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Unread 4 Apr 2015, 09:14   #1
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This time of the round

This time of the round asks for an update on politics/wars/naps.
I think the usual suspects who start these threads are on easterholidays, so ill go for it!

Any news?
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Re: This time of the round

BF has decided to break their allie with Titans.
Apparently Titans took easter break aswell, and havnt been reachable for comments
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Re: This time of the round

BB`s first bashfree post of the round..is it?
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BB`s first bashfree post of the round..is it?
Yeah i am the Bashfree-Butch3r.

[00:06] * Krazzle ([email protected]) Quit (G-lined (AUTO [5] Automatically banned for excessive connections))
[00:06] * @[BlackFlag] ([email protected][BlackFlag].users.netgamers.org) Quit (G-lined (AUTO [5] Automatically banned for excessive connections))
[00:06] * Alysea ([email protected]) Quit (G-lined (AUTO [5] Automatically banned for excessive connections))
[00:06] * RizZo ([email protected]) Quit (G-lined (AUTO [5] Automatically banned for excessive connections))

The Titans tag was spotted over at the house of the BF alliance bot earlier.
Perhaps they are camping out easter over there?
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Unread 5 Apr 2015, 14:51   #6
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Re: This time of the round

Well now, this is just becoming amusing. I won't even bother to comment on that after this, we are investigating and co-operating fully to solve the issue. Also, if you'd have a date on those, you'd see that they're not even from this round. All evidence has been provided and afaik, all actions have also been taken according to proper proof and not just some people bad mouthing us. One might also note that there was a lot more g-lines that day than just those.

What comes to politics, can't give you much news as we are following BBs orders.
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One might also note that there was a lot more g-lines that day than just those..
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This one you aiming towards or?
I dunno what good that makes your case
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Re: This time of the round

so... more cherry picking it is then. And still has nothing to do with the topic.
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so... more cherry picking it is then. And still has nothing to do with the topic.
No-no, it does have something to do with the topic.
Apparently BF broke up the allie with Titans, yet no reason has been given to this sudden change of friendship
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Re: This time of the round

Deals can break for various reasons, now there's obvious reasons... if you need me to explain that, I might need to explain a lot of other obvious things as well, like water is wet and fire is hot etc.
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Deals can break for various reasons, now there's obvious reasons... if you need me to explain that, I might need to explain a lot of other obvious things as well, like water is wet and fire is hot etc.
Well please explain why the deal was set into place in the first place, and why it was broken up so suddently
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Re: This time of the round

NoXiouS what ever happend to "The Commander of Battlestar Galactica" ?
It seems to me it left BF tag some ticks ago, and suddently the planet seems to be idle?
Wonder if anyone can shed a light on who is the owner of this planet... Anyone?
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NoXiouS what ever happend to "The Commander of Battlestar Galactica" ?
It seems to me it left BF tag some ticks ago, and suddently the planet seems to be idle?
Wonder if anyone can shed a light on who is the owner of this planet... Anyone?
Its not my planet if that helps
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No planet has left BF tag in over a week as far as I can see.
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Re: This time of the round

This planet was closed alongside the titans bot.
Apparently this planet is Clouds.
Guess the bot cheat mystery is solved, and BF is found guilty of organized cheating.
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Funny because my planet is still active.
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Assuming bitcher hasn't made this stuff up and someone has been closed for cheating, why bother because in such a small universe you're always going to get found out and if you want a top 50 planet it can be achieved with even a half arsed attitude
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Funny because my planet is still active.
Well maybe you can shed some light on who it is?
As according to other intel it says the planet is owned by Clouds.
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Then your "intel" is wrong as I assure you that my planet is still active.
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Assuming bitcher hasn't made this stuff up and someone has been closed for cheating, why bother because in such a small universe you're always going to get found out and if you want a top 50 planet it can be achieved with even a half arsed attitude
I could make accusations on the forums too, it doesn't make it true. It's up to the idiots who reads this stuff whether they're gullible or not.

