Predictions

[-=Zyth=-]

Ok so now we all know who is going with who...

Who is going to be the movers and shakers of r9?

I know who my money is on...

[Hicks]

How do we know who is with who ? As far as I'm aware only two blocks have been formed so it's still too early to make any comment on who will do well next round. Forgive me if I'm out of the loop and have missed something.

The only thing of note so far is that one of the people who gives the impression that he will do anything to save the community on the forums has helped build the first large "block" which will without a doubt attempt to stagnate the universe. Rather amusing.

[RexDrax]

Originally posted by Hicks

The only thing of note so far is that one of the people who gives the impression that he will do anything to save the community on the forums has helped build the first large "block" which will without a doubt attempt to stagnate the universe. Rather amusing.

Who would you be refering to?

I believe he is referring to chocese of madcows.

I think the olympians/madcows/virus block will win since there is little or no competition to match thier numbers/organization so far from any other block but I actually hope I am wrong.

[Stress]

What other block ?

[genosse27]

Originally posted by Montana
I believe he is referring to chocese of madcows.

I think the olympians/madcows/virus block will win since there is little or no competition to match thier numbers/organization so far from any other block but I actually hope I am wrong.

there is indeed some irony in it, when the one calling a senate to control blocks and such stuff, would create such a powerblock.
but i wouldnt believe all rumors u here these days...

[Silva baby]

is it really a block? i dunno i dun believe everything that is said~

[Guran]

If you people define a block as 3 alliances allied with eachother, fine. There will always be blocks in games such as this, bitching about it won't do any good. The thing is to avoid the so called 'powerblocks' with billion alliances in each block. I think it would be rather fun with 3 or 4 groups of alliances (blocks) fighting eachother. That's the best scenario I can think of.

[Legator]

didnt u know that VisioN is a block too ?

also we we will on the whole round and will have all top 100 planets.

[Little Timmy]

Originally posted by Legator
didnt u know that VisioN is a block too ?

also we we will on the whole round and will have all top 100 planets.

I know some of your members are on the chubby side, but I certainly wouldn't call them Blocks

[Guran]

Originally posted by Legator
didnt u know that VisioN is a block too ?

also we we will on the whole round and will have all top 100 planets.

But Legator. You don't even have 100 members. How are you supposed to have all top 100 planets?!

[Razorback]

Originally posted by Silva baby
is it really a block? i dunno i dun believe everything that is said~

in an universe with 20k players 250-300 are no real block, in an universe of 2k they control 12-15% which can be fairly called a block (compare to have the same influence and power you would need in the 20k universe a block with 2-3k ppl).

So infact in this microcosms this can be indeed seen as a block. As such a small universe nearly forces any alliance with 100-200 members to go solo or to limit itself to only 1 ally.

[OlaTa]

Originally posted by Guran
But Legator. You don't even have 100 members. How are you supposed to have all top 100 planets?!

each member makes 2-3 accounts ??

[Silva baby]

Originally posted by Razorback
in an universe with 20k players 250-300 are no real block, in an universe of 2k they control 12-15% which can be fairly called a block (compare to have the same influence and power you would need in the 20k universe a block with 2-3k ppl).

So infact in this microcosms this can be indeed seen as a block. As such a small universe nearly forces any alliance with 100-200 members to go solo or to limit itself to only 1 ally.

granted ur reasonin is sound

[Legator]

Originally posted by Guran
But Legator. You don't even have 100 members. How are you supposed to have all top 100 planets?!

shhhhhht, why the feck u know our secrets ?

[Colt]

Originally posted by Montana
I believe he is referring to chocese of madcows.

I think the olympians/madcows/virus block will win since there is little or no competition to match thier numbers/organization so far from any other block but I actually hope I am wrong.

heh, i never considered myself to be so outdated, but could you please specify these 'other' blocks?

[Akallabeth]

teh top planet will clearly be ministreh! \o/

we will destroy Legators evul multi army, cunningly overwhelm all the powerblocks being formed (by forming even bigger ones, ofc :P) and generally spread mayhem >

failling that, we'll simply resort to spamming the IRC chans of our attackers till they can't take it anymore :/

[Yama]

Originally posted by Montana
I believe he is referring to chocese of madcows.

I think the olympians/madcows/virus block will win since there is little or no competition to match thier numbers/organization so far from any other block but I actually hope I am wrong.

You're wrong..

[-=Zyth=-]

Eclipse and Olympians will fall apart like month old bread imo.

[RexDrax]

Originally posted by -=Zyth=-
Eclipse and Olympians will fall apart like month old bread imo.

I beg to differ. Olympians will do well considering we know each other quite well, ie LDK, Titans, DTA and Plush, and know each others capabitlity. Its a marriage made in heaven

[Crazeh]

its a Stagnation Block.. nutn else...

[Tesla]

Ministry has blocked wiv Ministry and Ministry to create the block Akallabeth ever so cunningly named 'Ministry'...

Now stop speculating about next round and start preparing for it or go out and get some fresh air and some fresh beer before the round starts =) Whatever u do dont speculate.

