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Unread 24 Nov 2005, 05:32   #1
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Longer Drinking Hours

Well the wetherspoons in Canterbury are now open until Midnight Sunday-Thursday and until "late" Friday and Saturday. The Works in Birmingham is open until 6am this Saturday and my local will probably continue to do its illegal lockin. Lets face it, it wont change drinking too much will it? It will just make us more contentinental in our approach to drinking in my opinion.

We will be a lot more relaxed, wont binge and will leave at different times if places are open longer ie not all leaving at 2am. To be honest its also good to see Labour fulfill something on there manifesto.

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Unread 24 Nov 2005, 07:51   #2
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Re: Longer Drinking Hours

It'll have very little effect at all on attitudes towards drinking in this country. Longer opening hours on their own mean virtually nothing.

Our culture isn't suited to the "continental approach". When people read "24 hour drinking" here, they read "get pissed whenever you want."

And the age limit needs to be dropped - they can get it if they want it, and part of wanting it is because they're not allowed it.
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And the age limit needs to be dropped - they can get it if they want it, and part of wanting it is because they're not allowed it.
By the same token they can get cocaine and heroin if they want though i'm not sure a change in legislation is needed.

They need to be stricter on underage drinking imo. Not sure what route they should take mind, be it fining parents or those fairly pointless ASBOs for the offenders?
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Re: Longer Drinking Hours

I'm looking forward to it, although I'm not sure if any of my usual haunts are getting an extended licence (the Evening Standard printed a full list but I haven't had time to check it properly).

Of course, numerous off-licences sell booze after 11pm anyway, and clubs sell drink until 3am anyway, so I doubt it'll make that much difference overall.
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Re: Longer Drinking Hours

Sorry, i wasn't clear - i meant it in the way of becoming more "continental" the age limit should be lowered and i never thought about what Horn said tbh, i didn't think about getting pissed until i was 15/16 anyway and thought this was normal. :)
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Re: Longer Drinking Hours

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By the same token they can get cocaine and heroin if they want though i'm not sure a change in legislation is needed.
There is a need, imo.
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On what level are ASBO's 'pointless'? They may be wrong and inappropriate on many levels but I'm not sure pointless is a term I'd use.

Also, from what I recall you can drink from a very young age (legally) in this country. The issue would seem to be selling alcohol to children and public displays of "anti-social behaviour" caused by public drinking.
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Re: Longer Drinking Hours

You can drink with your parents from any age I believe, you can drink alcohol in a restaurant from the age of 16 and of course by it at 18, although anyone who waits until 18 until they buy there first pint of first bottle of vodka isnt
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We always find somewhere to drink when most pubs stop serving at 11. It just means we'll get to stay out of the cold a bit longer, and maybe not end up going to random scary places just for a drink :/
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More drunken 15 year olds to rape.........errr shag in the dark of the night
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even if they said yes it might still be rape
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not if you use rophynol, then they cant remember so you get away with it.
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Re: Longer Drinking Hours

how long were they allowed to open before that law got changed? most places around here close around 1-2 am, not because they have to, but because people usually dont stay any longer.
(but then, i probably live in the most depressed area in the whole world. i would guess that even north korea has a more interesting nightlive :/)
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just as George Best enters his 'final hours' too
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It's a great policy despite having no evidence to support it's objectives and no public backing.
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Those lockins sound fun, although we have them here too, but that means that on weekdays when the pub closes at 0400 I stay with a couple of friends and a lot of staff untill the first bakery opens
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Re: Longer Drinking Hours

The assholes will still go out and be assholes and the sensible people or those just wanting a good time will still do their own thing. Drink doesnt make you a bad person but it can bring out the inner wanker in you. We need to get over the fact that some people are just born shitheads
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Re: Longer Drinking Hours

pub i work at is open an extra hour thursday-sunday now, which is just ****ing shit as it means i wont get home til 1am.

on the whole tho i support the bill, shouldnt be up to government to decide when someone can go to the pub, should be up to the landlord and local community when to open.
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Well one of it's objectives is pretty much guaranteed (i.e. places will stay open longer). There is also some public support, and most people who seem against it are boring shits anyway so who cares.
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Re: Longer Drinking Hours

I'm looking forward to this, means I can stay in a pub for longer before being forced into a club. Hopefully less of a rush on the taxis when we do leave as well.