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Then your "intel" is wrong as I assure you that my planet is still active.
Well its not my intel, matter a fact another alliance intel.
Then who is this BF member who got closed alongside the bots?
Yet again BF fail to deliver the information so that the MHs could track down the guilty person.
20 ex BF planets/curent BF planets has been closed.
Yet your HC team seems to have no clue who they are, or who let them in. In the past you have had a vouch only recruitment, isnt that correct?
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Have you got proof it's BF or are you speculating once again.
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Have you got proof it's BF or are you speculating once again.
You know aswell as i do its BF, unless you want to deny it, and me giving other people proof of it ofc.
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You've been doing that anyway. And you don't have any proof, you have a log of [BlackFlag] being G-lined at the same time as other suspected "bots" which occurred before this round. If that's your proof, then you're an idiot.
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You've been doing that anyway. And you don't have any proof, you have a log of [BlackFlag] being G-lined at the same time as other suspected "bots" which occurred before this round. If that's your proof, then you're an idiot.
RiZZo - ex BF/Titans - 3:3:8 - CLOSED
Dave99 - ex BF/Titans - 4:7:4 - CLOSED
Rutix - Titans - 7:1:8 - CLOSED
Sunflower - ex BF/Titans - 200:2:1 - CLOSED
Equalizer - Titans - 200:2:2 - CLOSED
Dobby - ex BF/Titans - 200:3:1 - CLOSED
Ravana - ex BF/Titans - 200:3:2 - CLOSED
FalconSpy - ex BF/Titans - 200:5:3 - CLOSED
Pixelz - ex BF/Titans - 200:7:3 - CLOSED
Timmy - ex BF/Titans - 200:13:1 - CLOSED
Alysea - ex BF/Titans - 200:14:2 - CLOSED
Diego - ex BF/Titans - 200:17:2 - CLOSED
Krazzle - ex BF/Bows - CLOSED
Macwolf - ex BF - 200:7:4 - CLOSED
Demp - ex BF/Titans - 1:4:3 - CLOSED
unkown - Titans - 7:4:5 - CLOSED
unkown - Titans - 200:16:3 - CLOSED
Clouds? - BF - 6:7:1 - CLOSED

So how come all these planets have so much in common Clouds?
And how come they share the same connection as the BlackFlag alliance bot?
Why was a tag full of bots allied to BF ingame earlier this round?

Ofc you have the incident R58 where a bot planet took out the intel from the RainbowS bot at the same time it was added to the Black-Flag bot, meanwhile he was crashing his entire fleet at two BF HCs. Ofc that was also random accusation, because everybody just seem to hate BF for no reason.

Adding up the other 9 planets thats also were closed, but not directly linked to BF.

If one asks all these questions to any of the BF HCs, they got no answers that remotely makes sense
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Your retardedness is quite entertaining. Please do continue with your investigation, I'm actually quite intrigued. Better yet, why not apply to MHs? I'm sure Ace + co would love you to join.

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because everybody just seem to hate BF for no reason.
Again, stop talking for the whole community, it's only you that hates BF.

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Your retardedness is quite entertaining. Please do continue with your investigation, I'm actually quite intrigued. Better yet, why not apply to MHs? I'm sure Ace + co would love you to join.
Haha, im quite intrigued myself with how low its actual possibole to go.
Why dont you just explain the actual facts wich just have been presented?
Im quite sure that could keep everyone entertained for a long, long time.

Sure i would perhaps apply if i wasnt playing myself, as MHs aint allowed to play while they are hunting.
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Re: This time of the round

As much as I dislike Butcher and his retardedness, whenever this stuff comes up it does seem to be with someone within the BF alliance being involved or accused.

I would like to make sure you are aware I'm not making accusations or anything. If there is someone doing it then I just want to say it's ruining the game for others and that it's pretty pathetic that if people feel the need to cheat in this game then they need to find meaning to their lives. If this is occurring then whoever it is has no place in this community
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It was your fellow HC who said there was so much hate for BF, thats why they made you look guilty
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Haha, im quite intrigued myself with how low its actual possibole to go.
Why dont you just explain the actual facts wich just have been presented?
Because if history has taught us anything it's that arguing with logic is pointless with you (and I'm sure I'm not the only one to think this). I can present our side of the story, but it'll be pointless because you refuse to accept any sort of logic or opinion or facts as you are obviously always right 100% of the time.

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As much as I dislike Butcher and his retardedness, whenever this stuff comes up it does seem to be with someone within the BF alliance being involved or accused.
Maybe because it's bitcher that does the accusing.
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Because if history has taught us anything it's that arguing with logic is pointless with you (and I'm sure I'm not the only one to think this). I can present our side of the story, but it'll be pointless because you are always biased in your arguments, and you are always right, 100% of the time.
Then give me one person outside BF who actualy belives your side of the story(wich you aint willing to present)?
Cant you just answer the questions that were asked, not for me, but atleast for the rest of the community
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All that matters is actual evidence, and you sir do not have any real evidence, otherwise MHs would've closed the person responsible.

