User Name
Password

Go Back   Planetarion Forums > Planetarion Related Forums > Alliance Discussions

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 23 Apr 2016, 04:13   #451
Ashka
Guard Your Dogs
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 33
Ashka is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodyButcher View Post
http://pirate.planetarion.com/showthread.php?t=201105


Basicly i got banned for throwing unwarranted accusations.
Lokken/moderator had forgot/missed the previous supporting data/evidence from earlier, wich had been allreading gone one or two cycles in prior threads allready.
Poor moderatorship basicly.
Based on that how do you feel about Reaper being banned for 3 days?
__________________
Wolfpack
Ashka is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 23 Apr 2016, 12:12   #452
NoXiouS
Mordar, Keel, Reip
 
NoXiouS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Finland
Posts: 333
NoXiouS is just really niceNoXiouS is just really niceNoXiouS is just really niceNoXiouS is just really nice
Re: R66 who will win

Butcher: BF was being hit by ULT/Merc/CT/Bows/P3n/HR for a while, napped with ND/FL. Bows moved on to ND now with at least ULT/Merc, could be everyone else hitting ND too now, dunno, haven't asked. CT napped ULT, FL napped almost everyone, Bows napped almost everyone too. Have a look yourself: http://imgur.com/msNO05Z Basic PA round.
__________________
Wolf in a pirates clothing to the highest degree, standing behind the curtains.

All the war propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting. - George Orwell
NoXiouS is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 23 Apr 2016, 16:32   #453
DeeJay
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Emerald Dream
Posts: 116
DeeJay is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: R66 who will win

Long story short: the block failed to roid BF, BF is winning by a mile now, everyone else is trying to keep their members active for the remaining 2 weeks
DeeJay is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 23 Apr 2016, 16:34   #454
booji
a bucket
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chatham, UK
Posts: 1,065
booji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

... and attempting to avoid being roided into the ground by the vengeful BF
__________________
Proud to have been TGV!
aargh! died in Jenova! | idled in ROCK | disappointed in Audentes | been Roguish | p-p-previously a p-p-p3nguin
Ascendancy

Otterly an Otter.
booji is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 23 Apr 2016, 18:49   #455
Nitros
Internal Error
 
Nitros's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: the Netherlands
Posts: 696
Nitros is a splendid one to beholdNitros is a splendid one to beholdNitros is a splendid one to beholdNitros is a splendid one to beholdNitros is a splendid one to beholdNitros is a splendid one to beholdNitros is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

Funny, seems like nobody cares.
__________________
Nitros

[]LCH[] ..lets change history
Nitros is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 23 Apr 2016, 19:10   #456
booji
a bucket
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chatham, UK
Posts: 1,065
booji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

who would you expect to care? If there was not even enough care to be able to coordinate land times there is certainly not going to be much care now the block is over.
__________________
Proud to have been TGV!
aargh! died in Jenova! | idled in ROCK | disappointed in Audentes | been Roguish | p-p-previously a p-p-p3nguin
Ascendancy

Otterly an Otter.
booji is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 23 Apr 2016, 20:31   #457
BloodyButcher
Propaganda Chief
 
BloodyButcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,666
BloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud of
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoXiouS View Post
Butcher: BF was being hit by ULT/Merc/CT/Bows/P3n/HR for a while, napped with ND/FL. Bows moved on to ND now with at least ULT/Merc, could be everyone else hitting ND too now, dunno, haven't asked. CT napped ULT, FL napped almost everyone, Bows napped almost everyone too. Have a look yourself: http://imgur.com/msNO05Z Basic PA round.
so in short... Faceless is winning?
__________________
RainbowS

RB Ely MISTU Angel Fusi0n 1up ToF VisioN CT FAnG ROCK
BloodyButcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 24 Apr 2016, 13:43   #458
DeeJay
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Emerald Dream
Posts: 116
DeeJay is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodyButcher View Post
so in short... Faceless is winning?
Exactly! Your high IQ made you come to that conclusion?
DeeJay is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 24 Apr 2016, 13:47   #459
BloodyButcher
Propaganda Chief
 
BloodyButcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,666
BloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud of
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeJay View Post
Exactly! Your high IQ made you come to that conclusion?
FL NAPed everyone, and ND warring BowS who NAPed almost everyone except for ND apparently.
FL is getting the sweater deal here
__________________
RainbowS

RB Ely MISTU Angel Fusi0n 1up ToF VisioN CT FAnG ROCK
BloodyButcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 24 Apr 2016, 21:20   #460
fortran
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 517
fortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the rough
Re: R66 who will win

BB is talking about the fight for #2. #1 was decided two weeks ago.
__________________
mxy
fortran is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 00:38   #461
Joseph
Error
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 345
Joseph is just really niceJoseph is just really niceJoseph is just really niceJoseph is just really nice
Re: R66 who will win

the game turns into a "help me if u dont like them"...

so, FL dont help universe beat BF, bcoz they hate ULT too much...
ND dont help universe to stop BF, bcoz they hate ULT too much...
and in a war game, BF wins without having a single day of real troubles... im sure some lunatics will come and say "wtf joseph, we got 300 fleets a night" and i will answer, thats nothing... fleets means nothing, value does.. they used to make deals about number of launched fleets per wave, and thats crazy, bcoz if we combo 5 fleets, makes the same value from 1 big BF fleet.. so its not about fleets, but about the value u have to stop.. math...