Seems a strange time of year to bring this in though. With all the Christmas parties and New Year coming up I would guess loads of people are going to get bladdered which will just give the papers more ammunition to attack the legislation with. If it had been early on in the year or summer I would imagine then it would have just fitted in more seamlessly.
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Re: Longer Drinking Hours

Went out last night, the club was serving till 4:30am and opened straight through till 6...

instead of causing trouble like the pensioners on the news complain about, it saved a lot of trouble as anyone who just wanted to have a good night, went home at usual times anyways, only the proper binge drinkers stayed till 6 (i left at 440ish so was in between ) and there wasnt enough people left apparently for there to be any trouble at closing time...

Just means that theres less fights, less queues for taxis, but the muppets who get so slaughtered that they end up in hospital end up in hospital anyways...


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I'm not really sure how many people could drink unti 4-5am solidly and still be willing/capable of fighting anyway.
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Re: Longer Drinking Hours

these new laws will not bring us anywhere near to the continental drinking culture. Mainly because many young people dont want that to happen. Personally i would welcome a more continental approach to drinking. Some of my friends raised an interesting point, perhaps if parents invited their children to have a drink with their meal, at a young age(likein europe) then these children will not see binge drinking at 16 as an act of rebellion, which I think is major cause of why we have this culture we do now. If drinking alcohol wasn't seen as such rebellious act, then perhaps young teenagers would not binge drink as much as they do.
I have been to france for the past 6 years, and have loved the cafe culture they have over there. Life is very realxed. 12 year olds are being taughthow to appreciate things such as wine and food, and you can see the impact this has on them later on, ie a lack of binge drinking. I'm not saying France is perfect (ie regarding the recent mass riots) but I do believe they have certain things off to a tee. At the minute I am at university, and i can guarantee you that these new drinking laws will only make the problem worse. the funny thing is the pubs/clubs also realise this, with only 300 pubs/clubs succesfully applying for the new opening times.
Young people need to be shown that they can have fun without having to get pissed.
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when you are 16 and are allowed to drink, you get out and get wasted. i dont think thats particularly british. i did it and everyone i know did too. Once you have become older you just stop drinking that excessively, no harm done.
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I never said it was just a british problem. Also, why did you pick 16. You can drink in your own house whenever you want to. By law you have to 18 to buy alcohol. you say you grow out of it when you older. i don't know where your from, but you only have to watch the news or go on a night out, and you can clearly see its just not younger people. Also, you say when you turn 16 you go out and get wasted. Why?
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Also, you say when you turn 16 you go out and get wasted. Why?
I think that's the legal age in Germany, and he's from there.
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I never said it was just a british problem. Also, why did you pick 16. You can drink in your own house whenever you want to. By law you have to 18 to buy alcohol. you say you grow out of it when you older. i don't know where your from, but you only have to watch the news or go on a night out, and you can clearly see its just not younger people. Also, you say when you turn 16 you go out and get wasted. Why?
well, here you have to be 16 to buy beer, wine, etc and 18 for vodka, whisky and so on), so legally you can only get alcohol when you are 16 or older. Come to think of it, we started drinking at around 14-15, just because we were not supposed to.
as for the why, the same reason a lot of people take some drugs at least once in their lives. it's that whole rebellion-thing you menitoned earlier. sooner or later people grow out of it.
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I enjoy getting drunk. I rarely get three sheets to the wind plastered these days, usually it'll be slightly accidental if I do (as in I'll have forgotten to eat that day or I'll have been awake for too long). I've nicked a few fire extinguishers and bus stops in my day but nothing to get that flustered about.
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