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Unread 28 Dec 2003, 00:18   #1
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Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

Knee-(t)chur?
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

Neat Chee?
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

I just say "Neesh" in my head when I read it because I never talk about him anyway
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

It's Neet-S-Sha
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

neet-s-sha

a as in play.
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

"pronunciation"
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

'ie' = long 'e'
'sch' = 'sh'
'e' = 'a'

PS why the hell did you brits change the pronunciation of every single vowel there is?
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Unread 28 Dec 2003, 12:03   #11
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

"you brits"?

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Unread 28 Dec 2003, 12:45   #12
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

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'ie' = long 'e'
'sch' = 'sh'
'e' = 'a'

PS why the hell did you brits change the pronunciation of every single vowel there is?
The germanic sounds aren't that similar to Latin pronunciation duder
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

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The germanic sounds aren't that similar to Latin pronunciation duder
we didnt do this though.
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

I say "Neat-st-cha"
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we didnt do this though.
Lol languages change! They must be stupid!
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

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The germanic sounds aren't that similar to Latin pronunciation duder
Dutch ones are. The only vowel which has changed is the u.
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Dutch ones are. The only vowel which has changed is the u.
You just won the prize for the single most useless post on the entire internet. Congratulations leshy, I always knew you'd achieve something eventually.
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Dutch ones are. The only vowel which has changed is the u.
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You just won the prize for the single most useless post on the entire internet. Congratulations leshy, I always knew you'd achieve something eventually.
Considering Dutch is afaik one of the Germanic languages, it was my intention to counteract MrL_JaKiri's point. I don't see how any such occasion can be useless

Oh, and MrL_JaKiri, at least the Germanic languages don't have to butcher Latin names either. Homer, Vergil, Ovid, wtf?!
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Considering Dutch is afaik one of the Germanic languages, it was my intention to counteract MrL_JaKiri's point. I don't see how any such occasion can be useless

Oh, and MrL_JaKiri, at least the Germanic languages don't have to butcher Latin names either. Homer, Vergil, Ovid, wtf?!
I swear to god I actually read this post as "blah, blah, blah, blah, jonnybgood is great, blah, blah, blah, blah".
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

Homer was greek
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

english is also a germanic language, so i dont see what all this has to do with latin.
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english is also a germanic language, so i dont see what all this has to do with latin.
As latin is the root language, you can't criticise english for changing them when your own language did the same.
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As latin is the root language, you can't criticise english for changing them when your own language did the same.
Since when is Latin the root language?
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Since when is Latin the root language?
About 400AD?
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As latin is the root language, you can't criticise english for changing them when your own language did the same.
i never took latin in school, but as far as i know you can just read it the way it is (same pronounciation as in german) and everything would be correct.
and latin isnt the root language for neither english nor german, only for french, italian and the other laguanges in southern europe.
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

i'm still convinced there's a line of language linking germany, the netherlands and yorkshire.
Think about it!


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Homer was greek :confused:
Yes, and 'Homerus' is his name in Latin, otherwise I would have said his name in Greek, if these forums had a Greek font installed :(
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

nie ... like the start of the russian for "no" but more "e"ey (ie nyee instead of nyeh)

tzsche ... tch (very scottish sounding)

nyee - tch
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i thought that latin was the root language for most western european languages?
we have certainly stolen enough from it even if it isnt
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latin plus a little bit of greek plus native tongues methought?
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i thought that latin was the root language for most western european languages?
we have certainly stolen enough from it even if it isnt
french, italian, spanish, etc are basicly latin, just used for 70 generations and changed over the time.
english, dutch, german, etc. just got influenced by latin. they are not based on latin.
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http://german.about.com/library/graphics/gertree01.gif

From what I've seen our words are more similar to french than german though.
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From what I've seen our words are more similar to french than german though.
Von was ich habe gesehen unsere wörter sind mehr ähnlich (similar is latin isnt it?) zu franzöisch als deutsch

(ok, doesnt make much sence, but if you translate the words directly you see how similar german and english are. ofc you have lots of french words aswell, but those saxon words are more importantfor your language)


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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

english grammar is pretty much unique in europe. its very simple compared to all other european lanugages: you already menitioned the nouns. then there are the verbs. you almost dont have any conjuctions at all (well, a few are left, like i am, you are, he she it is, etc, but for most verbs there is nothing).
other than that you have this completly fixed structure ('the man reads a book'. in german you could say 'ein buch liest der mann' aswell, but in english that would make much sence ('a book reads the man'))
you do have more and shorter words than other languages in europe.