Have fun in your investigation.
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All that matters is actual evidence, and you sir do not have any real evidence, otherwise MHs would've closed the person responsible.

Have fun in your investigation.
So all we need to know then, a lot of BF bots were closed, and the person responsible remains open. Thank you. Im sure everyone else now will be convinced that you have no ties to this
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No, I'm saying that you have no real evidence to base your accusations on. It's circumstantial at best.

I'm getting bored of this now, so if anyone wants to discuss this privately, feel free to contact me.
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He hasn't been the only player to make these suggestions. Others have said it, maybe not quite so publicly or vigorously. It's not good for the game, nor the soul. If there is anything untoward going on, then these people should go elsewhere.
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Again, please stop presuming 'rumours' to be fact. Accusations are accusations, and facts are facts. If any of these accusations were indeed factual, then the accused would've been closed.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bitcher fabricated this whole thing just to put a bad light on the alliance that he hates dearly.
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Are you denying the closure of the planets, or the fact they are linked to BlackFlag?
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I wouldn't be surprised if Bitcher fabricated this whole thing just to put a bad light on the alliance that he hates dearly.
As much as I'm the first to laugh at Butcher's mania when it comes to BF, this is just as ridiculous a suggestion. Come on, don't lower yourself to his standards!
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Again, please stop presuming 'rumours' to be fact. Accusations are accusations, and facts are facts. If any of these accusations were indeed factual, then the accused would've been closed.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bitcher fabricated this whole thing just to put a bad light on the alliance that he hates dearly.
There would be NO rumours flying around if you, or any BF HCs would be willing to answer a few key questions.

A bot tag fillied with BF planets were closed. Thats a fact.
BF were allied ingame to this tag. Thats a fact.
The BF allie bot shared connections with these bot. Thats a fact.
Numerous other BF planets were closed aswell, some of them tried to infiltrate CT/BowS and prolly many more allies preround, but was stopped because we have know about this scam for quite some time. Thats a fact.

Ive reported around 30 planets this round thats been closed, its not a random occurence im trying to blame on anyone. I got another 10 planets i could aswell said belonged to you, but without a obvious connection i wont.
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So who was in charge of Titans?
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Because if history has taught us anything it's that arguing with logic is pointless with you (and I'm sure I'm not the only one to think this). I can present our side of the story, but it'll be pointless because you refuse to accept any sort of logic or opinion or facts as you are obviously always right 100% of the time.
I can understand why you might not want to discuss this with BB, but please do share your side of the story regarding these (somwhat suspicious) planets with the rest of us.

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Re: This time of the round

From my point of view, some of them were in BF last round as defense/support planets, but as we were going to take a more active role this round they were removed to make room for more active players. I presume they joined Titans and have been closed for defending BF, as support planets out of tag are illegal.

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Yes they were BF defence/support planets last round, and yes, they were removed to make room for _REAL_ players.
They joined titans and many other tags, and they wernt closed for defending BF out of tag.
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Your retardedness is quite entertaining. Please do continue with your investigation, I'm actually quite intrigued. Better yet, why not apply to MHs? I'm sure Ace + co would love you to join.



Again, stop talking for the whole community, it's only you that hates BF.
Nah, we all despise BF Clouds
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Yes they were BF defence/support planets last round, and yes, they were removed to make room for _REAL_ players.
They joined titans and many other tags, and they wernt closed for defending BF out of tag.
For what it's worth BB, our intel said Clouds was 6.7.1 also.
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Re: This time of the round

Looks pretty damning to me.

Apparently fl are knees deep in this too, and of course ult. I'd be interested to hear why the people complaining in this thread didn't seem to mind when app/ult were outed for it.

I think all these alliances can pretty much consider their victories to be at best tainted, if not outright empty. I've yet to see any accusations thrown at p3n. Is there a reason for that, or is their HCs conspicuous absence of comment just a coincidence?
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Looks pretty damning to me.

Apparently fl are knees deep in this too, and of course ult. I'd be interested to hear why the people complaining in this thread didn't seem to mind when app/ult were outed for it.

I think all these alliances can pretty much consider their victories to be at best tainted, if not outright empty. I've yet to see any accusations thrown at p3n. Is there a reason for that, or is their HCs conspicuous absence of comment just a coincidence?
We are what now?
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I daren't think of the carnage in your HC channel when the thought of merging VNCprime with ult came up.

To sully the name of such a valorous history.
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I daren't think of the carnage in your HC channel when the thought of merging VNCprime with ult came up.

To sully the name of such a valorous history.
I was the one who pushed for it, so it all went down fine pal!
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