crazy people

[Deepflow]

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp

even better!

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

What decade are you living in, and where are you located? Paris in the 60's?

If not, then tell all the ****ers to pull themselves together, or you're going to call in The CIA.

Marxism, indeed. Well I never.

I have tried to communicate with Ayn Rand but apparently due to the insidious influences of communism on medical science she's dead.

[Nodrog]

This thread certainly isnt full of preconceived dogma

[W]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

dogma

[Nodrog]

Yeah I know you already said it but I couldnt think of a better word.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

This thread certainly isnt full of preconceived dogma

"Nod in 'talking Communism' non-shocker."

[sayonara]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

This thread certainly isnt full of preconceived dogma

Don't suppose you'd care to expand on that at all?

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally Posted by sayonara

Don't suppose you'd care to expand on that at all?

Request for Nod to substantiate fatuous pretensious non-argument denied.

[sayonara]

Sorry, for a crazy moment there I forgot he was "jaded".

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally Posted by sayonara

Sorry, for a crazy moment there I forgot he was "jaded".

Nothing wrong with young Nodrog except that he's a bit cracked.*

This whole board is like one big inbred series of dutch auctions, as each person in turn attempts to be the most ridiculously shiet piece of puffed-up human waste concievable.







I gots me a granny trolley!

Now I will rule.











* Change to 'crap' and quote at leisure if desired.

[roadrunner_0]

that is the single most ridiculous load of shti i have ever had the misfortune to read, but still, i was compelled to read to the end, just so that i knew what knid of crap a creationist would spout so i can kill them if i ever meet one.

[W]

And only the power of JESUS CHRIST can hold protons together.

Sorry, just visited the page right now.

[Nodrog]

Originally Posted by sayonara

Don't suppose you'd care to expand on that at all?

lololol creationists are dum imagine believing such wacky things with no evidence, what a bunch of morons am i rite? Hay does anyone here know any facts about that evolution thing so i can disprove their arguements and show them how dum and stupid they are, coz I dont really know that much about it myself

[Radical Edward]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

lololol creationists are dum imagine believing such wacky things with no evidence, what a bunch of morons am i rite? Hay does anyone here know any facts about that evolution thing so i can disprove their arguements and show them how dum and stupid they are, coz I dont really know that much about it myself

where would you like to begin?

[Radical Edward]

Originally Posted by W

And only the power of JESUS CHRIST can hold protons together.

Sorry, just visited the page right now.

well if you want worse, follow one of the links in that cartoon.

www.drdino.com

his seminars are particularly funny... hours and hours of absolute shiet (scientifically and theologically).

you don't happen to know of any good books on General Relativity do you?

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

lololol creationists are dum imagine believing such wacky things with no evidence, what a bunch of morons am i rite? Hay does anyone here know any facts about that evolution thing so i can disprove their arguements and show them how dum and stupid they are, coz I dont really know that much about it myself

Great Nod Opinions of the Twenty First Century, part 17

[Radical Edward]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Great Nod Opinions of the Twenty First Century, part 17

I am never sure about Nod. sometimes he seems like an infinitely recursive self parody.

[roadrunner_0]

seriously, i used to think nod was one of the best posters on this board, now he is just a cynic who will post any old crap to try and disprove or mock whatever argument is going on at the moment, i mean seriously nod, what the hell was up with that last post? it made no kind of bloody sense at all except as a stupid sarcastic comment and added aboslutly nothing to the argument at hand.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

Nothing wrong with young Nodrog except that he's a bit cracked.

[sayonara]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

lololol creationists are dum imagine believing such wacky things with no evidence, what a bunch of morons am i rite? Hay does anyone here know any facts about that evolution thing so i can disprove their arguements and show them how dum and stupid they are, coz I dont really know that much about it myself

Seeing as I have spent the last 12 years studying evolution, I find that kind of attitude disappointing. There is such a thing as being too cynical.

I have no problem with people who want to have certain beliefs or faiths I do not share. What I have a problem with are those who cannot be bothered to spend 10-20 years learning about a subject, but feel able to put the effort into attacking those who can. I don't think that's an unreasonable stance.

In this particular case, since the site uses cartoons drawn in the WWII propaganda style with the explicit intention of selling a product, I don't think it's unreasonable for a self-determined individual to be appalled regardless of their knowledge of science.