so, going on... some will say. but bows was playing for ult.. well.. in a game were u have to pick ULT or NOTULT, its hard to stay away from this polarity... bows asked many alliances, many times, to help attack the fattest and biggest alliance around... and the answer was always. "if we do that, ult wins".. thats stupid. any other tag could win, if BF gone down.. not ult, not CT, maybe p3ng, fl, bows, nd.. but for fearing ULT win, they stop thinking about own tags, and play for others..

xoca, brazilian friend, said he hates ult so much, that was a great round just bcoz ult lost it.. patetic i can say.. and rap, said he prefer ct to win, but never ult... again, patetic.. so playing for another tag, means u cant do great and try a win... maybe, just maybe, u can end up with some nice ranks for players... but thats not the goal of the game... ofc only 1 can win.. but its a way better play with all tags atleast tryING to win...

the stats was stupid? i dont think so.. was a funny ofensive round. were ppl got roided, and had to go out attacking... dynamic round... with up and downs.. only thing im dissapointed is about ppl giving BF a win... just bcoz they hate ULT.. thats not a WIN, thats a BS round.. but i know BF for doing great politics, and the game is also about it.. so congratz.. im sure u have good core, played well, and diserve the trophy111
__________________
#braSilFTW
Joseph is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 02:16   #462
Paisley
The brother of Spammer
 
Paisley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Paisley - Scotland
Posts: 2,299
Paisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to all
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeJay View Post
Long story short: the block failed to roid BF, BF is winning by a mile now, everyone else is trying to keep their members active for the remaining 2 weeks
Ult has played a blinder of a round with exception of its politics.... hit too many alliances to get support.
__________________
Missing Subh (r15-r18)
Paisley is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 03:15   #463
fortran
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 517
fortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the rough
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paisley View Post
Ult has played a blinder of a round with exception of its politics.... hit too many alliances to get support.
Wasn't just CT?
__________________
mxy
fortran is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 05:30   #464
Paisley
The brother of Spammer
 
Paisley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Paisley - Scotland
Posts: 2,299
Paisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to all
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by fortran View Post
Wasn't just CT?

the alliance relations ingame function is a cracking thing.

I think ULT has warred with CT/FL/ND (I cant blame ULT for doing this for previous rounds transgretions)

the problem was chimpie did not read up on machiavelli's art of war in particular....

Men ought either to be indulged or utterly destroyed, for if you merely offend them they take vengeance, but if you injure them greatly they are unable to retaliate, so that the injury done to a man ought to be such that vengeance cannot be feared. Niccolo Machiavelli
__________________
Missing Subh (r15-r18)
Paisley is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 07:21   #465
booji
a bucket
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chatham, UK
Posts: 1,065
booji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paisley View Post
Men ought either to be indulged or utterly destroyed, for if you merely offend them they take vengeance, but if you injure them greatly they are unable to retaliate, so that the injury done to a man ought to be such that vengeance cannot be feared. Niccolo Machiavelli
How do you utterly destroy someone in a game in which there is always next round? It hardly need saying that some of the emnity towards ult is about previous rounds rather than this one. Edit: I should probably explain a little more; even if the HCs theoretically wipe the slate clean after each round (I don't know whether this is the case or not) members don't and HCs are influenced by what their member base wants to do.

There were other problems for ult in forming a block that you are not considering; with ult at first and most likely to gain from taking down BF why should anyone help them? Normally the incentive of roids and xp is pretty good but this time ult was launching after everyone else to try get those for itself. Moreover normally the auxiliaries can calculate that they won't be hit back, not the case this time where ult was a terrible target. And lo it is p3n and bows that are taking bows hit backs now that the block has collapsed.
__________________
Proud to have been TGV!
aargh! died in Jenova! | idled in ROCK | disappointed in Audentes | been Roguish | p-p-previously a p-p-p3nguin
Ascendancy

Otterly an Otter.

Last edited by booji; 25 Apr 2016 at 07:33.
booji is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 09:14   #466
Paisley
The brother of Spammer
 
Paisley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Paisley - Scotland
Posts: 2,299
Paisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to allPaisley is a name known to all
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by booji View Post
How do you utterly destroy someone in a game in which there is always next round? It hardly need saying that some of the emnity towards ult is about previous rounds rather than this one. Edit: I should probably explain a little more; even if the HCs theoretically wipe the slate clean after each round (I don't know whether this is the case or not) members don't and HCs are influenced by what their member base wants to do.

