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Cicada · 7 Jun 2003, 15:27

the extreme lack of Metal roids in the universe atm...

guess it must be something to do with the initiation process and the way we started, but i can't seem to get more m roids than C roids..

yes it means i'm damm good for scanning, but it's a pain in the arse having this left over crystal all the time. Must be damn nice for Ziks though..

Ditcher · 7 Jun 2003, 15:33

Im zik and i have almost 500k C in stock also. Cutters take all the M and I havent build any clippers yet.

Gayle29uk · 7 Jun 2003, 15:35

Mmmmm....Sentinels

MrL_JaKiri · 7 Jun 2003, 15:38

Clipper+Rogue tastic

Cicada · 7 Jun 2003, 15:44

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Originally posted by Gayle29uk
Mmmmm....Sentinels

i've got a ton of sents already, they're a fairly crappy C sink, especially considering that the pulsar is better

Gayle29uk · 7 Jun 2003, 15:54

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Originally posted by Cicada
i've got a ton of sents already, they're a fairly crappy C sink, especially considering that the pulsar is better

I was actually being facetious, I currently have about twice as many sents as pulsars

MrL_JaKiri · 7 Jun 2003, 16:00

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Originally posted by Gayle29uk
I was actually being facetious, I currently have about twice as many sents as pulsars

Like most xans last round? (At least 2x as many)

dabult · 7 Jun 2003, 16:01

Didnt take me long to regret completing the quests first possible tick..should have waited for a couple of ticks and initiated a batch of m-roids first :o

MadeMan · 7 Jun 2003, 19:37

yes, and only c dump i have is spiders!!! gotdamn. i hate spiderS! well they are good as alliance def atleast? NO! T_T

The_Fish · 7 Jun 2003, 20:03

sents > pulsars

SYMM · 7 Jun 2003, 20:18

So am i the only one with excess metal then?
I can't build as many spiders as i'd like to

at0mic.c0w · 7 Jun 2003, 20:19

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Originally posted by SYMM
So am i the only one with excess metal then?
I can't build as many spiders as i'd like to

nope same here. not enough C... at least for a few more ticks

Scouse · 7 Jun 2003, 20:28

Any ziks who have a lot of spare C must be operating a scan planet as well as their main planet, otherwise they'd be spening a lot on their scans.

JonnyBGood · 7 Jun 2003, 20:41

By some fluke I managed to hit on the exact roid ratio I needed as terran. Those pegs are an absolutely perfect crystal sink heh.

Unf_Slasher · 7 Jun 2003, 21:25

if you got too much C, try deleting your scan planet and doing your scans yourselve.

MadeMan · 7 Jun 2003, 21:26

well what about also using it for reflectors, always funny.

Maddix · 7 Jun 2003, 21:29

Bad news for Xans too, gunna be a lot of Spiders around.

Terrans are gunna be swimming in Pegs too.

The_Fish · 7 Jun 2003, 22:03

Xans main target is other Xans though, and a xan trying to roid a cath is surely stupid?

SPQR · 7 Jun 2003, 22:08

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Originally posted by The_Fish
Xans main target is other Xans though, and a xan trying to roid a cath is surely stupid?

Yes, but with more Spiders in the universe its easier to get def against them.

The_Fish · 7 Jun 2003, 22:09

still, Xans are practically eta 5 attack fleets, and you're relying on gal and para/cluster then, I still think Xan is a good choice

K-W · 7 Jun 2003, 22:22

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Originally posted by The_Fish
sents > pulsars

Other than being a crystal sink, I dont follow.

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Fish
Xans main target is other Xans though, and a xan trying to roid a cath is surely stupid?

Depends on your fleet. I know xans last round whos main targets were caths.

The_Fish · 7 Jun 2003, 23:10

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Originally posted by K-W
Other than being a crystal sink, I dont follow.

Depends on your fleet. I know xans last round whos main targets were caths.

T3 all

you must be a really co heavy xan searching for caths with few spids and BW then without getting most of your fleet frozen and easily covered with a bit of in gal trading (your roaches for a xans vsharraks or something)

kyrealean · 7 Jun 2003, 23:38

would love to nab more C roids..... between building clippers, rogues and marauders, plus trying to keep amp ratio to where i can at least get the news or mil scan thru, is a complete biatch :/

Cicada · 7 Jun 2003, 23:51

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Originally posted by The_Fish
T3 all

pulsars are superiour to sents this round

The_Fish · 7 Jun 2003, 23:54

sents are more useful, for example a cath cr fleet would laugh at your pulsars whilst your sents inflict damage.

