What? Again?

[DeadMan]

Havent payed any attention in the universe so far. Except noticing that we got yet another round of stagnation building.
It's fun though, having top 3 alliances dancing on a quiet medow with dows and butterflies flapping their wings around them.

What also is fun is the fact that ND again seem to be the target of these top 3 alliances instead of them bashing eachother. With the occational side step to pee on #4-#10 alliance.

I think NewDawn need to change their name to Lollipop Girls so that we might also run around with red, blue and yellow balloons. Auphoric state of mind is the key it seems.
Perhaps just to try and fool someone into finding another pet to kick in the ribs.

[jelle]

Originally Posted by DeadMan

Havent payed any attention in the universe so far. Except noticing that we got yet another round of stagnation building.
It's fun though, having top 3 alliances dancing on a quiet medow with dows and butterflies flapping their wings around them.

What also is fun is the fact that ND again seem to be the target of these top 3 alliances instead of them bashing eachother. With the occational side step to pee on #4-#10 alliance.

I think NewDawn need to change their name to Lollipop Girls so that we might also run around with red, blue and yellow balloons. Auphoric state of mind is the key it seems.
Perhaps just to try and fool someone into finding another pet to kick in the ribs.

Get ur head out of your ass and start taking part in the rounds instead of whining bout how horrible YOU made it.

[t3k]

How is NewDawn doing this round btw?

[Cain]

Originally Posted by DeadMan

Havent payed any attention in the universe so far. Except noticing that we got yet another round of stagnation building.
It's fun though, having top 3 alliances dancing on a quiet medow with dows and butterflies flapping their wings around them.

So you didn't pay any attention to the universe but you do know whats going on? Seriously, what kind of pathetic excuse of a player are you? Explain to me what's going on in this round please.

Why would any top 3 alliance be interested in hitting ND when they have had 0 impact on this round sofar. You my friend is what they call a retard.

[DoDDy]

Originally Posted by Cain

So you didn't pay any attention to the universe but you do know whats going on? Seriously, what kind of pathetic excuse of a player are you? Explain to me what's going on in this round please.

Why would any top 3 alliance be interested in hitting ND when they have had 0 impact on this round sofar. You my friend is what they call a retard.

Couldn't agree more Cain..... /me wonders what universe this guy is in

[VampiriA]

Originally Posted by DeadMan

What also is fun is the fact that ND again seem to be the target of these top 3 alliances instead of them bashing eachother. With the occational side step to pee on #4-#10 alliance.

so the top 3 alliances are hitting ND? lol
if you are not following the round, please do not comment. you just make your self look more retarded then you already are.

[HaNzI]

remember, ND are not used to have any incomings AT ALL.

[t3k]

Originally Posted by HaNzI

remember, ND are not used to have any incomings AT ALL.

It's true, even 1 is greater than 0 - and is quite the stark contrast.

But seriously, how are newdawn doing this round?

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by DeadMan

Havent payed any attention in the universe so far.

It shows.

[Influence]

Originally Posted by DeadMan

What also is fun is the fact that ND again seem to be the target of these top 3 alliances instead of them bashing eachother. With the occational side step to pee on #4-#10 alliance.

ND the target AGAIN... wait what? wasn't it NewDawn who chose to keep last round stagnated?

if anything, the situation this round is caused by the way NewDawn chickened themself into stagnation last round. It seems all top alliances are keeping away from major politics. And a round with no politics means it's a roidrace, and in roidracing it's allways alliances ranked 4-10 getting the weight of the incomings.

i suppose all that can be done is for the alliances ranked 4 to 10 is all napping together and try to make a difference together. Don't expect a move from the top 3 alliances if you are too chicken to make a move yourself

[Cain]

Originally Posted by Influence

ND the target AGAIN... wait what? wasn't it NewDawn who chose to keep last round stagnated?

if anything, the situation this round is caused by the way NewDawn chickened themself into stagnation last round. It seems all top alliances are keeping away from major politics. And a round with no politics means it's a roidrace, and in roidracing it's allways alliances ranked 4-10 getting the weight of the incomings.

i suppose all that can be done is for the alliances ranked 4 to 10 is all napping together and try to make a difference together. Don't expect a move from the top 3 alliances if you are too chicken to make a move yourself

Ok when i read the first line you typed i had a tiny amount of hope. But man your idiotness nearly reaches the lvl of deadman. The top alliances are keeping away from major politics? And dear lord you finish it off with it being a roidrace now?