There were other problems for ult in forming a block that you are not considering; with ult at first and most likely to gain from taking down BF why should anyone help them? Normally the incentive of roids and xp is pretty good but this time ult was launching after everyone else to try get those for itself. Moreover normally the auxiliaries can calculate that they won't be hit back, not the case this time where ult was a terrible target. And lo it is p3n and bows that are taking bows hit backs now that the block has collapsed.
Frankly It is not my problem, what im saying that slightly injuring 3-4 alliances this round is not the best strategy
__________________
Missing Subh (r15-r18)
Paisley is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 10:41   #467
CBA
Mind-boggling
 
CBA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Devon, England
Posts: 1,424
CBA is infamous around these partsCBA is infamous around these partsCBA is infamous around these partsCBA is infamous around these partsCBA is infamous around these partsCBA is infamous around these parts
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
the game turns into a "help me if u dont like them"...

so, FL dont help universe beat BF, bcoz they hate ULT too much...
ND dont help universe to stop BF, bcoz they hate ULT too much...
and in a war game, BF wins without having a single day of real troubles... im sure some lunatics will come and say "wtf joseph, we got 300 fleets a night" and i will answer, thats nothing... fleets means nothing, value does.. they used to make deals about number of launched fleets per wave, and thats crazy, bcoz if we combo 5 fleets, makes the same value from 1 big BF fleet.. so its not about fleets, but about the value u have to stop.. math...

so, going on... some will say. but bows was playing for ult.. well.. in a game were u have to pick ULT or NOTULT, its hard to stay away from this polarity... bows asked many alliances, many times, to help attack the fattest and biggest alliance around... and the answer was always. "if we do that, ult wins".. thats stupid. any other tag could win, if BF gone down.. not ult, not CT, maybe p3ng, fl, bows, nd.. but for fearing ULT win, they stop thinking about own tags, and play for others..

xoca, brazilian friend, said he hates ult so much, that was a great round just bcoz ult lost it.. patetic i can say.. and rap, said he prefer ct to win, but never ult... again, patetic.. so playing for another tag, means u cant do great and try a win... maybe, just maybe, u can end up with some nice ranks for players... but thats not the goal of the game... ofc only 1 can win.. but its a way better play with all tags atleast tryING to win...

the stats was stupid? i dont think so.. was a funny ofensive round. were ppl got roided, and had to go out attacking... dynamic round... with up and downs.. only thing im dissapointed is about ppl giving BF a win... just bcoz they hate ULT.. thats not a WIN, thats a BS round.. but i know BF for doing great politics, and the game is also about it.. so congratz.. im sure u have good core, played well, and diserve the trophy111

very good lost Joseph

I agree with all of that
__________________
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. (Winston Churchill)

R21-Randy Dandys Winners R21
1:9:5 -SoClose- -YetSoFar-

You have pending friend requests from Newt.
CBA is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 13:47   #468
BloodyButcher
Propaganda Chief
 
BloodyButcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,666
BloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud of
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
the game turns into a "help me if u dont like them"...

so, FL dont help universe beat BF, bcoz they hate ULT too much...
ND dont help universe to stop BF, bcoz they hate ULT too much...
and in a war game, BF wins without having a single day of real troubles... im sure some lunatics will come and say "wtf joseph, we got 300 fleets a night" and i will answer, thats nothing... fleets means nothing, value does.. they used to make deals about number of launched fleets per wave, and thats crazy, bcoz if we combo 5 fleets, makes the same value from 1 big BF fleet.. so its not about fleets, but about the value u have to stop.. math...

so, going on... some will say. but bows was playing for ult.. well.. in a game were u have to pick ULT or NOTULT, its hard to stay away from this polarity... bows asked many alliances, many times, to help attack the fattest and biggest alliance around... and the answer was always. "if we do that, ult wins".. thats stupid. any other tag could win, if BF gone down.. not ult, not CT, maybe p3ng, fl, bows, nd.. but for fearing ULT win, they stop thinking about own tags, and play for others..

xoca, brazilian friend, said he hates ult so much, that was a great round just bcoz ult lost it.. patetic i can say.. and rap, said he prefer ct to win, but never ult... again, patetic.. so playing for another tag, means u cant do great and try a win... maybe, just maybe, u can end up with some nice ranks for players... but thats not the goal of the game... ofc only 1 can win.. but its a way better play with all tags atleast tryING to win...

the stats was stupid? i dont think so.. was a funny ofensive round. were ppl got roided, and had to go out attacking... dynamic round... with up and downs.. only thing im dissapointed is about ppl giving BF a win... just bcoz they hate ULT.. thats not a WIN, thats a BS round.. but i know BF for doing great politics, and the game is also about it.. so congratz.. im sure u have good core, played well, and diserve the trophy111
Everyone does not have to TRY to win.
But "kingmaking"/"supporting" another tag for no reason at all, even if it will cost your own planets ranks, might be kind of destructive in rounds like this.
Instead of making sure "teh blockers" target BF, ND is yet again trying to destroy their own planets by being stupid, by the looks of it.

From a outsiders view this round, a few alliances out there seemed to decide just not to care this round, and going for XP after looking at the stats.
BF decided to go for a slow and steady strategy, and managed to get the usual suspect ND, and FL on their side to secure themself they couldnt be touched.
__________________
RainbowS

RB Ely MISTU Angel Fusi0n 1up ToF VisioN CT FAnG ROCK
BloodyButcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 13:51   #469
SDN
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 77
SDN is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: R66 who will win

Joseph, you had on your side in the block:

Ultores/Mercenaries/Rainbows/P3nguins/HowlingRain and for the last two days also Conspiracy all hitting BlackFlag.

Yes, Blackflag grounded and had like 5-6 active dcs who scanned and prelaunched defence.

You got owned, but thats not because you did not have the fleets or value upperhand. You both outvalued and outfleeted your opponent, it was simply because your alliance is not a good enough war machine.

