So many fools...

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by Rumad

PA in the "a little too little a little to late" non shocker,

Happens every round - well done 1up for bluffing the majority of the universe.

What the hell are you talking about Rumad?

I'm not sure why everyone is moaning to be honest. This is by far the most entertaining PA has been after this many ticks. The standard PA round would now consist of the top 2/3 alliances smacking the same gals every night and beating the, already asswhupped, losing block into the ground and would be plagued by people coming on here saying "blocking sucks, I quit".

From my point of view the round still is hugely entertaining with attacks landing and incoming of an enormous scale. This is exactly what PA is about and I fail to see why anybody could possibly moan about things becoming more enjoyable.

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

What the hell are you talking about Rumad?

I'm not sure why everyone is moaning to be honest. This is by far the most entertaining PA has been after this many ticks. The standard PA round would now consist of the top 2/3 alliances smacking the same gals every night and beating the, already asswhupped, losing block into the ground and would be plagued by people coming on here saying "blocking sucks, I quit".

From my point of view the round still is hugely entertaining with attacks landing and incoming of an enormous scale. This is exactly what PA is about and I fail to see why anybody could possibly moan about things becoming more enjoyable.

Wel if you say so.

I have done nohng but congratulate you, but I guess you can take that as a insult or as a compliment.

You won, too little was done to limit your growth and you strengthened your position. You managed to convince everyone for the majority you weren't "evil" and that you played pa how it should have been played.

The reality is that by eliminating blocks you eliminated your biggst competitors. You divided and conquered and that deserves congratulating, but at the end of the ay PA HC's and players were there own worst enemies by allowing that to happen.

Same sh!t different day.

[Shaithess]

I agree with mazzelaar, by now, last round, FPMW were untouchable. ND were in a war with them but we didn't actually stand a chance, I think we were just trying to be annoying assholes

By now, if the other alliances concentrated on 1up gals (even without co-operating with each other, just hitting them themselves), for long enough, and well enough, then I'm sure we could see 1up's growth being stonewalled atleast :/

[lokken]

Originally Posted by Rumad

Wel if you say so.

I have done nohng but cngratulate you, but I guessyou can take that as a insult or as a compliment.

You won, too little was done to limit yur growth and you strengthened your position. You managed to convince everyone for the majority you weren't "evil" and that you played pa how it should have been played.

The reality is that by eliminating blocks you eliminated your biggst competitors. Yu divided and conquered and that deserves congratulating, but at the end of the ay PA HC's and players wee there own worst enemies by allowing that to happen.

Same sh!t different day.

Rumad gets a gold star.

[Game']

Originally Posted by Rumad

The reality is that by eliminating blocks you eliminated your biggst competitors. Yu divided and conquered and that deserves congratulating, but at the end of the ay PA HC's and players wee there own worst enemies by allowing that to happen.

Same sh!t different day.

I still dont understand what you are saying, werent FanG/Mistu the "team" last round, and very early in this round they were attacking together against 1up. Also had blocks been involved at the start of the round, 1up would also of had a block of their own to compete on a level playing field. Of course though blocking means not just estimating your own strength but your enemies strength too, in order to try and achieve "even" blocks, which we all know never happens anyway.

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by Game'

I still dont understand what you are saying, werent FanG/Mistu the "team" last round, and very early in this round they were attacking together against 1up. Also had blocks been involved at the start of the round, 1up would also of had a block of their own to compete on a level playing field. Of course though blocking means not just estimating your own strength but your enemies strength too, in order to try and achieve "even" blocks, which we all know never happens anyway.

FAnG/MISTU were never a serious competing block. FAnG lost too many members for that to happen.

I don't dispute your logic or the tactics used, but every round people hesitate or worry and end up missing the correct or appropriate action. There was a point where 1up could have been dragged back, but lethargy and inept strategic decisions striked again.

As I say don't get to uppity I have congratulated you after all, but just would have been nice to see some variance from previous rounds. A few aliances get the upper hand, no one does anything constructive to try and peg them back, we end up with a no better position than any of the other blocked rounds.

As I say don't take this the wrong way you had to win it, but at the end of the day not enough was done to make the journey harder and rougher than the ride you actually got.

[lokken]

Originally Posted by Game'

I still dont understand what you are saying, werent FanG/Mistu the "team" last round, and very early in this round they were attacking together against 1up. Also had blocks been involved at the start of the round, 1up would also of had a block of their own to compete on a level playing field. Of course though blocking means not just estimating your own strength but your enemies strength too, in order to try and achieve "even" blocks, which we all know never happens anyway.