OH MY GAWD WHERE DO YOU PEOPLE COME FROM. These stupidity attacks here right now harm me more than losing a roid or 2. Please before you post again put some effort in finding out what is actually going on, thx in advance!

[Shev]

Originally Posted by Influence

It seems all top alliances are keeping away from major politics. And a round with no politics means it's a roidrace, and in roidracing it's allways alliances ranked 4-10 getting the weight of the incomings.

You're wrong, it's not a roidrace(at least not for 2/3). It's a fairly one sided massacre currently though.

[[B5]Londo]

App and Asc have been fighting, tho it cooled off a bit last couple of days as its clear Asc are apathetic, it was not a block war so failed to hit the headlines it seems. So not its not Stagnation, simply no.2 alliance challenged no.1 alliance and lost; result, no change in the rankings except no.2 may fall below no.3, its in the balance.

[Mzyxptlk]

Actually, it was the other way around: we were the #1 alliance, got challenged by the #2, and lost.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

Actually, it was the other way around: we were the #1 alliance, got challenged by the #2, and lost.

Actually, it wasn't. Unless by #1 alliance you mean #1 alliance before everyone had tagged and by challenged you mean got overtaken when the #2 alliance tagged fully. (Ascendancy were #1 until tick 118, which, in the grand scheme of things is about as relevant as what I had for dinner last night.)

[[B5]Londo]

We were? good grief, shows what not having sandmans does to me!
What? there is a Universe page u say? naah don't believe u! not listening!

[Mzyxptlk]

Come on, man. Do you really think we were in a position to challenge anyone? :P

[[B5]Londo]

No, but with that comes the assumption that we wouldn't be in a position to have been no.1 either, even if we were knocked down exceptionally easily, as it was hardly a bitterly fought conflict.
I guess it shows we are still good individually, its just when it comes to actual collective action we fail
Anyway the point was there is action happening, or rather action has happened, if it involved switches in who was no.1, so much the better from that point of view!

[DeadMan]

I cant stop laughing!

[Mzyxptlk]

Huh, you're right. For some reason I thought we had #1 for much longer.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

Huh, you're right. For some reason I thought we had #1 for much longer.

There's nothing as delusional as a pessimist who occasionally forgets himself.

[Cain]

I'm sorry but can you guys focus on making fun of that ND guy? (didn't check if he actually is) Reading about asc saying how weak they are is kinda getting repetitive.

[t3k]

Originally Posted by Cain

I'm sorry but can you guys focus on making fun of that ND guy? (didn't check if he actually is) Reading about asc saying how weak they are is kinda getting repetitive.

But.... he's doing such a delightful job of making himself look stupid - why respond directly to him?

[WallBiter]

At first this round I was enjoying watching the fun of all but ~180 players turned into roid farms. The round isn't stagnate, it's just worthless for the vast majority of the uni to play.

If anything this round shows what a bad idea larger tag limits, or no tag limit is.

As for ND, I was told they chose to have a smaller tag this round in favor of cleaning house. If they really wanted to compete for the top spot, they'd have done what the t3 have... scored themselves 30 legal support planets.

ND may as well start enjoying the golden shower... it's gonna last awhile.

Frankly, I am already bored of wondering who will win top ally.

I would like to hear about what's happening for ally's #5-#10. Anything interesting in those ranks? Preferably from someone in theHorde, HR, ODDR, HEX or GROSS.

[rUl3r]

I think you missed the drawn out arguments about tag limits in the past. You might want to look them up, there are stats that show the tag limit does not influence the number of allies actually playing, nor does it seriously influence the number of #1 contenders - there aren´t enough people out there to run proper allies, nor enough decent and active players to make the mid tier allies competitive for #1.