The Rainbows attacks was pathetic at best.

So start fixing things where you can, inside your own ranks.
You are angry at Faceless and Newdawn for not joining in, never have you or never will you see a block consisting of every organised alliance playing the game as you wanted this time.

This block was as big as any other major block in the last 5-6 rounds.
__________________
Skydivenaked

Recent rounds:
Round 68 - #1 Gal Rank #6 planet
Round 67 - #1 Gal
Round 65 - Rank #3 Norsemen
Round 61 - Rank #37 Faceless
Round 60 - Rank #14 Ultores
Round 58 - Rank #35 Allieless xp play
Round 56 - Rank #14 Vikings
Round 54 - Rank #5 Vikings
SDN is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 14:08   #470
fortran
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 517
fortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the rough
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDN View Post
You got owned, but thats not because you did not have the fleets or value upperhand. You both outvalued and outfleeted your opponent, it was simply because your alliance is not a good enough war machine.
I was told a regular BF planet could easily self-cover against a 7 ultores planets fi wave. Correct me if I am wrong, but having ships is part of the requirements to be considered a war machine. BF is not the ultimate defense force, BF has a very good defense, but if it bled at most 5% per day it is not because it exceeded its own capacity but because the lack of value compensated for the quantity.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDN View Post
The Rainbows attacks was pathetic at best.
Bows is the only other race focused on CR for attack. BF had its scarabs only for Bows. And you built a considerable value in scarabs since you had already dealt with Bows aggression and were expecting more. So it was expected that you felt it was easy to block Bows incs. I feel the same when I see CT incs.
__________________
mxy
fortran is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 14:40   #471
Wouter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 357
Wouter is a jewel in the roughWouter is a jewel in the roughWouter is a jewel in the roughWouter is a jewel in the rough
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by booji View Post
How do you utterly destroy someone in a game in which there is always next round? It hardly need saying that some of the emnity towards ult is about previous rounds rather than this one. Edit: I should probably explain a little more; even if the HCs theoretically wipe the slate clean after each round (I don't know whether this is the case or not) members don't and HCs are influenced by what their member base wants to do.

There were other problems for ult in forming a block that you are not considering; with ult at first and most likely to gain from taking down BF why should anyone help them? Normally the incentive of roids and xp is pretty good but this time ult was launching after everyone else to try get those for itself. Moreover normally the auxiliaries can calculate that they won't be hit back, not the case this time where ult was a terrible target. And lo it is p3n and bows that are taking bows hit backs now that the block has collapsed.
Ult was either launching at the given landticks or before and after them, since we did 2 raids. Anything else you been told is pretty much bollocks.
Wouter is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 17:59   #472
booji
a bucket
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chatham, UK
Posts: 1,065
booji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

As a scanner I have not been told anything, it was an observation from jgps Which of course means you may have launched, recalled and relaunched before I noticed (or perhaps your second raid is simply the better attended). Either way there seems to have been a lack of block coordination which as the primary with the main incentive really comes down to Ult. It is certainly hard to believe that "Ultores/Mercenaries/Rainbows/P3nguins/HowlingRain and for the last two days also Conspiracy" were all hitting BF in a coordinated fashion and only managed to knock a couple of thousand roids a day off BF. (surely that should be around 400 fleets given ult and ct both 3 fleeting?) Finally there seems to have been a problem with durability given how short a time it lasted but this could have been caused by any of the alliances.
__________________
Proud to have been TGV!
aargh! died in Jenova! | idled in ROCK | disappointed in Audentes | been Roguish | p-p-previously a p-p-p3nguin
Ascendancy

Otterly an Otter.

Last edited by booji; 25 Apr 2016 at 18:09.
booji is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 18:15   #473
BloodyButcher
Propaganda Chief
 
BloodyButcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,666
BloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud of
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by booji View Post
It is certainly hard to believe that "Ultores/Mercenaries/Rainbows/P3nguins/HowlingRain and for the last two days also Conspiracy" were all hitting BF in a coordinated fashion and only managed to knock a couple of thousand roids a day off BF. (surely that should be around 400 fleets given ult and ct both 3 fleeting?) Finally there seems to have been a problem with durability given how short a time it lasted but this could have been caused by any of the alliances.
well according to mxy

Quote:
Originally Posted by fortran View Post
I was told a regular BF planet could easily self-cover against a 7 ultores planets fi wave.
So with 60 regular BF planets, it would take take over 7 ultores tags just to start breaking through EMP/Kill or what not.
Its not that hard to belive.
__________________
RainbowS

RB Ely MISTU Angel Fusi0n 1up ToF VisioN CT FAnG ROCK
BloodyButcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 18:36   #474
booji
a bucket
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chatham, UK
Posts: 1,065
booji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

Except that six tags were mentioned; the total values of those tags is 528million, almost two and a half times BFs value. Even assuming perfect DCing getting on for half of incs should be going through if the coalition is all launching together. The only conclusions are a, alliances involved were half-hearted or b, they were badly organised and coordinated (or Skydivenaked is exaggerating and there were not really 6 alliances involved ).
__________________
Proud to have been TGV!
aargh! died in Jenova! | idled in ROCK | disappointed in Audentes | been Roguish | p-p-previously a p-p-p3nguin
Ascendancy

Otterly an Otter.
booji is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 18:42   #475
fortran
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 517
fortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the rough
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by BloodyButcher View Post
So with 60 regular BF planets, it would take take over 7 ultores tags just to start breaking through EMP/Kill or what not.
Its not that hard to belive.
Intel shows around 15 xans which would be easy targets and primary targets of the fi waves and around 25 caths which would take many fleets to break emp. The xans, many defwhores, are in the bottom of the top 60. So where those allies could do most harm was where BF would feel the least.