His point is - that the mentality seeded by 1up resulted in an insufficient response to the 1up threat (a sufficient one being to bomb them out early) and that any formed because of this mentality was inadequate

I for one fail to understand why people blame the idea of blocking, rather than individuals who abuse it and create crap rounds simply because they don't want to lose..

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by lokken

His point is - that the mentality seeded by 1up resulted in an insufficient response to the 1up threat (a sufficient one being to bomb them out early) and that any formed because of this mentality was inadequate

I for one fail to understand why people blame the idea of blocking, rather than individuals who abuse it and create crap rounds simply because they don't want to lose..

I got the god star, but totally and utterly correct - now all we will hear is bitching about how ppl have no chance and the trolls from 1up saying how great they are when yet again incorrect decisions and disinformation handed them there win on a silver platter. Shame really.

To shaithness - I seriously doubt anyone has the activity or ability or ships to peg them back now. Thats where the little too little a little too late comes in

[Game']

Originally Posted by lokken

His point is - that the mentality seeded by 1up resulted in an insufficient response to the 1up threat (a sufficient one being to bomb them out early) and that any formed because of this mentality was inadequate

I for one fail to understand why people blame the idea of blocking, rather than individuals who abuse it and create crap rounds simply because they don't want to lose..

Mistu attempted from very early to take on 1up, and have carried on throughout the round.

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by Game'

Mistu attempted from very early to take on 1up, and have carried on throughout the round.

Yep, but size comparison very early on was quite large which you cannot deny.

[Game']

Originally Posted by Rumad

Yep, but size comparison very early on was quite large which you cannot deny.

Given the fact that basicially every alliance was getting incoming from everyone on random galaxy targets, concentrated incoming from one alliance could of done alot of damage, had it of been done in a more organised fashion. Mistu made their mistake in picking out 2-3 "key" galaxies and constantly hitting them, leaving the others to grow.

[cypher]

i'm wondering about rumad's superb great social life......

dude if you have it, don't keep posting on here and boring us when you don't have that much information really...

this round can still go ANY way... and i doubt anyone in 1up thinks we've actually won yet..considering the amount of roids we loose on quite a regular basis...

i've never been in an alliance that lost (and won) this much at this stage of the game.

after posting these few sentences i'm actually wondering why the f*ck i'm really bothering with people on AD......... heh:S /me quits again

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Shaithess

I agree with mazzelaar, by now, last round, FPMW were untouchable. ND were in a war with them but we didn't actually stand a chance, I think we were just trying to be annoying assholes

By now, if the other alliances concentrated on 1up gals (even without co-operating with each other, just hitting them themselves), for long enough, and well enough, then I'm sure we could see 1up's growth being stonewalled atleast :/

at this point last round we weren't allied with WP (fang never was, phraktos was) and by this time phraktos decided to die on us aswell.

To Cayl, solo rounds do idd show what an alliance is made up for in most of the cases. For other alliances it's a ticket to a dead and boring round. Those are the disadvantages of alliances having grudges against you winning last round and the fact that most members had no real goal left in PA or left because we didn't directly hit 1up (hi Ronin, and his group of old Legion).

Also Cayl, I played last round, whoever did, knew that LCH would have a large amount of the Elysium members. And eventhough I dispite that alliance, they had some good players. I for one knew what LCH was capable of this round.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Rumad

FAnG/MISTU were never a serious competing block. FAnG lost too many members for that to happen.

I don't dispute your logic or the tactics used, but every round people hesitate or worry and end up missing the correct or appropriate action. There was a point where 1up could have been dragged back, but lethargy and inept strategic decisions striked again.

As I say don't get to uppity I have congratulated you after all, but just would have been nice to see some variance from previous rounds. A few aliances get the upper hand, no one does anything constructive to try and peg them back, we end up with a no better position than any of the other blocked rounds.

As I say don't take this the wrong way you had to win it, but at the end of the day not enough was done to make the journey harder and rougher than the ride you actually got.

correction ... FAnG and MISTU never were a block, allies or napped this round. I explained the situation weeks ago in another thread.

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by cypher

i'm wondering about rumad's superb great social life......

dude if you have it, don't keep posting on here and boring us when you don't have that much information really...

this round can still go ANY way... and i doubt anyone in 1up thinks we've actually won yet..considering the amount of roids we loose on quite a regular basis...

i've never been in an alliance that lost (and won) this much at this stage of the game.

after posting these few sentences i'm actually wondering why the f*ck i'm really bothering with people on AD......... heh:S /me quits again

I post while at work and play while at work.

