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25 Mar 2003, 12:41
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deleted planets
Have any of the top planets gotten closed down?
Just curious, as i saw some info about that.
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25 Mar 2003, 12:59
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Free!
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Re: deleted planets
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Originally posted by MadeMan
Have any of the top planets gotten closed down?
Just curious, as i saw some info about that.
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closed or deleted you used one in subject one in main post?
Deleted no
closed afew
Answer your question?
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25 Mar 2003, 13:01
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hehe i tend to say closed=deleted
but the question was : "anybody closed yet?"
good that u have closed some.
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25 Mar 2003, 13:04
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Free!
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Quote:
Originally posted by MadeMan
hehe i tend to say closed=deleted
but the question was : "anybody closed yet?"
good that u have closed some.
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20ish I think
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25 Mar 2003, 13:06
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ensign forever
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Quote:
Originally posted by Prince
20ish I think
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You missed a lot of cheaters then. The top gals used more farms than that even.
hAl
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25 Mar 2003, 13:12
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Free!
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Quote:
Originally posted by hAl
You missed a lot of cheaters then. The top gals used more farms than that even.
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if you can back that up with evidence then please email me 
farming is probaly the hardest one to prove at times, as i said on another thread
the gal i assume your meaning is watched every tick
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25 Mar 2003, 13:42
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ensign forever
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Quote:
Originally posted by Prince
if you can back that up with evidence then please email me
farming is probaly the hardest one to prove at times, as i said on another thread
the gal i assume your meaning is watched every tick
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Evidence of them roiding a gal they attack another gal with a few days later with seems enough to me. You could have been a bit pro-active in that by checking those top gals attacks partners to find they might have roided those same attack partners only one or two days before obviously without losses.
Obviously we cannot gain evidence as you put it cause we have no information from inside the game and I certainly will not try to enter someones computer in any way to gain such info. We know by people in those gals getting the same roid gains as the gals they farm, by them complaining to their allies about attacking the (farm) gals they attack themselves. and by those gals suddenly growing in roids for a tick before being roided again. By those farm gals they were attacking earlier showing showing up in attacks on hostiles joining those planets they lost roids to. Someone who attack you with all his fleet but 20 ships gaining 14 roids per tick where someone in the support gal attacking you lost 14 roids the same tick. Coincedence ? some mayby but combine it it leads to simple conclusions.
Much of this is noticed by people and combined it forms a clear picture.
Is there any piece of conclusive evidence however. Probalby not.
Only you however can gather the conclusive evidence. All ours is circumstancial but overwhelming enough to notice.
You can however easily notice if the top gals use support gals to attack with and if they roided those gals earlier.
You can check if the top gals send little fleets out to specific gals who send their fleet away or build only ships that do not defend against pods.
You can check if planets being attack by small top gal fleets suddenly initiate roids
Sure, I do not expect you to check all gals like that but clearly the top 5 or top ten gals in the start of a round are fairly easy to checkupon and I'm certain you have had some reports about them as well.
hAl
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25 Mar 2003, 14:04
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It was a Stupid Dream
Join Date: Jun 2002
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RSG Anomoly Detection System
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25 Mar 2003, 14:05
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well, shouldnt be too easy to give 1:1 newsscans and scan all the top gals. Should get easy proof of farming early in the round.
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25 Mar 2003, 14:06
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What is that star ?
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25 Mar 2003, 14:09
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It was a Stupid Dream
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by MadeMan
What is that star ?
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Game i made, multi cehcking system, its hella cool
Cross References anything dodgy every 10 "ticks" in the space of that 10 ticks
if you crop up in 70 ticks doing stuff more than once it is logged
all history in 100 ticks is logged (disk space ah0y)
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25 Mar 2003, 14:13
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hehe coool, disk space goodbye yes..
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25 Mar 2003, 14:16
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It was a Stupid Dream
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by MadeMan
hehe coool, disk space goodbye yes..
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well it takes about 25MB of space, as its all compressed
the thing takes AGES to process (around 10 minutes)
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25 Mar 2003, 15:34
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Quote:
Originally posted by Starbucks
well it takes about 25MB of space, as its all compressed
the thing takes AGES to process (around 10 minutes)
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heh, I'd say kinda worth it
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27 Mar 2003, 00:40
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saturday/sunday i wrote code to spot farms and found a few "funny" ones
sunday/monday the code was extended to attempt to spot the farmers by reverse roidflow tracking - it doesn't work often, but sometimes it does.