Quote:
Originally Posted by booji View Post
Either way there seems to have been a lack of block coordination
My impression is that several times when one alliance agreed to hit BF, it ended up putting some or all of its force somewhere else. for example, I noticed the night all alliances were supposed to be hitting BF, CT got heavily roided.
__________________
mxy
fortran is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 18:45   #476
Munkee
Dictator
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 634
Munkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDN View Post

You got owned,
Talking of owned, good job on being BF's best crasher.
__________________
Telegram#planetarion https://t.me/joinchat/A5Y_KUOSd7DQQgYL0051pQ
Telegram: @munkee | https://telegram.me/munkee
p3nguins alliance public telegram channel https://t.me/p3nguins
Munkee is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 18:47   #477
BloodyButcher
Propaganda Chief
 
BloodyButcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,666
BloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud of
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by booji View Post
Except that six tags were mentioned; the total values of those tags is 528million, almost two and a half times BFs value. Even assuming perfect DCing getting on for half of incs should be going through if the coalition is all launching together. The only conclusions are a, alliances involved were half-hearted or b, they were badly organised and coordinated (or Skydivenaked is exaggerating and there were not really 6 alliances involved ).
Well by math:

you need 7 Ult tags + CT to even start breaking through selfcover.
And im sure that not all of BFs fleet value is in ship that targets CT/Ults FI(?).
Basicly 6 alliances isnt enough, if the block ahd 12-14 alliances they would been able to roid BF.
__________________
RainbowS

RB Ely MISTU Angel Fusi0n 1up ToF VisioN CT FAnG ROCK
BloodyButcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 19:03   #478
booji
a bucket
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chatham, UK
Posts: 1,065
booji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

The average value of an ult xan is 1192.9k. Since they are almost entirely made of fi that is going to be 200-250k fi each. If p3n intel is correct they have 54 xans so lets say 11,880k fi. This needs 2.9mil beets to emp or 2.8mil clips. Lets presume half of each that is 41mil value to kill Ult’s fleets. To do this 7 times over would require 287mil value in anti fi. With BF having only 193mil value your math is a bit suspect. Of course in the case of clipps you wont need to kill all that value so it might just about be possible. But then what do you do about the other alliance's ships that are not Fi? We are talking about a ST round; BF surely only have at most a third of their total value in anti fi.

Edit: But yes I agree with fortran there were conga lines on the xans which as you say were expendable. As a result there was probably a lot more value free to fight of the waves there were on the value cats and ziks. This however too means there was poor coordination.
__________________
Proud to have been TGV!
aargh! died in Jenova! | idled in ROCK | disappointed in Audentes | been Roguish | p-p-previously a p-p-p3nguin
Ascendancy

Otterly an Otter.

Last edited by booji; 25 Apr 2016 at 19:14.
booji is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 19:25   #479
Joseph
Error
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 345
Joseph is just really niceJoseph is just really niceJoseph is just really niceJoseph is just really nice
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDN View Post
Joseph, you had on your side in the block:

Ultores/Mercenaries/Rainbows/P3nguins/HowlingRain and for the last two days also Conspiracy all hitting BlackFlag.

Yes, Blackflag grounded and had like 5-6 active dcs who scanned and prelaunched defence.

You got owned, but thats not because you did not have the fleets or value upperhand. You both outvalued and outfleeted your opponent, it was simply because your alliance is not a good enough war machine.

The Rainbows attacks was pathetic at best.

So start fixing things where you can, inside your own ranks.
You are angry at Faceless and Newdawn for not joining in, never have you or never will you see a block consisting of every organised alliance playing the game as you wanted this time.

This block was as big as any other major block in the last 5-6 rounds.
Ok... U want me to believe that bows (yes ppl, bows) was the one to lead something against BF? U must be kiding me right?
The universe was all waiting some1 to take down Bf, no1 did it.
And bows (yes ppl, the good bows we all know) was hitting 3 planets from BF only, and couldnt make more then 3 waves, plus, no more then 5 fleets each wave.

So tell us bows was pwned is kinda, well, patetic... We have plenty new players, and never, ever planned to be top contender...