As for still going either way I really doubt that now. A few weeks ago that was all well and possible, but not now.

As for me not having a clue, I still have mates wh play seriously, I still have my old network of friends wh pass me info and i stil play. I know wha know and its enough to be fairly correct apart from occasionally wil try and "stir things up" but thats all part of posting here isn't it?

But your allowed your point of view cyphie just as I am allowed mine . I could make a obnoxious comment about you always quitting, but that would just be a cheap shot so wont saying your a mate, but just remember AD for anyone playing with knowledge or a view or experience of dealing with situations, not just the select few who think they should have their own way

Whatever you thn of me, my posts or my content at the end of the day discussion is what makes AD fun, not just some mindless trolling saying yu suck or you have no right to post. Think about that

[cypher]

me always quitting?:S hmmmm that's funny seeing as i know my history of rankings...:S unlike you then:/

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

correction ... FAnG and MISTU never were a block, allies or napped this round. I explained the situation weeks ago in another thread.

The point stands though. Simply you aren't any serious threat to 1up because of the mini collapse. Whether you were or weren't allied is a mute point saying both you and mistu were hit hardest at the start.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Rumad

The point stands though. Simply you aren't any serious threat to 1up becuase f the mini collapse. Whether you were or eren't allied is a mute point saying bth yu and mistu were hit hardest at the start,

you can call it a big collapse, if it were mini we'd still have been at the top. Yes I agree that we probably got hit hardest of all alliances at the start of this round. It was a stupid call to attack 1up from the start cause we already had too much enemies who wanted some petty revenge. Pity I was on holiday during that week because things would have been different if some pple had listened to me.

We never were a serious threat to anyone this round. It's really sad, but the truth and no point in trying to make up excuses like alot alliances did last round or the rounds before. IF FAnG plays next round, atleast we can't do worse ...

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

you can call it a big collapse, if it were mini we'd still have been at the top. Yes I agree that we probably got hit hardest of all alliances at the start of this round. It was a stupid call to attack 1up from the start cause we already had too much enemies who wanted some petty revenge. Pity I was on holiday during that week because things would have been different if some pple had listened to me.

We never were a serious threat to anyone this round. It's really sad, but the truth and no point in trying to make up excuses like alot alliances did last round or the rounds before. IF FAnG plays next round, atleast we can't do worse ...

Fair comment - I would sa if it was a big collapse it wuld have been on a par with 2 rounds ago though and to be fair ths colase is very similar to round 8 wen players started leaving so woud class it as a mini collapse (things went tits u but at least yu don't have to start from scratch).

I hope FAnG does continue playing though - its been a big part of my playing career and and is a big part of the PA community.

[Shaithess]

Would anyone mind explaining exactly what happened to FAnG for me? I missed the first few days, and then I missed another two weeks as I went on vacation (which is one excuse as to why my planet sucks this round )

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by Shaithess

Would anyone mind explaining exactly what happened to FAnG for me? I missed the first few days, and then I missed another two weeks as I went on vacation (which is one excuse as to why my planet sucks this round )

FAnG decided to target 1up, 1up hit them hard, 30 or so members left leaving FAnG with a huge hole.

FAnG sort of did ok, but loosing those members put pay to finishing significantly highly in the rankings.

Thats it in a nutshell really.

[Shaithess]

Members left when the going got tough?
Good riddance then, IMO...

Just wondering though; were FAnG hit hard from the beginning of the round by others as well as a way of releasing pent up anger from PaX.5? I had a feeling that perhaps FAnG would get ****ed this round, and by becoming so unpopular in PaX.5 in order to win, would end up taking a huge blow in this round. Perhaps ensuring they never win a round again...

[ComradeRob]

Originally Posted by Rumad

I got the god star, but totally and utterly correct - now all we will hear is bitching about how ppl have no chance and the trolls from 1up saying how great they are when yet again incorrect decisions and disinformation handed them there win on a silver platter. Shame really.

If you are so sure that 1up has won, can you please tell that to the alliances that keep attacking us every night, so they can give up and we can all get some sleep?

tbh, the only person complaining that theres "no chance" is you. And, as far as I know, you aren't playing this round, and are not either a HC or even member of any of the alliances still playing an active political role. You might decide that this is the point of the round to throw your toys out of the pram and start crying, other people are just playing the game.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Shaithess

Members left when the going got tough?
Good riddance then, IMO...