2 hours ago a new tool ran over all planets and all ticks spotting "suspicious" stuff (like someone launching 2 waves on a 18 roid planet which gets 97 new roids 2 ticks before the attacker lands - how is that for luck ? 
sectorscanning some of the "farmers" and "farms", shows that they arent "polluting" their attackers with heaps of uninited, or maybe they do - and their attackers init all the roids after capping them ?
now i got several neat lists which clearly show several funny things, including some "farm" gal(s) - and now ?
HCs of different alliances have access to the stuff since sunday, pacrew/multihunters "probably" also have it ...
anybody seriously interested in this info, can just send me a board msg - but you either need to have a trusted reputation or be official :O
otherwise i guess i will just have to do a funny posting with a bunch of coords (would be pointless to leave em out) ...
and yes - _THAT_ gal also appears in some of the reverse tracking ...
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27 Mar 2003, 01:54
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
Originally posted by Prince
if you can back that up with evidence then please email me
farming is probaly the hardest one to prove at times, as i said on another thread
the gal i assume your meaning is watched every tick
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why do they need to farm now? theyve had the boost they needed to become top 10 gals.
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27 Mar 2003, 11:37
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Quote:
Originally posted by Prince
if you can back that up with evidence then please email me
farming is probaly the hardest one to prove at times, as i said on another thread
the gal i assume your meaning is watched every tick
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Prince
are realy hunting multis. that reply was lame, farms are easy to find all the time if u use the right searchmethod
a tool that looks at dumps and compare losses gains and gives matches and details can easly spot farms and farmers..
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27 Mar 2003, 12:29
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ramihyn
saturday/sunday i wrote code to spot farms and found a few "funny" ones
sunday/monday the code was extended to attempt to spot the farmers by reverse roidflow tracking - it doesn't work often, but sometimes it does.
2 hours ago a new tool ran over all planets and all ticks spotting "suspicious" stuff (like someone launching 2 waves on a 18 roid planet which gets 97 new roids 2 ticks before the attacker lands - how is that for luck ?
sectorscanning some of the "farmers" and "farms", shows that they arent "polluting" their attackers with heaps of uninited, or maybe they do - and their attackers init all the roids after capping them ?
now i got several neat lists which clearly show several funny things, including some "farm" gal(s) - and now ?
HCs of different alliances have access to the stuff since sunday, pacrew/multihunters "probably" also have it ...
anybody seriously interested in this info, can just send me a board msg - but you either need to have a trusted reputation or be official :O
otherwise i guess i will just have to do a funny posting with a bunch of coords (would be pointless to leave em out) ...
and yes - _THAT_ gal also appears in some of the reverse tracking ...
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isnt this kinda "illegal"?
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27 Mar 2003, 14:39
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Quote:
Originally posted by TAFKAJ
isnt this kinda "illegal"?
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"Takes a thief to catch a thief"
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27 Mar 2003, 14:45
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Quote:
Originally posted by TAFKAJ
isnt this kinda "illegal"?
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i'm sure he was talking about geting the info from the db dumps which is in no way illegal.
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27 Mar 2003, 14:45
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Quote:
Originally posted by TAFKAJ
isnt this kinda "illegal"?
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I'd say he is just scanning through the PA dumps, which wouldn't be illegal.
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27 Mar 2003, 16:41
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Quote:
Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
i'm sure he was talking about geting the info from the db dumps which is in no way illegal.
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yes i do :/
but there is no need to ruin my ev0l forum image by admitting it in public 
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27 Mar 2003, 17:29
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It was a Stupid Dream
Join Date: Jun 2002
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actually, in the beta to my game i asked people to multi/farm
20 ticks later all but 2 of the planets were closed automatically
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28 Mar 2003, 08:23
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all closed planets should be listed to put mucho shame on their galaxies :P
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28 Mar 2003, 08:51
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Condemned to RP
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Quote:
Originally posted by genosse27
all closed planets should be listed to put mucho shame on their galaxies :P
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Who says there galaxies are involved?