PS no, i dont know a shit about the subject, i copied all this information from some random website so that it looks like i have an idea of what im talking about
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its very simple compared to all other european lanugages
What crap. Other languages have one thing that English is lacking...rules! English has so few hard and fast rules, so many irregular verbs, so many quirks that even English people can't get it right most of the time!
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

English is easy
English easy is
Easy is English
Easy English is
Is easy English
Is English easy

Six sentences, all made up of the same three words, all of them make reasonable sense, five out of six are statements, the other is a question.

Why on earth do foreigners have so much difficulty, pfffffffffffft....
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English has so few hard and fast rules, so many irregular verbs, so many quirks that even English people can't get it right most of the time!
A major problem is in adopting words from other languages, because borrowed words aren't going to follow your language's rules for spelling, pronunciation, etc. You end up having to change them, sometimes significantly, to keep your language "pure." (L'Academie Francais has to come up with baladeur instead of Walkman for example) Having a grammar that doesn't use many word endings makes it even easier.

The strength of English, if any, is that it's extremely flexible. You can adopt and coin new words very easily.
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The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.
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english grammar is pretty much unique in europe. its very simple compared to all other european lanugages: you already menitioned the nouns. then there are the verbs. you almost dont have any conjuctions at all (well, a few are left, like i am, you are, he she it is, etc, but for most verbs there is nothing).
other than that you have this completly fixed structure ('the man reads a book'. in german you could say 'ein buch liest der mann' aswell, but in english that would make much sence ('a book reads the man'))
you do have more and shorter words than other languages in europe.

PS no, i dont know a shit about the subject, i copied all this information from some random website so that it looks like i have an idea of what im talking about
Yeah but we got your grammer in around the 5th centry, so we had plenty of time to bastify it.

I'm talking about saying shit like "I see *it*" and not "I *it* see". Where German and English are similar. But i was told your grammer is quite strict, where as English is quite adhoc.


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"There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach about the raising of the wrist........."
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"There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach about the raising of the wrist........."
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so it's teach ya 'bout... ?
I'll go and find my bongosok...
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What crap. Other languages have one thing that English is lacking...rules! English has so few hard and fast rules, so many irregular verbs, so many quirks that even English people can't get it right most of the time!
I dare to differ.

Undoubtedly you speak several other languages as well, but I can tell you that if you can hack Finnish you are the master. It makes dutch, french and spanish look like a kindergarten language.

Not that I speak finnish. It's just that I think english is not very hard to learn at all.
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I was told by a German English is easy.

Mind she does know Chinese, Thia, French, Spanish, Italian and Portugese.
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

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I can tell you that if you can hack Finnish you are the master.
Is Finnish like Babylonian?
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

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I dare to differ.

Undoubtedly you speak several other languages as well, but I can tell you that if you can hack Finnish you are the master. It makes dutch, french and spanish look like a kindergarten language.

Not that I speak finnish. It's just that I think english is not very hard to learn at all.
actuqally i read the same on some website.
finnish is very different from the other european languages (except for hungary and estonia, they have similar languages). its a completly different language with different origin.
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Re: Correct pronounciation of 'Nietzsche'

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What crap. Other languages have one thing that English is lacking...rules! English has so few hard and fast rules, so many irregular verbs, so many quirks that even English people can't get it right most of the time!
you do have grammar rules, maybe not as many as other languages, but that doesnt matter, because you dont need all that stuff in english.

im sorry if this doesnt make any sence, but its late.
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