Just wondering though; were FAnG hit hard from the beginning of the round by others as well as a way of releasing pent up anger from PaX.5? I had a feeling that perhaps FAnG would get ****ed this round, and by becoming so unpopular in PaX.5 in order to win, would end up taking a huge blow in this round. Perhaps ensuring they never win a round again...

last round we had only a few loyal players, most were mercanies and pple who currently play in top alliances. Last round it worked out great cause a player only playing for roids and personal score stays in the winning team. This round, we got hit, pple figured they might lose a few rocks, so ran to LCH (and some to 1up and mistu).

Another load of pple left cause they joined to cnut 1up. Since fang was unable to hit 1up, they decided to jump to another alliance who can. Again, there's no loyalty to be found there either.

When things go well, then it's easy to run an alliance. Because even the biggest and most selfish morons in your alliance will stay and occasionally send a few ships for defence. When it gets though, you'll see that kinda pple run to the next best alliance. No doubt will they leave again if that alliance ever has a difficult time.

And yes, the anti 10.5 feelings, seems revenge is still a reason for motivation to play.

On a sidenote, not to take away any credits to 1up, but they weren't the cause of our implosion. They were just triggered what I suspected was gonna happen real soon nway. It's like building a huge house on dry wood, surrounding it with extra flammable stuff and then ask a smoker for tea party ... No wonder it'd burn down.

[MotoX]

Stop debating other things in my thread, stup…!

1up are slipping away more by the day… so stop blabbering on irrelevant subjects and
focus instead at the battlefield.

Viva the REVOLT!

[rshih]

ok.....

[AzureWrath]

Originally Posted by MotoX

Stop debating other things in my thread, stup…!

1up are slipping away more by the day… so stop blabbering on irrelevant subjects and
focus instead at the battlefield.

Viva the REVOLT!

<Storebo> Could i respond "damn rebells, The Empire will not tremble"

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by MotoX

Stop debating other things in my thread, stup…!

1up are slipping away more by the day… so stop blabbering on irrelevant subjects and
focus instead at the battlefield.

Viva the REVOLT!

You're funny, you think pple actually take you serious in this thread ...

[genosse27]

this thread looks like "1up wanking on their victory"

[MotoX]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

You're funny, you think pple actually take you serious in this thread ...

I’m not here to be serious or for that matter funny – I’m here to see that your lazy sods finally wake up! But that seems to be a harder job then ever.

[ComradeRob]

Everyone is awake already. You think PA players ever actually sleep?

[Jester]

Originally Posted by ComradeRob

Everyone is awake already. You think PA players ever actually sleep?

See this is why 1up is winning. I bet my box of lollies that MotoX goes to bed before 7am (and still expects to do well ha ha ha).

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Jester

See this is why 1up is winning. I bet my box of lollies that MotoX goes to bed before 7am (and still expects to do well ha ha ha).

This has just made me realise that I've never once heard rob say he's going to sleep. He's a scary fellow

[Guran]

I very much doubt Sid gives a shit about who are ex ToT or not. From my own experience I can say 1UP targets those planets more than other, who have been hostile against them. 1UP are not focusing on LCH only anymore. Lately planets in vision, mistu, etc.. have got their fair share aswell because they have attacked 1UP. The alliance as a whole might not be immediate threath to them, it's the 'big' planets who hit them over and over again. It's them they want to neutralize, nomatter which alliance they represent. By attacking them they hope to reduce their own incomings, reduce own losses.. This is how I see it

Originally Posted by MotoX

Just stating the obvious:
Why 1up aren’t hitting LCH that hard and how to stop that coalition, right? If not I will spell it out in public… LCH do have old TOT members and TOT HC:s in their member base and Sid have more then a friendly past with those characters…

Yes my Intel sucks but still…

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by ComradeRob

]
tbh, the only person complaining that theres "no chance" is you. And, as far as I know, you aren't playing this round, and are not either a HC or even member of any of the alliances still playing an active political role. You might decide that this is the point of the round to throw your toys out of the pram and start crying, other people are just playing the game.

I am playing, but as stated above not in a serious capacity.

You have the roids, you have the activity and sure ppl wil try and piss you off, but at the end f the day those two points along with good defence means you have won. The fat lady may not have sung yet, but she has her speakers, backing band and microphone all ready and she is doing her pre stage tests.

As for me throwing my toys out - I have no reason to get upset, just expressing some views which i am more than entitled to do - get over it

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by MotoX

I’m not here to be serious or for that matter funny – I’m here to see that your lazy sods finally wake up! But that seems to be a harder job then ever.

you know, everyone wants to prevent 1up from winning. Who says FAnG will benefit 1 single bit from preventing 1up from winning? I mean seriously, does it really matter to us who wins? To me it doesn't so let those that care fight for it.