Limiting def to ally and gal only was a horrible move. I still hate PA team for that stupidity. It certainly annoyed the hell out of me not to be able to occasionally help out friends who decided to play casually. Seriously, all the whining about support planets and stuff is ridiculous. Most people playing this game aren´t competent enough to participate in the top level gameplay, or don´t want to invest the needed effort (which, honestly, isn´t even that much, if you´re competent and well organised).

[Wishmaster]

What does that mean rinoa? I just prodded ships, will they get bashed first night?

[Hunterrrr]

Originally Posted by Wishmaster

What does that mean rinoa? I just prodded ships, will they get bashed first night?

yup all mine!

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by DeadMan

What also is fun is the fact that ND again seem to be the target of these top 3 alliances instead of them bashing eachother. With the occational side step to pee on #4-#10 alliance.

I think NewDawn need to change their name to Lollipop Girls so that we might also run around with red, blue and yellow balloons. Auphoric state of mind is the key it seems.
Perhaps just to try and fool someone into finding another pet to kick in the ribs.

NawDone (Not Done without the scottish twang) is probily be my suggestion

I seem to recall saying to Command that there would be alliances gunning for ND in the first few days and to start making arrangements ... but it was NawDone.

I seem to recall that if you do a gal raid where there was a hirr member was in it get a friend outside of ND to hit them so they dont 3 fleet def v ND ingal ... but it was NawDone

[zebra]

Why have Imperia and Ascendancy NAPPed?

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by zebra

Why have Imperia and Ascendancy NAPPed?

Im guessing that Apprime previous history doesn't make them ideal NAP partners.

[Mzyxptlk]

Why wouldn't we?

[zebra]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

Why wouldn't we?

For one, because you'd have 80 less potential targets. But do you have anything to actually add to the discussion?

Originally Posted by Paisley

Im guessing that Apprime previous history doesn't make them ideal NAP partners.

Well, yes. But I don't think imp and asc napped each other just because of that.

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by zebra

For one, because you'd have 80 less potential targets. But do you have anything to actually add to the discussion?

It's a good thing we're not dumb enough to think like that. For one, making an enemy of Imperia while we're under attack by Apprime isn't the cleverest thing to do.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

It's a good thing we're not dumb enough to think like that. For one, making an enemy of Imperia while we're under attack by Apprime isn't the cleverest thing to do.

Dumb enough to think in terms of facts? You're still under attack by Apprime? From the perspective of your sandmans-replacement history, it looks like you've either gotten your act more together, or the incs have started to subside. I don't have all the details, very few in fact; hence why I'm publicly asking (shocking concept!).

You could always stop with the vague non-answers and insults and just answer

Originally Posted by zebra

Why have Imperia and Ascendancy NAPPed?

[Mzyxptlk]

I don't quite see how anything I said is unclear or insulting.

List of things I have said:
* Apprime is attacking us.
* Imperia is not currently our enemy.
* Making Imperia our enemy while we're under attack by Apprime would be dumb.
* Ascendancy are not dumb.

So let me repeat myself: why wouldn't we NAP Imperia? I'm all for open politics, but honestly, is it too much to expect people to think for about 3 seconds before they ask why the #2 alliance would NAP the #3 alliance?

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by zebra

Well, yes. But I don't think imp and asc napped each other just because of that.

As things stand at this time, App with their roid count and growth in score difference between alliance #1 and alliance #2 I am suspect Imp and asc are taking countermeasures against this

Good point Zebra

[VampiriA]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

I don't quite see how anything I said is unclear or insulting.

List of things I have said:
* Apprime is attacking us.
* Imperia is not currently our enemy.
* Making Imperia our enemy while we're under attack by Apprime would be dumb.
* Ascendancy are not dumb.

So let me repeat myself: why wouldn't we NAP Imperia? I'm all for open politics, but honestly, is it too much to expect people to think for about 3 seconds before they ask why the #2 alliance would NAP the #3 alliance?

- SO you napped Imperia so you don't get imp incs while apprime is hitting you. As far as i know imperia have not hit asc yet.. and have had an avoidance pact before they even napped on ( +3 asc in gal ) which should be enough.

As for imp, I see this nap with asc and horde by Imp, will force the universe into splitting into blocks.. so again i don't see the benifit.

