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mikay · 27 Nov 2002, 19:47

What are the best ships for defence?

I'll give you the answer tomorrow

Benneh · 27 Nov 2002, 20:29

uhum?

Pods for retalling?

thomas4 · 27 Nov 2002, 22:41

hmm depends on what to defend against

Tactitus · 27 Nov 2002, 23:00

To paraphrase an old song:

'Any defense is good defense,
So I took what I could get'

at0mic.c0w · 28 Nov 2002, 00:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Tactitus
To paraphrase an old song:

'Any defense is good defense,
So I took what I could get'

doesn't it go:

I think that any love is good lovin', and
So I took what I could get mmh...

Bachman Turner Overdrive - You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet

Tactitus · 28 Nov 2002, 03:29

Quote:

Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
doesn't it go:

I think that any love is good lovin', and
So I took what I could get mmh...

Bachman Turner Overdrive - You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet

Um yes, but...

paráaáphrase n.

1. A restatement of a text or passage in another form or other words, often to clarify meaning.
2. The restatement of texts in other words as a studying or teaching device.

My talents are wasted here.

28 Nov 2002, 06:57

Quote:

Originally posted by mikay
What are the best ships for defence?

I'll give you the answer tomorrow

Erm.... Shed loads of everything?

at0mic.c0w · 28 Nov 2002, 07:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Tactitus
paráaáphrase n.

1. A restatement of a text or passage in another form or other words, often to clarify meaning.
2. The restatement of texts in other words as a studying or teaching device.

paraphrasing means saying the same thing just in other words - not taking a phrase and changing its meaning

now we just need someone to tell us the latin name for what u did

thomas4 · 28 Nov 2002, 10:48

well its not about the paraphrasing but bout what the best def ship is

28 Nov 2002, 12:15

attack! is the best defence

isildurx · 28 Nov 2002, 12:25

best defence is clearly hax0ring ur attacker and recalling his fleet.

then launch on him and kill him :P

at0mic.c0w · 28 Nov 2002, 12:36

Quote:

Originally posted by isildurx
best defence is clearly hax0ring ur attacker and recalling his fleet.

then launch on him and kill him :P

and you are a ViruS member ?

mens · 28 Nov 2002, 13:22

we need a ViruS hc to comment on this one.

Coaxmetal · 28 Nov 2002, 14:20

Quote:

Originally posted by mikay
What are the best ships for defence?

I'll give you the answer tomorrow

Pulsar, sentinel and vsharrak. Low eta and kills a lot compared to their cost.

isildurx · 28 Nov 2002, 14:24

incase any1 missed it

it was a joke

Isil

thomas4 · 28 Nov 2002, 17:00

hmm, nice save

at0mic.c0w · 28 Nov 2002, 17:58

Quote:

Originally posted by isildurx
it was a joke

Isil

yah right

28 Nov 2002, 18:34

There isnt one single ship that outdoes the others.

Auro · 28 Nov 2002, 18:41

The magic bomber in this thread ?

thomas4 · 28 Nov 2002, 22:04

LOL @ teh mighty bomber

Iceaxe · 29 Nov 2002, 04:47

Its been a day. :/

29 Nov 2002, 05:57

Friendship
Leadership

If your allies have lots of these 'ships' you will get defence

30 Nov 2002, 17:38

I feel like i should know the answer to this one, but will no doubt get it wrong as usual.

The best defence ships will kill (or freeze) the ships that need to be dealt with - pods in whatever form - preferably without dying themselves. OH... and they need to get there on time too.

Now tell us why we're wrong

thomas4 · 30 Nov 2002, 19:09

Quote:

Originally posted by breeze
I feel like i should know the answer to this one, but will no doubt get it wrong as usual.

The best defence ships will kill (or freeze) the ships that need to be dealt with - pods in whatever form - preferably without dying themselves. OH... and they need to get there on time too.

Now tell us why we're wrong

hmmm

/me thinks that if breeze was given a test containing the question 'what is 3 x 3?' he would answer ' that is 3 times the number 3'

wtf is this kinda answer.

30 Nov 2002, 22:24

Quote:

Originally posted by thomas4
hmmm

/me thinks that if breeze was given a test containing the question 'what is 3 x 3?' he would answer ' that is 3 times the number 3'

wtf is this kinda answer.

