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Unread 11 Sep 2005, 23:02   #1
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British police gone nuts

British police shoot more innocent civilians

Have British police gone completely nuts? They used to just walk around with a night stick. Now they shoot people at random.
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Re: British police gone nuts

you didn't read that did you.
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Re: British police gone nuts

someone's an idiot (and its not yahwe).
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Re: British police gone nuts

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LOOK LOOK! HAHA STUPID EUROPEANS GONE CRAZY.

BET AMERICA DOESN'T LOOK SO BAD NOW...
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Re: British police gone nuts

Oh my god, they responded to coming under live fire from snipers!
Had that happened in America, I would expect to see air support called in...
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Re: British police gone nuts

I blame Koen
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Re: British police gone nuts

British Police deny using US police tactics: 'We didn't leave them to drown,oh is that your car sir ?'
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Re: British police gone nuts

ITT, Texan is exposed as a troll or an ignoramus.
Take your pick lads!
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Re: British police gone nuts

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ITT, Texan is exposed as a troll or an ignoramus.
Tale you pick lads!
I thought he was just an average, redblooded American.
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Re: British police gone nuts

so the first one then.
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Re: British police gone nuts

I proposed a combination.
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Re: British police gone nuts

Haha I can't believe any of you responded to this. Has it been this long since anyone even vaguely half-assed tried to troll GD?


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Oh my god, they responded to coming under live fire from snipers!
Had that happened in America, I would expect to see air support called in...
Are you sure it was sniper fire? On the bbc website it just said they had been shot at, which is rather different from coming under live fire from snipers.
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Re: British police gone nuts

Jonny: On the ITV News earlier this evening, their "head officer bloke" (can't remember his exact title) said something along the lines of:
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Our offices came under live fire from hidden paramilitary gunmen, who then made off into the surrounding neighbourhood. One Land Rover took around 50 rounds.
Sounds like snipers to me.
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Re: British police gone nuts

Saying it was snipers implies that there was some deal of precision. From what's been shown it seems to be mostly smaller arms fire from pistols and sub machine guns. Which are generally the mainstay of the Loyalists who attacked the police.

And I do take it that Mr. Texan is just trying to troll. I mean anyone who actually read that report of any other couldn't say that the police shot innocent victims.
And at random? They were being pummeled with blast bombs, petrol bombs, sticks, stones and then were shot at. They seemingly returned fire at two masked men, but didn't hit anyone and the impression was got that this was deliberate.

Personally I LOVE the Orange Orders comments:

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The Orange Order accused the police of adopting "a brutal and heavy-handed" approach.

The Order was angered by the directive to re-route the parade, one of its seasonal marches in a province that remains substantially divided along religious lines.
Watching the news they showed police camera footage of the Orange men, armed with bottles, sticks, pipes and bricks, hammering them into police lines, while dressed in full Orange Order regalia.

"How dare you stop us marching a mile out of our way to walk through a catholic housing estate! Everyone riot and attack the cops!"

So Loyalist violence spreads ever further. Murders, assasinations, intimidation, house burning, pipe bombing, punishment attacks, rioting.
If they Nationalist community was doing that there would be uproar. But it takes a 700man riot to even make the news if it's Loyalists.
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Watching the news they showed police camera footage of the Orange men, armed with bottles, sticks, pipes and bricks, hammering them into police lines, while dressed in full Orange Order regalia.
Don't forget the guy threatening the police with a ceremonial sword.
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Don't forget the guy threatening the police with a ceremonial sword.
I wonder is that in the training manual. "Sarge, what do we do if someone has a ceremonial sword?" "Umm hang on...Sub-Machine Gun....Sticks....Sling....shit, there's nothing bout a sword in the manual"

How the hell do you get away with that exactly? You're on camera. You're disguised in a white shirt, bright orange sash, bowler hat and wielding a large sword.
It's not like you're ****ing inconspicuous.
Yet I bet he won't be charged.
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Re: British police gone nuts

Incubus is correct. If those were nationalists, there would be burial ceremonies in the next few days.
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Re: British police gone nuts

