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27 Feb 2005, 17:19
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Insanity Prawn Boy!
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I'm worried
I think i may have been caught by a speed camera yesterday on the A31 near to where it joins the M27. I'm not sure though as it was a police car sitting on a bridge, so it could've been watching the other road and there were no warning signs on my road. I am fairly sure that they have to have very clear signs warning you that there is a speed camera ahead. Am i right about this and if i am, can i appeal against the ticket (if i get one) on the grounds that there were no warning signs?
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27 Feb 2005, 17:24
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Re: I'm worried
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27 Feb 2005, 17:30
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Insanity Prawn Boy!
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Re: I'm worried
no? no they don't have to have warning signs or no i can't appeal?
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27 Feb 2005, 17:36
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Re: I'm worried
bollocks
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27 Feb 2005, 17:39
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Re: I'm worried
it would be stupid if they had to warn you before, wouldn't it? they would never catch anyone, it would be just a big waste of time for the police.
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27 Feb 2005, 17:44
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Insanity Prawn Boy!
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Re: I'm worried
no, the whole idea is to get people to slow down. By putting up signs they encourage people to slow down or get caught by the camera and get a fine. Obviously if i knew the camera was there, i wouldn't have been speeding. That's the theory anyway. Most believe that the police are just out trying to get some extra funds
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27 Feb 2005, 17:50
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Re: I'm worried
I thought they did have to warn you. Surely thats why speed cameras have to be bright orange and they stick big speed camera pics up when they are sitting in a patrol car with a speed gun.
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27 Feb 2005, 17:52
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Insanity Prawn Boy!
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Re: I'm worried
that's what i thought. Didn't the government deem it "unfair" after they kept getting compliants from upset motorists
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27 Feb 2005, 18:04
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Re: I'm worried
mobile cameras are different though i think.
Wait for the letter, if you were caught doing a lot over the limit then you'd have been stopped. You might be deemed 'not worth it' or they might not have got a decent picture of you license plate or they might have missed you etc etc.
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27 Feb 2005, 18:17
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Re: I'm worried
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Originally Posted by Demon Dave
no, the whole idea is to get people to slow down. By putting up signs they encourage people to slow down or get caught by the camera and get a fine. Obviously if i knew the camera was there, i wouldn't have been speeding. That's the theory anyway. Most believe that the police are just out trying to get some extra funds
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yes, true, but if you have to worry that there is a speeding camera all the time, not just if there is a sign, you slow down all the time (also only in theory)
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27 Feb 2005, 18:21
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Re: I'm worried
i just got neg repped for asking yahwe to elaborate
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27 Feb 2005, 18:26
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Re: I'm worried
not by me
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27 Feb 2005, 18:38
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Re: I'm worried
Obviously, you have the rep influencing power to take him back to red. Also, I was under the impression that they didn't have to warn you, but the money didn't go to the police unless they do.
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27 Feb 2005, 18:47
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Re: I'm worried
appeal anyway, often the police won't turn up to the hearing as they're too busy.
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27 Feb 2005, 21:12
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Re: I'm worried
I've got 9 points on my licence, so I'm very careful round cameras these days.
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27 Feb 2005, 21:14
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Re: I'm worried
i was under the impression they do have to warn. every camera ive ever seen on a motorway bridge will be preceeded by a temporary 'speed camera' sign usually put in a laybye or tied to a post or whatever.
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27 Feb 2005, 21:19
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Re: I'm worried
Accidentally I got my last 6 points from a mobile camera, 3 going one way and the other 3 half an hour later going the other way. There were no signs at all.
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27 Feb 2005, 21:22
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Re: I'm worried
if there are no warning signs or speed signs, don't you have a certain speed limit that you have to follow on every type of road? like certain speed limits on residential areas, school zones, high-ways, etc when instances where speed limits are not posted?
just wondering, because we do..
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27 Feb 2005, 21:28
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Re: I'm worried
yes, we do
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27 Feb 2005, 22:54
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Re: I'm worried
We do - but apparently the rules laid down in the highway code aren't sufficient to warn people that there might be consequenses for breaking the speed limit.
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27 Feb 2005, 23:14
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Re: I'm worried
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demon Dave
Obviously if i knew the camera was there, i wouldn't have been speeding.
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Originally Posted by Dace
Obviously if i knew the neighbours were watching, i wouldn't have been burying her rohypnol-laced body under the patio.
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Neither of these situations make it " okay" to still commit the crime.
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27 Feb 2005, 23:53
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Re: I'm worried
but i'd get dace off.
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27 Feb 2005, 23:58
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Re: I'm worried
i prefer chloroform to rohypnol, but, each to his own i suppose
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28 Feb 2005, 00:08
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Re: I'm worried
Quote:
Originally Posted by demiGOD
if there are no warning signs or speed signs, don't you have a certain speed limit that you have to follow on every type of road? like certain speed limits on residential areas, school zones, high-ways, etc when instances where speed limits are not posted?
just wondering, because we do..
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30 mph on a road with streetlights unless otherwise signposted
60 mph on Single Carriageways
70 mph on Dual Carriageways (two lanes for traffic travelling in either direction)
70 mph on Motorways
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28 Feb 2005, 00:23
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Re: I'm worried
who goes to belgium?