MotoX, what you fail to realize is that pple don't need someone like you to tell them 1up won. Pple knew it 5 weeks ago aswell and yet nothing was done /could be done about it. If you're so wise and all, how comes your own alliance can't nor does shit either? If you want a mass block attacking 1up, then sure AD is the place to start gathering right?

How about you just contact the alliance HC's, you'll reach alot further then calling pple fools on AD just because they didn't do more about then you did, or your alliance.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Pple knew it 5 weeks ago aswell and yet nothing was done /could be done about it.

1up had already won at tick 85?

[Cayl]

Isn't there some Sun Tzu quote about winning before the round starts?

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Jester

1up had already won at tick 85?

yes cause when I said 5 weeks, I meant 5 weeks exactly aka 7*24*5 ticks, aka 840 ticks ...

You know what I mean Jester

[Leviathan]

I may be classed as a n00b. I don't care. What bothers me is that everyone concentrates on bashing 1up. Why doesn't everyone focus on beating them instead of whining about the fact they are winning. The game is not over yet.

[Colt]

Originally Posted by Leviathan

I may be classed as a n00b. I don't care. What bothers me is that everyone concentrates on bashing 1up. Why doesn't everyone focus on beating them instead of whining about the fact they are winning. The game is not over yet.

Why not ask the alliance HC's that Q

[Damon]

If 3 alliances really have to team up to beat one.
That makes that one alliance already the winner.
Even if they dont end #1 in the game itself.

[mens]

Nobody will care anyways 3 days after round ends.

[Fred of Bedrock]

All I can say is thank goodness I have quit.

If 1up wins then good on them..... if you think blocking to beat them after winning or ruling is an answer then its pretty pathetic once again.

Trust me once the challenge goes and they cant attack then they will go inactive and the good players will get frustrated and its back to a stagnant round etc etc.

The game doesnt seem to improve and for the life of me I cannot see a reason why any-one plays it anyway.

I was going to read the forums to amuse myself during lunchtime but I read a couple of posts and then gave up.

I will try and come on and say hello to some people later on irc but to play again..... I dont think so.

[Leviathan]

Originally Posted by Damon

If 3 alliances really have to team up to beat one.
That makes that one alliance already the winner.
Even if they dont end #1 in the game itself.

No it doesn't.

I believe It took the combined forces of USA, Britain and Soviet Union the bring down the Nazi's. Does that mean the the Nazi's won by default. I don't think so.

If three alliances are what it takes to take out the lead alliance, then one of the three alliances is the winner. 1up are not invinsible. I'm not experienced enough to propose a strategy so I won't waste my time and everybody else's trying, there is still time.

[Nadar]

Originally Posted by Hicks

0 <- This is a loop, none of you are in it.

Weeeeell.. actually.. it's a zero

[DrunkenViking]

Originally Posted by Nadar

Weeeeell.. actually.. it's a zero

have to agree there, a loop is more like:

                          oo
                    o           o
              o                      o
        o                                 o
    o                                         o
 o                                                o
o                                                    o
o                                                    o
  o                                                o
     o                                          o 
          o                                 o
                o                      o
                    o            o
                           oo

[Tis]

Originally Posted by Leviathan

I believe It took the combined forces of USA, Britain and Soviet Union the bring down the Nazi's. Does that mean the the Nazi's won by default. I don't think so.

As a historian by education, your 'example' insults me, and, as a future lawyer, it is my duty to invoke Godwins Law.

You lose.

[Precursors]

Originally Posted by Leviathan

No it doesn't.

I believe It took the combined forces of USA, Britain and Soviet Union the bring down the Nazi's. Does that mean the the Nazi's won by default. I don't think so.

If three alliances are what it takes to take out the lead alliance, then one of the three alliances is the winner. 1up are not invinsible. I'm not experienced enough to propose a strategy so I won't waste my time and everybody else's trying, there is still time.

USA went into war after Japan hit them
Russia declared war on Germany when Germany hit them (they split poland between themselves before the war even)

I agree with Fred of Bedrock's comments. The situation comes from lack of players actually. It is different to be #1 alliance in a 4k planet universe, than in a 80k planet universe.

[G.K Zhukov]

Originally Posted by Tis

As a historian by education, your 'example' insults me, and, as a future lawyer, it is my duty to invoke Godwins Law.

You lose.

His exampel is perfectly valid.
You lose.

P.S I hope you arent going to teach any kids.