I opened that news site and I saw the words 'Riot' and a picture with flames and didn't need to read more than the first paragraph to know that this thread is shit and that Texan has no idea wtf he's talking about, again.
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I thought he was just an average, redblooded American.
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I opened that news site and I saw the words 'Riot' and a picture with flames and didn't need to read more than the first paragraph to know that this thread is shit and that Texan has no idea wtf he's talking about, again.
Is "Texan" some kind of account you americans log into, in order to project the standard image of an american redneck, and then slander him to increase your popularity with the europeans?
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**** you.
You are in my opinion not average, nor do you fulfill any of the normal negative stereotypes connected with Americans.
Please don't make me change my opinion, dear.
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I opened that news site and I saw the words 'Riot' and a picture with flames and didn't need to read more than the first paragraph to know that this thread is shit and that Texan has no idea wtf he's talking about, again.
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On top of that, I have no idea what it is you're talking about, but that just might be because you don't understand what it means to be a Marine.
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And they say America is bad.

"NUKE THE UK," I've always said. Just a bunch of mindless gun controlling nazis who shoot innocent civilians.
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Oh my god, they responded to coming under live fire from snipers!
Had that happened in America, I would expect to see air support called in...
My response to this statement is henceforth:

"If the cops were under sniper fire, they would have been unable to return fire."

Assuming of course that this is not Iraq in which a 13 year old has a sniper rifle and that the Irish/whatever shooter has a vague idea and knowlege of how to properly use a firearm.
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You, never having worn the cross rifles, have no idea what it is your talking about. You're not 'in' on it. You Army goons always are so naive to believe that Marines are anything like a soldier.

On top of that, I have no idea what it is you're talking about, but that just might be because you don't understand what it means to be a Marine.
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Why has the Texan poster ignored the fact that his/her original post was wrong and instead joined back in the thread, not with an apology or explanation but with this strange tactic of calling people Marines?

I'm new here and I don't understand
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he went off his rocker because america ****ed up the handling of hurrican katrina and lots of us pointed it out.
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Why has the Texan poster ignored the fact that his/her original post was wrong and instead joined back in the thread, not with an apology or explanation but with this strange tactic of calling people Marines?

I'm new here and I don't understand
Who's gimick account are you?

Oh this must bea joke....
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Re: British police gone nuts

As you know I have been absent from these boards for some time now, almost a year in fact. After a quick but of reading, I discovered the following facts.
-Yahwe has been unbanned or made a new account, and is back.
-Texan seems to have a tenuous grip on reality.
-Very little else has changed.

Out of curiosity, ignoring 1 and 3 for a moment, what exactly happend to Texan? If he is in fact a troll now, and I can find no other logical explanation for his vapid and pointless post beginning this thread, when did this start? He was always a bit of a mook to be sure, but he seems to have descended to new lows...
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I think he got annoyed that everybody was badmouthing America constantly, and came to the conclusion that the only solution was to troll.
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In so far as I can see any logic in it, he became annoyed that people were saying the American governement made a mess of handling Katrina, so the obvious course of action is to start criticising the British government in the most poorly thought-out way possible.
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I see. So when faced with the reality of the fact that the US government was incompetent in its handling of a major crisis, he took umbrage and, in order to demonstrate how it could not be true, decided to act in as incompetent a manner as possible?

Interesting tactic.

How's it working out for him?
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-Texan seems to have a tenuous grip on reality.
-Very little else has changed.

Out of curiosity, ignoring 1 and 3 for a moment, what exactly happend to Texan? If he is in fact a troll now, and I can find no other logical explanation for his vapid and pointless post beginning this thread, when did this start? He was always a bit of a mook to be sure, but he seems to have descended to new lows...
When you're right on these forums they say that youre trolling.

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No wonder the British Empire fell so easily.
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Oh look vermillion's back. GD is a little like syphilis I think. It's ****ing horrible at the start and it annihilates your social life but then after a while it pisses off and you forget that it exists and live your life normally but sooner or later BOOM back it comes with a vengeance and before you know it you're braindead.
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When you're right on these forums they say that youre trolling.