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28 Feb 2005, 00:38
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Re: I'm worried
I would, when going to France. I would stop 1 gasstation before Belgium, and then after Belgium.
btw here in the Netherlands we have the speed-cam-fascist movement, also known as the Traffic Police.
They hide cameras everywhere trying to nail motorists, with the idea 'if they think they can get caught anywhere, they won't do it anywhere.'
Which has lead to an innovative sms-service where you can send sightings of speedcams to and where you can get info on locations of current cam-activities.
I personally think that although the idea is okay, I still do not want to pay when I speed.
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28 Feb 2005, 01:01
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Re: I'm worried
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I still do not want to pay when I speed.
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Michael Jackson doesn't want to pay when he performs the five-knuckle-shuffle on a 12 yr old.
People never want to pay for their crimes.
Although i hate the traffic police/speed camera/money-grabbing ****s as much as the next person.
Does anyone else think that the penalty for speeding is disproportionate to the 'crime'?
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28 Feb 2005, 01:33
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Re: I'm worried
A CRIME
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A CRIME
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28 Feb 2005, 01:43
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Re: I'm worried
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I personally think that although the idea is okay, I still do not want to pay when I speed.
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i too think that the idea is ok, it's just that some of the constabularies are taking the piss. For example, the A32 (which is a busy single carriageway road) near me has had about 5 fatal accidents in just 3 years i think. It's not uncommen to see people do 100 mph down it. That is the kind of road where they should put a speed camera
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28 Feb 2005, 02:20
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Re: I'm worried
im sorry but motorways....very few people stick to 70mph....
take the m40
less than 90 is just not accepted in the outside lane...
most motorway driving is done at 80ish
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28 Feb 2005, 03:47
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Re: I'm worried
speeding tickets
= 85 on a 55 $340 (reckless driving waived) in virginia beach
= 90 on a 65 $300 in new jersey
reckless driving
= 110 on a 55 $710 including court waiver fees, south carolina
running a red light
= $370 in los angeles
not stopping at a stop sign
= $180 in los angeles
all these ever since i got my driver's license 9 years ago - my car insurance is LITERALLY killing me - but paying definitely works because i drive a bit more decent now, sad to say it took a lot of money for me to ****ing learn
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28 Feb 2005, 10:05
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Re: I'm worried
How fast were you actually driving Dave?
Surely doing a few mph too fast isn't a big deal.
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28 Feb 2005, 10:20
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Re: I'm worried
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all these ever since i got my driver's license 9 years ago -
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28 Feb 2005, 10:41
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Re: I'm worried
have been hopping up and down the country on the motorway this week (visiting my new nephew)
i always stick to the 'make sure someone else is going faster than you' rule and dont tend to drive much above 90mph anyway
not been told off by any policemen yet
how fast were you going?
(they may have just been parked on bridge
amusing themselves watching people hit the breaks when they were spotted)
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28 Feb 2005, 10:54
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Re: I'm worried
There's an easy answer: don't speed!
Yes ok, so now that everyone's stopped s******ing let's come to some realistic alternatives.
Basicly madi's covered my general technique, at least for motorways. I don't tend to go over 80, and I generally make sure there's someone going faster than me. Also, you're USUALLY safe up to 77mph as speedos are allowed to be 10% out either way before they become illegal. This is not for definate though - it is perfectly possible to get a ticket for doing 75. If your speedo really is out then you can appeal and get let off.
Incidentally, look out for motorway roadworks sections with reduced speed limites, usually 50 zones. They tend to be shit hot about clocking people through those as my dad found to his cost a couple of months ago...
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I said s******ing fs!
Mod in censor evasion shocker...
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28 Feb 2005, 16:57
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Re: I'm worried
they can put up warning signs and have a speed camera upto 1 mile from that sign, as for mobile ones im not sure..
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28 Feb 2005, 17:04
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Re: I'm worried
why do they have to warn?
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28 Feb 2005, 17:10
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Re: I'm worried
so it doesnt look entirely like they're trying to rob people
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28 Feb 2005, 17:11
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Miles Teg
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Re: I'm worried
what?
I mean the whole idea is that you stop people from speeding right?
not just from speeding when they know someone is looking.
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28 Feb 2005, 17:56
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Re: I'm worried
For those people asking how fast i was going, i was doing about 75-85 mph, and there were still people undertaking me
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28 Feb 2005, 18:19
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Re: I'm worried
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For those people asking how fast i was going, i was doing about 75-85 mph, and there were still people undertaking me
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If you're being undertaken, it's a sign to move to a left hand lane.
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Insanity Prawn Boy!
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Re: I'm worried
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If you're being undertaken, it's a sign to move to a left hand lane.
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normally i'd agree, but i was still overtaking people in the middle lane, hence why i stayed in the outside lane *shrug*
I am tempted to get a Road Angel, except i haven't got £350 or a cigerette lighter
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Re: I'm worried
i know one stretch of the m2 heading to london where noone does under 90, even lorries.....
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Re: I'm worried
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How old are you?
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