Maybe even portions that MS has released to various goverment orginzations to analaze to make them feel warm and fuzzy that the OS is safe.
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Well, if it's recent, full source code
Considering the Windows source code is around 40Gb in size, it's not 'full' by a long shot.
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the bunker is full of beer and pretzels.
Didn't Jolt convert the PA bunker to a storage vault for their data mining operations?
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Considering the Windows source code is around 40Gb in size, it's not 'full' by a long shot.
Heh, yeah. What I meant by 'full', was if it has complete bit's of sub-systems in it or not. Certainly from what I've been reading there's a lot of IE, Explorer and some other bits and bobs in there.

(it was late last night when I posted )
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Stupid question - how can it be 40gb but fit on Cd? Yes I kno I'm dumb...
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Stupid question - how can it be 40gb but fit on Cd? Yes I kno I'm dumb...
That's not the source code.
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Re: Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 source code leaked
It's only 15% of the source code they claim totallying 603 mb in size.

That is with regards to windows 2000

They've made no statement that any of the NT 4 code is out there, possibly because more businesses use that O/S and they don't need to discourage them onto linux just yet.
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Tech Support at work are getting me a copy of this as we speak/type.

That is if the dosile fk's who work on Tech Support can get the right thing.
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i shall turn my pc off and begin purchasing rice. bread and bottled water pronto then...

the apocalypse is here.
dont buy bread. In 4 days they grow this fungi colonies which make bread look like a swamp, which is what I had for dinner yesterday
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Re: Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 source code leaked
i just want to stare at the source code and say "hehe looky what ive got" ...

i wounld know what to do with it :-/
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the linux source code was leaked years ago

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Re: Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 source code leaked
gimme gimme gimme!!!!!!!! out of interest, what kind of code is it likely to be? C++? or some completly custom jobbie?
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Didn't Jolt convert the PA bunker to a storage vault for their data mining operations?
No, they extended it to fit Karm in though

Also i'm rather impressed by the fact that apparently the win2k source (and presumably the NT4 too) is littered with swearing.
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Re: Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 source code leaked
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3485545.stm

The last line is absolutely ****ing hilarious
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The last line is absolutely ****ing hilarious
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What is source code?

It is the raw computer language written by programmers as they put together an application. When a program is compiled to become a working program this code is scrambled and becomes unreadable.
in microsoft's case, unreadable by even the computer it is supposed to be running on.
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Re: Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 source code leaked
Sensationalism ahoy!

At worse people find vulnerablilities and holes then MS patches them up and becomes a better OS for it.
I don't see why this is any different to say Linux.
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Re: Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 source code leaked
It's different because they didn't mean to do it. If this is a good thing then MS could have released the source yonks ago.
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Re: Windows NT4 and Windows 2000 source code leaked
Depends on the perspective. You're right they didn't mean to do it but it's out there now.

It's bad for MS mostly in terms of public image and a very minimal loss of profit. They didn't release the full source code publicly because there are security implications involved and it would cut into their licensing business that already allows certain organisations to view parts of the source code.

However, it is not the full source and I doubt there's anything major in what did slip out. Now that it is out if there are any oversights or bugs that their internal devs didn't pickup then at least they can start patching them up once the vulnerabilites are exposed.
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