And please, dont compare this mediocre block with the other ones... I scanned all BF planets... Peng never launched many fleets, hr did better then them... Ct claimed and what? Sent a few dumbass fleets??? Ult was the one pushing hard, and bows, well, we r doing great imho... Better then many others old and great war machines alliances...
__________________
#braSilFTW
Joseph is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 19:36   #480
booji
a bucket
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chatham, UK
Posts: 1,065
booji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by SDN View Post
The Rainbows attacks was pathetic at best.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
bows was hitting 3 planets from BF only, and couldnt make more then 3 waves, plus, no more then 5 fleets each wave.
So 45 fleets?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
Peng never launched many fleets
We were sending our usual 60 odd, not great for an alliance that is supposedly an attacking alliance but hardly a disaster.
__________________
Proud to have been TGV!
aargh! died in Jenova! | idled in ROCK | disappointed in Audentes | been Roguish | p-p-previously a p-p-p3nguin
Ascendancy

Otterly an Otter.
booji is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 19:57   #481
fortran
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 517
fortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the rough
Re: R66 who will win

I think as many in Bows focused on amps rather than dists, the lack of ability to fake fleets worked in favor of BF too. 45 fleets was all of the Cr fleets available.
__________________
mxy
fortran is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 20:02   #482
ReaperSix
Anti-Paperboy
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 174
ReaperSix is just really niceReaperSix is just really niceReaperSix is just really niceReaperSix is just really niceReaperSix is just really nice
Re: R66 who will win

I'M BAAAACK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
Peng never launched many fleets)
We some nights hit just BF some we hit a mixed bag.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
And bows (yes ppl, the good bows we all know) was hitting 3 planets from BF only, and couldnt make more then 3 waves, plus, no more then 5 fleets each wave.
Even on our mixed bag nights we hit more BF than that. Maybe you should look inward before you complain to everyone else.
ReaperSix is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 20:06   #483
Munkee
Dictator
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 634
Munkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by booji View Post
So 45 fleets?

We were sending our usual 60 odd, not great for an alliance that is supposedly an attacking alliance but hardly a disaster.
Joseph went all emo because he did jgp on targets before we even launched. Classic failure. Even bows hc had to lol at his attempts to whine at what we were doing. Joseph spends more time on ult raids so I guess he is best placed to comment on those but no one elses.
__________________
Telegram#planetarion https://t.me/joinchat/A5Y_KUOSd7DQQgYL0051pQ
Telegram: @munkee | https://telegram.me/munkee
p3nguins alliance public telegram channel https://t.me/p3nguins
Munkee is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 21:17   #484
lokken
BlueTuba
 
lokken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 6,306
lokken has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.lokken has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.lokken has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.lokken has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.lokken has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.lokken has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.lokken has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.lokken has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.lokken has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.lokken has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.lokken has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.
Re: R66 who will win

Round isn't quite mathematically over yet but if it goes as expected then the call to hit BF was too little too late given that they had agreements in place to manage incoming. The universe let them get away with an alarming amount of value - maybe people were concerned with ultores getting away, but no one took the risk, because hardly anyone does. If black flag and ult had swapped places, I think the decisions made would be different.
__________________
"Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
lokken is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 21:41   #485
ReaperSix
Anti-Paperboy
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 174
ReaperSix is just really niceReaperSix is just really niceReaperSix is just really niceReaperSix is just really niceReaperSix is just really nice
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by lokken View Post
Round isn't quite mathematically over yet but if it goes as expected then the call to hit BF was too little too late given that they had agreements in place to manage incoming. The universe let them get away with an alarming amount of value - maybe people were concerned with ultores getting away, but no one took the risk, because hardly anyone does. If black flag and ult had swapped places, I think the decisions made would be different.
I think that more allies would have been apt to go after Ult but I also think the stats made more people feel it was a toss away round.
ReaperSix is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 22:53   #486
BloodyButcher
Propaganda Chief
 
BloodyButcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,666
BloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud of
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReaperSix View Post
I think that more allies would have been apt to go after Ult but I also think the stats made more people feel it was a toss away round.
maybe its time to toss away the stats chief then
__________________
RainbowS

RB Ely MISTU Angel Fusi0n 1up ToF VisioN CT FAnG ROCK
BloodyButcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Apr 2016, 23:59   #487
darkzidane
Trollbear
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 99
darkzidane has a spectacular aura aboutdarkzidane has a spectacular aura aboutdarkzidane has a spectacular aura about
Re: R66 who will win

iirc the 1st night of hitting bf most of the caths had ~100-150k beets... by night 2 it was more of and avg 200k beets per cath.
to save time
<Ultores> 200000 Beetle (1422k) hitting Fighter will hug Harpy: 630000 (2841.3k) Spider: 680000 (2720k) Phantom: 830000 (3187.2k) Banshee: 820000 (3148.8k) Illusion: 870000 (3262.5k) Corsair: 680000 (3005.6k) Lancer: 790000 (3160k)
emp is retarded stronk!

yes the avg ult planet has ~200k fi!
also as it was pointed out BF started sending pl clipper def + xan def planets with ~200k+ revs. who wants to take a gamble on which of the 3 fleets of def is real or fake? (1 guy landed a fake for lolz and would have landed on 305k revs + beets)
so yeah ult/mercs needed to send teamups of around 5+ planets just to break emp let alone account for def

as for bows on more then 1 occasion i saw fleets hitting the NDs in my gal (theres 6 of them) 1 morning i saw atleast 5 bows fleets hitting 2 planets which could have gone at BF.
all in all the fight with BF could have been better but they put up a good fight imo
__________________
Former SiN + TGV
R59 - 62 ODDR
R63 HODORS slacker
R64 -67 Ultores
R68 tagless
darkzidane is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 26 Apr 2016, 02:42   #488
BloodyButcher
Propaganda Chief
 
BloodyButcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,666
BloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud of
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkzidane View Post
iirc the 1st night of hitting bf most of the caths had ~100-150k beets... by night 2 it was more of and avg 200k beets per cath.
to save time
<Ultores> 200000 Beetle (1422k) hitting Fighter will hug Harpy: 630000 (2841.3k) Spider: 680000 (2720k) Phantom: 830000 (3187.2k) Banshee: 820000 (3148.8k) Illusion: 870000 (3262.5k) Corsair: 680000 (3005.6k) Lancer: 790000 (3160k)
emp is retarded stronk!

yes the avg ult planet has ~200k fi!
also as it was pointed out BF started sending pl clipper def + xan def planets with ~200k+ revs. who wants to take a gamble on which of the 3 fleets of def is real or fake? (1 guy landed a fake for lolz and would have landed on 305k revs + beets)
so yeah ult/mercs needed to send teamups of around 5+ planets just to break emp let alone account for def

as for bows on more then 1 occasion i saw fleets hitting the NDs in my gal (theres 6 of them) 1 morning i saw atleast 5 bows fleets hitting 2 planets which could have gone at BF.
all in all the fight with BF could have been better but they put up a good fight imo
Well BowS just said they could only send 45 fleets at maximum at BF.
Then they prolly need A LOT of other targets, and ND was the obvious choice i suppose.
Sounds like poor politics by BowS + the rest of the univers, and great politics by BF to invest in FL/ND
__________________
RainbowS

RB Ely MISTU Angel Fusi0n 1up ToF VisioN CT FAnG ROCK
BloodyButcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 26 Apr 2016, 09:06   #489
fortran
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 517
fortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the roughfortran is a jewel in the rough
Re: R66 who will win

I don't know if this agreement was on during the moments ultores joined against BF, but before that, it meant that Bows and BF could hit each other with their full Cr force, so it wasn't a limitation at all in the end.
__________________
mxy
fortran is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 27 Apr 2016, 16:02   #490
[DDK]gm
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 860
[DDK]gm has much to be proud of[DDK]gm has much to be proud of[DDK]gm has much to be proud of[DDK]gm has much to be proud of[DDK]gm has much to be proud of[DDK]gm has much to be proud of[DDK]gm has much to be proud of[DDK]gm has much to be proud of[DDK]gm has much to be proud of
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
Ct claimed and what? Sent a few dumbass fleets???
yes our fleets are dumbass, which is why I repeatedly tell you there is no point in CT taking part, BF were able to single fleet cover us on every wave we made. We are a Fi based alliance set up for xp, so low value, bf is a value alliance set up for Anti-Fi... and you say we are key in attacking them.

BF has done well, caught the value alliances sleeping, they have clearly won, even though they are too paranoid to realize it.
__________________
R4-5 DDK
R6 Vanx
R7-R10 FAnG
R10 Eclipse
R10.5-R13 FAnG
R20-23 CT
R23 (CT BG) ToF
R24-R75... CT
[DDK]gm is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 27 Apr 2016, 18:02   #491
ChronoX
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 72
ChronoX will become famous soon enoughChronoX will become famous soon enough
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by [DDK]gm View Post
BF has done well, caught the value alliances sleeping, they have clearly won, even though they are too paranoid to realize it.
Paranoid? I made a picture of Zhil to prove we're not paranoid...
http://i.imgur.com/0RiMygV.png
__________________
Black Flag

Last edited by ChronoX; 27 Apr 2016 at 18:10.
ChronoX is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 27 Apr 2016, 19:28   #492
NoXiouS
Mordar, Keel, Reip
 
NoXiouS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Finland
Posts: 333
NoXiouS is just really niceNoXiouS is just really niceNoXiouS is just really niceNoXiouS is just really nice
Re: R66 who will win

Out of experience, I personally wouldn't trust even the best of my friends when I'm in the lead (Hi gm and our first round), hence being paranoid should be a part of anyone sitting at the top, yes, we have a fair lead atm, can't take that away, but I've seen bigger leads go down the drain in the last week before, the ticker is still running. Be prepared, be vigilant, adapt and overcome, if you can't then you defo didn't deserve the win.
__________________
Wolf in a pirates clothing to the highest degree, standing behind the curtains.

All the war propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting. - George Orwell
NoXiouS is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 27 Apr 2016, 20:13   #493
Mzyxptlk
mz.
Space Invaders Champion, Alien Invasion Champion, Mosquito Kill Champion, Squid Hunter Champion, Tiger Punch Champion, Barts Watersports Adventure Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,452
Mzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus would
Re: R66 who will win

Wow, that's really great advice! I'm taking that advice and applying it by not trusting the #1 alliance going "Nope, we may still lose!". Thanks, NoXiouS!
__________________
The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
Mzyxptlk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 27 Apr 2016, 20:17   #494
booji
a bucket
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Chatham, UK
Posts: 1,065
booji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to beholdbooji is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

Quote:
Originally Posted by [DDK]gm View Post
BF has done well, caught the value alliances sleeping, they have clearly won, even though they are too paranoid to realize it.
What value alliances would these be? The only ones are really Bows and BF. I guess ND went into the round intending to do their usual but they are not usually a big value alliance. I dont know faceless, having gone fr they may have had some idea to have a little more value than the xp alliances but with few ziks and cats I doubt they were aiming to be an entirely value alliance given how easily fi roids fr. P3n is an xp alliance; everyone was supposed to be xping xans except scanners and the odd def planet, we simply find that most of our members cant play xp for their lives!