How convenient.
Being right requires more then "because i said so and go to hell if you disagree" to even be considered as anything other then trolling.
Yourself, and Texan have an absymal record on this
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When you're right on these forums they say that youre trolling.
Was he right about something? Has Taxan been slandered unjustifiably? I dont know, all I can see are his posts over the last couple days, exemplified by this thread. Ithat evidence certainly seems to be closer to the condemnation side then the innocent side.

Perhaps I shall wait and see for myself, but so far your uninformative one-liner is the only voice in his defence... not a good sign.
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In so far as I can see any logic in it, he became annoyed that people were saying the American governement made a mess of handling Katrina, so the obvious course of action is to start criticising the British government in the most poorly thought-out way possible.
No one was blaming the American government. They were blaming the president. Pointing out that the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisiana had primary and secondary responsibility for the safety of the people of New Orleans was a waste of time. Many people on this forum had alredy made up their minds regardless of their lack of knowledge about how the United States functions.

See for example Posse Comitatus Act.

They also had made up their minds that Bush himself was going to personally lead an enquiry into who was responsible and that no other branch of government would be doing so. Also not true.

See tin pot dictatorship.

After that went on for about a week, I just decided to post lies and propaganda. And they responded well. They defended their countries from the lies and propaganda, just as I thought they would.

I will continue to defend my country from lies and propaganda on this forum, and i will continue to post lies and propaganda about other countries. It seems to be the direction in which many people want this forum to develop.
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No one was blaming the American government. They were blaming the president. Pointing out that the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisiana had primary and secondary responsibility for the safety of the people of New Orleans was a waste of time. Many people on this forum had alredy made up their minds regardless of their lack of knowledge about how the United States functions.
I quite clearly praised the Mayor of New Orleans. The man swore on national radio as a way of emphasising the man made calamity. The governor of lousiana was criticised by me for praising the shoot to kill policy rather than worrying about food and water.

And yes I criticised Bush, as i believe history will.

did you actually bother to read what was written???

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They also had made up their minds that Bush himself was going to personally lead an enquiry into who was responsible and that no other branch of government would be doing so. Also not true.
bush is going to chair an enquiry. the fact that there will be other enquiries doesn't really alter the fact that this is an awful thing for a man potentially to blame to do.

All through the situation we quoted sources. pefectly valid sources.

How were we to know that you care more about the dignity of your President than you do for the lives of your fellow citizens???
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No one was blaming the American government. They were blaming the president. Pointing out that the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisiana had primary and secondary responsibility for the safety of the people of New Orleans was a waste of time. Many people on this forum had alredy made up their minds regardless of their lack of knowledge about how the United States functions.
I, and I imagine quite a few others, were well aware of how the US functions. However as supporters of many of the rather extreme "anti-terrorism" bills have pointed out extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures. Perhaps hurricane katrina is a valid time for extraordinary temporary measures? The fact that you emerged into a flawed system, instead of being partly responsible for its creation, is not necessarily a valid excuse for not correcting its flaws.
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Re: British police gone nuts

Here is the thread that got me pissed off. You can read it if you want. Vermillion.

http://pirate.planetarion.com/showth...2&page=1&pp=50

I can't stand to read it again. There were very few links posted with actual facts. The few links that were posted were to suppositions made by the media. Including the lie that Bush will chair an enquiry.

Here is another interesting link. Some of you may have seen it before. Do you know what it is?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4...0735183_11.jpg
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I, and I imagine quite a few others, were well aware of how the US functions. However as supporters of many of the rather extreme "anti-terrorism" bills have pointed out extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures. Perhaps hurricane katrina is a valid time for extraordinary temporary measures? The fact that you emerged into a flawed system, instead of being partly responsible for its creation, is not necessarily a valid excuse for not correcting its flaws.
There has been some talk about getting rid of the Posse Comitatus Act. That, unfortunately, would be the next step to an autocratic government.
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Here is the thread that got me pissed off. You can read it if you want. Vermillion.

http://pirate.planetarion.com/showth...2&page=1&pp=50
And check out a line from the first post. The first post, which started the thread and offered the thread title up for debate.

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Does he step over the line with these claims or does he have a valid point?
I wish your threads did the same thing.
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