There are also way too many E roids about, I have about 800k stocked already, its stupid

K-W · 8 Jun 2003, 00:56

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Originally posted by The_Fish
T3 all

you must be a really co heavy xan searching for caths with few spids and BW then without getting most of your fleet frozen and easily covered with a bit of in gal trading (your roaches for a xans vsharraks or something)

T3 all, so? Who cares. You can watch your sents random fire around like crazy, while my pulsars actually kill fr/de effectively. And as far as cruisers, all xans have sents. You cant avoid them. But overbuilding them when you could build better ships is a mistake.

As far as xans roiding caths, when it comes down to your argument based on nothing and actually having watched xans roid caths. Im going to have to side with reality. Sorry.

nickhall · 9 Jun 2003, 00:51

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Originally posted by K-W
Depends on your fleet. I know xans last round whos main targets were caths.

must be prity poor Caths or xan players going for targets towards the bottom of their range. As Beetles rule xan Fi and spids + BW's own Vults.

K-W · 9 Jun 2003, 01:42

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Originally posted by nickhall
must be prity poor Caths or xan players going for targets towards the bottom of their range. As Beetles rule xan Fi and spids + BW's own Vults.

Nope, top player xans hitting good sized caths.

Psi_K · 9 Jun 2003, 03:19

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Originally posted by Cicada
i've got a ton of sents already, they're a fairly crappy C sink, especially considering that the pulsar is better

Listening to MAd again?
Tisk Tisk
I thought you knew better.
Stat wise Pulsars are better, Usefulness Sents are better.

Storebo · 9 Jun 2003, 04:30

init more metal roids people... i need my vsh =)

CrazyConrad · 9 Jun 2003, 08:30

I am zik and have almost equally amount of m and c roids. The c I have extra I use for scans and it really aint that much.

Of course Cutters takes most of my m but clippers are very good in using up my c

whoop · 9 Jun 2003, 18:21

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Originally posted by Unf_Slasher
if you got too much C, try deleting your scan planet and doing your scans yourselve.

seconded.

-whoop

furssie · 11 Jun 2003, 03:34

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Originally posted by K-W
Nope, top player xans hitting good sized caths.

I agree that as a xand it's not a bad idea targetting caths.

This is due to choosing bomber instead of arrows for the CO flak.

pulsar > sents. Firepower of sents seems not fitting to the xan race, sucks. Other than being a C synk and the T3 All, I don't like sents much but seems at this point we have no choice but to build them.

dabult · 11 Jun 2003, 08:16

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Originally posted by furssie
I agree that as a xand it's not a bad idea targetting caths.

This is due to choosing bomber instead of arrows for the CO flak.

pulsar > sents. Firepower of sents seems not fitting to the xan race, sucks. Other than being a C synk and the T3 All, I don't like sents much but seems at this point we have no choice but to build them.

The T1-CO apparently works, a xan with lots of pulsars instead make me smile when i pick target.

General Martok · 11 Jun 2003, 12:39

I don't see why people say pulsars > sents or sent > pulsars. Just build them both

Pulsars get rid of the fr/de and the sents can kill the larger stuff

Knight Theamion · 11 Jun 2003, 12:42

Lots of wyverns this will mean. I am always saving up from 1700 till 0500 and then i build wyverns for the next day
At 1300 I build pegs
At 1700 i build chimeras and pods

in between i build some harpies.

(Score boost between 0300 and 0500)++;

Ultimate Newbie · 11 Jun 2003, 14:36

Atm i've found myself in a bit of an M shortage too, but that's cos all my M goes into Tarants (and mantis pods), with remaining C going into Spiders for alliance defence. Yes, i'll be building Guardians soon

Contrary to popular belief, Tarants are snappy enough to be of use in para (!!). really ruins a Terran's day

My view on Sentinel/Pulsars, is that Pulsars are superior when targeting FR and DE, but Sentinels are a neccesary evil - they are a hell of alot better than C floating around in storage and very useful for defending against CR caths (as i have found out :\).

Sentinels have their uses. Pulsars are a better ship.