[Influence]

Originally Posted by VampiriA

- SO you napped Imperia so you don't get imp incs while apprime is hitting you. As far as i know imperia have not hit asc yet.. and have had an avoidance pact before they even napped on ( +3 asc in gal ) which should be enough.

As for imp, I see this nap with asc and horde by Imp, will force the universe into splitting into blocks.. so again i don't see the benifit.

Afaik the avoidance pact Imperia and Asc had ended over 10 days ago. This does not mean Imperia stopped avoiding Asc tho, in the same way Imperia avoided Apprime. Up to this point there was little use for them to interfere in the Asc/App war, hitting a gal of either side could be seen as Imperia siding with the other side, so Imperia avoided both while growing stronger. However it has become more and more apparent Apprime will walk away with the victory if nothing changes in the situation, so Imperia napping Asc is probably their best bet for success.

At least this is better than last round where the #1 alliance napped the #4 alliance before any real opposing block had been formed. Let's just hope that when/if either Asc or Imp pass Apprime and start pulling away the politics remain fluid.

I don't see how horde fits in this as a block partner... I think Imperia have made their motives for the nap with the horde clear in another thread on these forums.

[Shev]

Originally Posted by VampiriA

As far as i know imperia have not hit asc yet...

You're wrong. Feel free to revise the rest of your post now that you're better informed.

[VampiriA]

Originally Posted by Shev

You're wrong. Feel free to revise the rest of your post now that you're better informed.

thanks for your opinion

[Mzyxptlk]

Of course not, there are no benefits for you. Just for us.

Also, pretty funny that you consider the horde a serious threat.

[VampiriA]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

Of course not, there are no benefits for you. Just for us.

Also, pretty funny that you consider the horde a serious threat.

whats even more funny.. how you consider TOF a serious threat.. lol

[ricoshay]

Originally Posted by VampiriA

whats even more funny.. how you consider TOF a serious threat.. lol

Who said we do? We hit them because we thought they're flakking for Apprime. Same reason for which we hit ODDR also.

Originally Posted by VampiriA

- SO you napped Imperia so you don't get imp incs while apprime is hitting you. As far as i know imperia have not hit asc yet.. and have had an avoidance pact before they even napped on ( +3 asc in gal ) which should be enough.

The avoidance was in effect for two days, afterwards certain Imperia members hit Ascendancy (alongside Apprime or soloing) and we decided to drop the said deal. There were about 5 days between the date the avoidance was dropped and the NAP made.

Maybe, in the future, you should get your information right before stating any opinion.

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by ricoshay

Who said we do? We hit them because we thought they're flakking for Apprime. Same reason for which we hit ODDR also.

I didn't know that there were alliances left stupid enough to flak for apprime
R.I.P. P3nguins and Vision

[tobbe]

Originally Posted by ricoshay

afterwards certain Imperia members hit Ascendancy (alongside Apprime or soloing)
Maybe, in the future, you should get your information right before stating any opinion.

I want my fleet back

[HeimdallR]

Originally Posted by ricoshay

Who said we do? We hit them because we thought they're flakking for Apprime. Same reason for which we hit ODDR also.

Allthough ODDR and APP have always gotten along very well, and shocker right here , the only alliance we got a good trusting relationship with, build up during past few rounds(except for rock).
probably cause they don't act like whiny ****s *cough* nd, ct *cough* when we hit them.

As for you guys hitting us, you guys prolly could have done us alot worse, so won't consider that a decent asc hit on us. no good reason any of the top 3 should focus on the 5 - 10 alliances anyway

[t3k]

Originally Posted by HeimdallR

Allthough ODDR and APP have always gotten along very well, and shocker right here , the only alliance we got a good trusting relationship with, build up during past few rounds(except for rock).
probably cause they don't act like whiny ****s *cough* nd, ct *cough* when we hit them.

As for you guys hitting us, you guys prolly could have done us alot worse, so won't consider that a decent asc hit on us. no good reason any of the top 3 should focus on the 5 - 10 alliances anyway

Hey screw you - we were nothing but good to you guys last round!

[HeimdallR]

Originally Posted by Kenny

Hey screw you - we were nothing but good to you guys last round!

doesn't count for an alliance that only lasts 1 round

[Hunterrrr]

my god paisley your giving me brainaids