[Nicole]

Did anyone read the Virgin Mary one? This guy really doesn't like the Catholics. I was almost offended, but then I remembered that I was an atheist so I got over it.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally Posted by Nicole

Did anyone read the Virgin Mary one? This guy really doesn't like the Catholics. I was almost offended, but then I remembered that I was an atheist so I got over it.

This bit, you mean? :

"Didn't Christianity consist of the Catholic Church for the first 1500 years?

No. While the Catholic Church was seeking to control the world through religion, true Christians were running for their lives from the Catholic holocaust that ran for centuries.

God has always had His people, faithful to Him and His Word. They had no part in the Roman Catholic Church. Through much of history, organized religion has hunted and slaughtered God's people. For an excellent overview of this, read the classic work, "The Trail of Blood," at one of these websites:"

[Marilyn Manson]

Or you could try:

"Who were these Arabs? They obviously were not Christians because they destroyed churches and murdered priests wherever they went."

for kicks.

[Nicole]

Yes, and the bit where the Catholics are behind the Lincoln assassination. I guess making them responsible for the JFK assassination was a little too far-fetched. I'm not an authority or anything but I'm pretty sure being a conspiracy theorist isn't very christ-like.

[Marilyn Manson]

They seem to be obsessed with attempting to prove that anything that is not Protestant/Reformed is derived from the ancient Middle-East, primarily from fertility symbols.




THIS SITE IS COMEDY GOLD! GOLD, I TELLS YA!

[Marilyn Manson]

I love Evangelicals that take the Bible literally. Always ask them about the bit about Jesus sitting on God's right hand.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

I love Evangelicals that take the Bible literally. Always ask them about the bit about Jesus sitting on God's right hand.

Keeps it warm.

[Marilyn Manson]

Mark 16:19 "So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God."


There you go.

[sayonara]

God has hands now?

I thought he was a gas.

[Kurashima]

Religion is a belief in something which cannot be rationally explained.
Belief in something which cannot be explained leads to irrational behaviour to defend that belief.
Irrational Behaviour in turn generates divisions , anger , mistrust and hate.
Mistrust and Hate are two common ingredients of War.

Thus , Religion leads to War.

Ban Religion. Make people empirically prove the existence of whichever deity they worship or deny them the right to practice their faith. Kill them if they continue.

When im God, Religion Dies.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally Posted by sayonara

I thought he was a gas.

You've met him?

[Radical Edward]

Originally Posted by Kurashima

Ban Religion. Make people empirically prove the existence of whichever deity they worship or deny them the right to practice their faith. Kill them if they continue.

empirically prove that there isn't a God.... you will have trouble, since science can't touch the supernatural. the only answer you can get is "I don't know" and be an agnostic.

[Radical Edward]

Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

You've met him?

he was at the party last friday. It's a real pest since there are three of him.

[G_frog]

Originally Posted by Radical Edward

empirically prove that there isn't a God.... you will have trouble, since science can't touch the supernatural. the only answer you can get is "I don't know" and be an agnostic.

I think you can reasonably be a (sceptical) atheist. God has no more support than many other things which we would happily claim we know do not exist.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

lololol creationists are dum imagine believing such wacky things with no evidence

I don't think the issue is believing things without evidence. I'm pretty sure the resident 'science' guy who writes the stuff has read way more than me on evolution. It's to do with having rather blinkered views and/or intellectual dishonesty in dealing with the arguments.

[Radical Edward]

Originally Posted by G_frog

I think you can reasonably be a (sceptical) atheist. God has no more support than many other things which we would happily claim we know do not exist.

well that turns into a semantic argument really (about where the lines between agnosticism and weak atheism and so on fall), but in essence I agree with you. The way I see God is as a cleverly constructed idea that cannot be refuted scientifically. an isolated vortex in the meme pool.

[Nodrog]

Originally Posted by sayonara

Seeing as I have spent the last 12 years studying evolution, I find that kind of attitude disappointing. There is such a thing as being too cynical.

I have no problem with people who want to have certain beliefs or faiths I do not share. What I have a problem with are those who cannot be bothered to spend 10-20 years learning about a subject, but feel able to put the effort into attacking those who can. I don't think that's an unreasonable stance.

In this particular case, since the site uses cartoons drawn in the WWII propaganda style with the explicit intention of selling a product, I don't think it's unreasonable for a self-determined individual to be appalled regardless of their knowledge of science.