I agree they have clearly won though. The rest of the round will be BF rotating between hitting other alliances that look at them the wrong way or slighted them in the past while everyone cowers and tries not to be noticed.
__________________
Proud to have been TGV!
aargh! died in Jenova! | idled in ROCK | disappointed in Audentes | been Roguish | p-p-previously a p-p-p3nguin
Ascendancy

Otterly an Otter.
booji is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 27 Apr 2016, 20:21   #495
BloodyButcher
Propaganda Chief
 
BloodyButcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,666
BloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud ofBloodyButcher has much to be proud of
Re: R66 who will win

I was wondering that myself booji.
The other "value" allies is even behind Ult/CT still.

ND/BowS was aiming to win, p3nguins/FL aint close
__________________
RainbowS

RB Ely MISTU Angel Fusi0n 1up ToF VisioN CT FAnG ROCK
BloodyButcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 27 Apr 2016, 20:30   #496
NoXiouS
Mordar, Keel, Reip
 
NoXiouS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Finland
Posts: 333
NoXiouS is just really niceNoXiouS is just really niceNoXiouS is just really niceNoXiouS is just really nice
Re: R66 who will win

Mzy: being stabbed easily enough times in the past teaches you to look in the shadows a bit more closely. If you plan to lead an alliance that has a chance to win, it ain't that stupid to be cautious, especially in a round where XP can still make wonders (yes yes, I know we're ahead). I ain't playing us down, I admit we're doing good as it is, but the round ain't over and a lot can still happen, bigger caps have been closed before and passed too. You for one should be aware of this.
__________________
Wolf in a pirates clothing to the highest degree, standing behind the curtains.

All the war propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting. - George Orwell
NoXiouS is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 28 Apr 2016, 01:58   #497
Caj
speed demon
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SX!!
Posts: 295
Caj is a jewel in the roughCaj is a jewel in the roughCaj is a jewel in the roughCaj is a jewel in the rough
Re: R66 who will win

I think when gm said the other value alliances sleeping.
He meant traditionally CT/Ult are value.. and this round are sleeping

FYI.

Stat set was rubbish, which allowed a universe where some alliances can't even touch another alliance. Silly silly stats

Lets hope for better! - though I do think the xp/value was balanced this round, i think the stats just leant too much towards such opposite alliance strategys that the game broke
__________________
Cajee of Kitagawa, please find below my prestigious and prolific planet finishes:
Round 17 - Rank 3 - Omen (Zik)
Round 18 - Rank 2 - eXilition (Zik)
Round 20 - Rank 7 - Destiny (Zik)
Round 24 - Rank 2 - Conspiracy (Xan)
Round 29 - Rank 4 - Ascendancy (Xan)
Round 66 - Rank 9 - Ultores (Etd)
Round 67 - Rank 24 - Norsemen (Etd)
Round 68 - Rank 80 - Norsemen (Ter & Unscannable)
Caj is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 28 Apr 2016, 08:40   #498
Mzyxptlk
mz.
Space Invaders Champion, Alien Invasion Champion, Mosquito Kill Champion, Squid Hunter Champion, Tiger Punch Champion, Barts Watersports Adventure Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,452
Mzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus wouldMzyxptlk spreads love and joy to the forum in the same way Jesus would
Re: R66 who will win

Despite all the hype about XP, it is clear value still reigns supreme. That means it is not the stats that make BF unhittable; it's bad choices by other alliances' HCs. If the alliances going XP did so in an attempt to win, then they made a big mistake. Don't blame that on the stats maker.
__________________
The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
Mzyxptlk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 28 Apr 2016, 12:38   #499
Munkee
Dictator
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 634
Munkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to beholdMunkee is a splendid one to behold
Re: R66 who will win

For sure CT/Ult war made perfect sense when they were rising ahead of all the other alliances by 10mill early round. It however makes it a big struggle later as we all see.

Lessons to be learnt? None! We all knew this would be the way it would go. I think it was a strange round, maybe if p3ng decided to go for it we would have been a challenger to BF but we had made a very early decision to take a break from the usual routine, leaving rainbows and nd's to move up ranks to contend.
__________________
Telegram#planetarion https://t.me/joinchat/A5Y_KUOSd7DQQgYL0051pQ
Telegram: @munkee | https://telegram.me/munkee
p3nguins alliance public telegram channel https://t.me/p3nguins
Munkee is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 29 Apr 2016, 20:36   #500
SDN
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 77
SDN is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: R66 who will win

Normal routine?

have i missed the last 10 rounds of good performance from you guys?
__________________
Skydivenaked

Recent rounds:
Round 68 - #1 Gal Rank #6 planet
Round 67 - #1 Gal
Round 65 - Rank #3 Norsemen
Round 61 - Rank #37 Faceless
Round 60 - Rank #14 Ultores
Round 58 - Rank #35 Allieless xp play
Round 56 - Rank #14 Vikings
Round 54 - Rank #5 Vikings
SDN is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:56.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2002 - 2018