But yeah listing closed planets with IRC names and alliances wouldn't be such a bad idea
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28 Mar 2003, 12:19
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Quote:
Originally posted by ParraCida
But yeah listing closed planets with IRC names and alliances wouldn't be such a bad idea
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28 Mar 2003, 12:30
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Quote:
Originally posted by ParraCida
But yeah listing closed planets with IRC names and alliances wouldn't be such a bad idea [/b]
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28 Mar 2003, 12:31
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Quote:
Originally posted by ParraCida
But yeah listing closed planets with IRC names and alliances wouldn't be such a bad idea
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28 Mar 2003, 13:00
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Quote:
Originally posted by ParraCida
But yeah listing closed planets with IRC names and alliances wouldn't be such a bad idea
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28 Mar 2003, 13:15
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Quote:
Originally posted by ParraCida
But yeah listing closed planets with IRC names and alliances wouldn't be such a bad idea
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An additional remark if they where reported by their own ally maybe. It would be unfair otherwise if you see 2 Planets where deleted from Ally XYZ (which makes that ally look bad) while in fact the ally reported them
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28 Mar 2003, 13:38
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i know one of the top 10 galaxys aint cheating...
but bout the others... im not to sure
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28 Mar 2003, 14:02
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Fightin-irish for life
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Quote:
Originally posted by ParraCida
Who says there galaxies are involved?
But yeah listing closed planets with IRC names and alliances wouldn't be such a bad idea
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28 Mar 2003, 14:10
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ensign forever
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Quote:
Originally posted by ParraCida
Who says there galaxies are involved?
But yeah listing closed planets with IRC names and alliances wouldn't be such a bad idea
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Which off course requires that info entered on signup.
hAl
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28 Mar 2003, 14:24
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Condemned to RP
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Quote:
Originally posted by hAl
Which off course requires that info entered on signup.
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no but stuff like [email protected] is kind of a give away isn't it. Besides, next round they are going to hardcode alliances in to the game.
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28 Mar 2003, 15:17
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Quote:
Originally posted by ParraCida
no but stuff like [email protected] is kind of a give away isn't it. Besides, next round they are going to hardcode alliances in to the game.
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well if you use that email you'd better have a pretty face to get you by in life is all I can say
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29 Mar 2003, 15:24
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Quote:
Originally posted by bagg
i know one of the top 10 galaxys aint cheating...
but bout the others... im not to sure
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how can you be sure an entire galaxy is not cheating?
The only one you can be sure of who isn't cheating is yourself.
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29 Mar 2003, 16:39
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Quote:
Originally posted by jornx
how can you be sure an entire galaxy is not cheating?
The only one you can be sure of who isn't cheating is yourself.
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30 Mar 2003, 14:30
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ensign forever
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Quote:
Originally posted by ParraCida
no but stuff like [email protected] is kind of a give away isn't it. Besides, next round they are going to hardcode alliances in to the game.
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Mayby but is [email protected] ?
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31 Mar 2003, 02:15
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I also know one of the top 10 gals (not the top gal) isnt cheating :P just look at their roid count, usually tells a tale as the top gal had heaps early on while the gals that didnt cheat have less, out of the top 10 take the 2-3 gals that have the least amount of roids and they are the ones that problably dont cheat while the rest have farmed atleast once, from my intel that I am sure of (stupid cheats.........)
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31 Mar 2003, 02:42
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Quote:
Originally posted by Frodo Baggins
I also know one of the top 10 gals (not the top gal) isnt cheating :P just look at their roid count, usually tells a tale as the top gal had heaps early on while the gals that didnt cheat have less, out of the top 10 take the 2-3 gals that have the least amount of roids and they are the ones that problably dont cheat while the rest have farmed atleast once, from my intel that I am sure of (stupid cheats.........)
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Thats really a poor way of judging if a gal is cheating at this point. Earlier in the round you might have been able to tell if a gal was farming due to a massive lead but now after one war and in the middle of another its easy to bring in loads of roids each night.
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31 Mar 2003, 07:56
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Quote:
Originally posted by Frodo Baggins
I also know one of the top 10 gals (not the top gal) isnt cheating :P just look at their roid count, usually tells a tale as the top gal had heaps early on while the gals that didnt cheat have less, out of the top 10 take the 2-3 gals that have the least amount of roids and they are the ones that problably dont cheat while the rest have farmed atleast once, from my intel that I am sure of (stupid cheats.........)
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if i was u i would edit my post to say. "fk off the all cheat" ^^
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