If you have 'spent 12 years studying evolution', then I obviously wasnt referring to you, given that my post was mocking the recurring theme in this thread of person A (who knows nothing about evolution other than the fact it must be true) critisizing person B (who knows nothing about evolution other than that its false because creationism is true!!!) for dogmatically accepting second hand beliefs, and generally not thinking much.

Originally Posted by sayonara

In this particular case, since the site uses cartoons drawn in the WWII propaganda style with the explicit intention of selling a product, I don't think it's unreasonable for a self-determined individual to be appalled regardless of their knowledge of science.

Who cares about the presentation style? The cartoon still put forwards arguements about evolution/creationism. I seriously doubt that 90% of the people who posted some varient of "lolol thats so dum, silly jesus people!" have any idea whatsoever regarding the validity of said arguments (notice that I'm not even remotely claiming that the arguements were actually valid - thats irrelevant).

[sayonara]

Fair enough points nod.

See what happens when your posts are vague and indiscriminate? :-p

[Nodrog]

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

I don't think the issue is believing things without evidence. I'm pretty sure the resident 'science' guy who writes the stuff has read way more than me on evolution. It's to do with having rather blinkered views and/or intellectual dishonesty in dealing with the arguments.

You're constrasting his blinkered view with your own enlightened epistemology that allows you to realise his arguement is obviously wrong without even having to go to the bother of checking out his claims?


"I am firm, you are obstinate, he is a pigheaded fool"

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

You're constrasting his blinkered view with your own enlightened epistemology that allows you to realise his arguement is obviously wrong without even having to go to the bother of checking out his claims?"

Well, I've read at least a couple of dozen books on the subject, studied it both at Uni and in my spare time, and so on. So, no. I'm aware of his claims, and I'm aware they're largely wrong, or misleading.

As I say, it's mainly an issue of the language used and the way the arguments are handled. Without knowing a single thing about evolution you can still tell his arguments are dodgy.

Also, there's an issue of trust. I know very little on theoretical physics (say). If there's an argument between various luminaries in the field versus a website where they call D&D "satanic", I hardly think it's "blind" to lean one way without going to get a physics degree...

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Toccata & Fugue

You may say well that doesn't mean he's wrong but if Noel Edmonds chose to suddenly start lecturing on theoretical physics I think it would fair to ignore his opinions.

Racist.





PS All those books you read were lies perpetuated by the evil catholics/arabs/atheists/communists (delete as appropriate). I recommend you go dig up those fossils yourself and then design a dating machine (it still wouldn't work for nod hohoho) to discover how old these fossils are as I think those evil <aforementioned group> planted them recently to confuse us and divert us from the word of good. First of all we better reinvent the wheel so we can be sure we're actually moving towards our destination and that those evil <long words go here> aren't deceiving us further. Best to re-establish reason first as well though.



PPS Parody lol.

[queball]

Creationists are hot.*

*based on limited experience

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally Posted by queball

Creationists are hot.*

What do you mean by hot? Are we talking to the extent of bubbling?

[queball]

Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

What do you mean by hot? Are we talking to the extent of bubbling?

4 billion years BC hot.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally Posted by queball

4 billion years BC hot.

The world was has only been around for four thousand, retard.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

If you have 'spent 12 years studying evolution', then I obviously wasnt referring to you, given that my post was mocking the recurring theme in this thread of person A (who knows nothing about evolution other than the fact it must be true) critisizing person B (who knows nothing about evolution other than that its false because creationism is true!!!) for dogmatically accepting second hand beliefs, and generally not thinking much.

Recurring theme in this thread? The only statements I can see relating to this topic in any meaningful way are mine and ChubbyChecker's, in which he says what you just said and I say that from an "enlightened" position, the result of science (whether you know the evidence or not) should be taken to be more reliable.

[Radical Edward]

Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

The world was has only been around for four thousand, retard.

6000. it was flooded 4000 years ago.

[Marilyn Manson]

Originally Posted by Radical Edward

6000. it was flooded 4000 years ago.

Well, you're a Catholic so you would say that, wouldn't you?

[Radical Edward]

Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

Well, you're a Catholic so you would say that, wouldn't you?

be careful, or I will call upon the inquisition to slay you, you "true christian"

[G_frog]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

I seriously doubt that 90% of the people who posted some varient of "lolol thats so dum, silly jesus people!" have any idea whatsoever regarding the validity of said arguments.

most people can spot the dubious nature of "gluons are hypothetical, so it must be jesus".