One that states the obvious, as u so neatly point out... since there isnt' a simple answer or a single ship that IS the best defence. And if i was given a test containing the question 'what is 3 x 3?' i would wonder wtf i was doing back in primary school.

If i seriously had to nominate a single ship, I'd make it the sentinel, only eta6 ship that targets all.

mikay · 1 Dec 2002, 00:19

Quote:

Originally posted by mikay
What are the best ships for defence?

I'll give you the answer tomorrow

ETA-6 ships.

Kileman · 1 Dec 2002, 01:15

Quote:

Originally posted by Tactitus

'Any defense is good defense,
So I took what I could get'

But in PA, any defence could be a bad thing

________
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Psi_K · 1 Dec 2002, 04:41

Quote:

Originally posted by mikay
What are the best ships for defence?

I'll give you the answer tomorrow

r4 spider?

Silva baby · 1 Dec 2002, 09:35

sentinal?

1 Dec 2002, 14:33

It has to be the pulsar rather than sentinel as when the sent goes t3 all it losses its power to kill and pulsars rock at killing fr/de

Sentinel is more of a cr/co killer but if some1 sends mass fi the t3 will be distributed and not focussed so it looses its effectiveness

2 Dec 2002, 20:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Dreadnought!
It has to be the pulsar rather than sentinel as when the sent goes t3 all it losses its power to kill and pulsars rock at killing fr/de

Sentinel is more of a cr/co killer but if some1 sends mass fi the t3 will be distributed and not focussed so it looses its effectiveness

Well the whole point of the sentinel was that you could send it to defend vs anything, and it would at least fire and kill something. I've found them reasonably effective in large enough numbers.

On the other hand, send pulsars in against xand fi/co and tell me how much they rock. Personally i treat my pulsars as if they are made of glass.

Different ships will do better in different circumstances of course, but as thread starter says the point is to be there - hence eta6 ships are best for defence.

4 Dec 2002, 15:33

The best defence is to play with there mind, the bigger you are and the more def fleets you can get incomming (xan mates who send 1 ship are good for this) the more likley they are to pull and the less likley they are to want to attack you again.
Also a good plan is to send a well backed up pre-retal at there entire galaxy, cos that usually works, and when they pulll land the attack anyway. }=)

8 Dec 2002, 09:16

Quote:

Originally posted by hellwolf
The best defence is to play with there mind, the bigger you are and the more def fleets you can get incomming (xan mates who send 1 ship are good for this) the more likley they are to pull and the less likley they are to want to attack you again.
Also a good plan is to send a well backed up pre-retal at there entire galaxy, cos that usually works, and when they pulll land the attack anyway. }=)

However big you are presumably they wouldn't be attacking if they didn't think they could get through, so size isn't usually an issue. Fake defence can be useful, and a few extra single-ship fleets can make landing look a scarier prospect, but its something of a two edged sword. I know a few people who lost fleets this round sending genuine defence where the rest is fake - when the attacker calls the bluff it can be painful. Personally I never just look at the number of fleets defending but always do mil scans to see how robust the defence seems.

I think someone already said the best defence is offence. Strictly speaking I guess we're talking defence strategy here rather than best defence ships, but turning the tables and sending retals will often work well. A well organised galaxy with good alliances will usually get the counter covered though - and then arrange some incoming for your defence

19 Dec 2002, 12:54

The best defence is knowledge!
If you know what the attacker has then you can defend it by calling out to your aliance. They will then send the right ships.
e.g
If the attacker send fighters and pods you will need loadsa fighter and pod targeting ships.

Without the art of knowledge of what the attacker has then you are gonna get destroyed.

(In most cases)

mikay · 20 Dec 2002, 02:04

Quote:

Originally posted by Craft
The best defence is knowledge!
If you know what the attacker has then you can defend it by calling out to your aliance. They will then send the right ships.
e.g
If the attacker send fighters and pods you will need loadsa fighter and pod targeting ships.

Without the art of knowledge of what the attacker has then you are gonna get destroyed. (In most cases)

Yes and no. There are a lot of bad DCs who don't make effective or even sensible use of ships. My question was what is the most important attribute in a defence ship in an agregate way where you dunno what will be attacking and they trait I think is most important is speed above anything else.

20 Dec 2002, 02:20

naa, the best defence is the rollback-type ship, very useful.

but as always, the best defence is a good offense