[Sirad]

lo Tesla never talked to you before :/
my loss hows things :-)
and good luck with ministry in round 9 I'm sure you do well.
sirad

[Teh_Necro]

Originally posted by Guran
If you people define a block as 3 alliances allied with eachother, fine. There will always be blocks in games such as this, bitching about it won't do any good. The thing is to avoid the so called 'powerblocks' with billion alliances in each block. I think it would be rather fun with 3 or 4 groups of alliances (blocks) fighting eachother. That's the best scenario I can think of.

Silence your sheer arrogance is deffining me.

A block is never measured on how may alliances are part of it, but instead on how influencial it is on the entire universe.

However this is besides the point. What happens when one of those blocks wins? Due to them sharing galaxies/irc/arbiters etc. They will _NOT_ be able to attack each other, thus creating stagnation, thus making people who are as forgetful as urself, or indeed as arrogant complain when the round is boring.

So please, will you and those complaining that theres nothing wrong with blocks, and indeed those forming them, get a clue.

Or do we have to see a 3rd rebirth of pa in order for people to wake up?

-Necro

[-=Zyth=-]

Originally posted by RexDrax
I beg to differ. Olympians will do well considering we know each other quite well, ie LDK, Titans, DTA and Plush, and know each others capabitlity. Its a marriage made in heaven

Can I just say 2 thinngs : Adelante and MDK

Fair enough all of you are going to be BC's or officers but hey, thats marriages, squabbles and arguments. Cyas on the battlefield...

[Crazeh]

Originally posted by RexDrax
I beg to differ. Olympians will do well considering we know each other quite well, ie LDK, Titans, DTA and Plush, and know each others capabitlity. Its a marriage made in heaven

It's a well know fact that 55% of all marriages ends badly

[Teh_Necro]

Originally posted by -=Zyth=-
Can I just say 2 thinngs : Adelante and MDK

Fair enough all of you are going to be BC's or officers but hey, thats marriages, squabbles and arguments. Cyas on the battlefield...

Can we have a bottle of champagne, over to this gentlemens table.

-Necro

[Yama]

Originally posted by -=Zyth=-
Can I just say 2 thinngs : Adelante and MDK

That was last round...I'd say the ppl involved in those alliances or those near it have learned a valuable lesson they would not wish to repeat, thus do things different.

Live and learn..

[RooKie]

Originally posted by -=Zyth=-
Ok so now we all know who is going with who...

Who is going to be the movers and shakers of r9?

I know who my money is on...

Anyone remember Fury and Deus? The got a new child called Eclipse. If ppl think these guys DONT wanna have an impact on the uni, they havent been around much.

[ComradeRob]

I would be highly surprised if there are any alliances which don't want to have an impact on the universe, in one way or another

I suspect that we will have a reasonable degree of impact on the round, whether we win or lose - the same can be said of most major alliances though.

[Guran]

Originally posted by Teh_Necro
Silence your sheer arrogance is deffining me.

A block is never measured on how may alliances are part of it, but instead on how influencial it is on the entire universe.

However this is besides the point. What happens when one of those blocks wins? Due to them sharing galaxies/irc/arbiters etc. They will _NOT_ be able to attack each other, thus creating stagnation, thus making people who are as forgetful as urself, or indeed as arrogant complain when the round is boring.

So please, will you and those complaining that theres nothing wrong with blocks, and indeed those forming them, get a clue.

Or do we have to see a 3rd rebirth of pa in order for people to wake up?

-Necro

Thank you for sharing your point of view. What I said (if you even read what I said) was that there will always be blocks (groups of alliances allied with eachother) and I rather see many small 'blocks' instead of only 2 huge ones.

Because I said that there will always be alliances who ally with eachother and there's no point in bitching about it round after round, you call me arrogant and forgetful? Or was it just because I had a somewhat different definition for a block than you, that makes me arrogant? Or are you here only to flame people cause they have different opinions or point of view than yourself?

[Tesla]

Originally posted by sirad
lo Tesla never talked to you before :/
my loss hows things :-)
and good luck with ministry in round 9 I'm sure you do well.
sirad

lo lo
Things are fine indeed... Gl wiv the cows yerself..
And if we will do well only time will tell =)

Tesla

[Teh_Necro]

Originally posted by Guran
Thank you for sharing your point of view. What I said (if you even read what I said) was that there will always be blocks (groups of alliances allied with eachother) and I rather see many small 'blocks' instead of only 2 huge ones.

Because I said that there will always be alliances who ally with eachother and there's no point in bitching about it round after round, you call me arrogant and forgetful? Or was it just because I had a somewhat different definition for a block than you, that makes me arrogant? Or are you here only to flame people cause they have different opinions or point of view than yourself?

My anger is only a reflection for my once held love for this game. The fact of the matter is, people should bitch and whine about powerblocks, as it is these that are the cancer of planetarion.

It is because people accepted Blocks that the game dwindled, each round would only offer a month or two of fun and then the rest would be a race to see who can get rights to the most retals or who's alliance would donate them the _Most_ roids.

Blocks are bad, and personally, yes i do see VIMP as a very large block, one that will require another huge block to combat it.

If you want to know what happens after that then i suggest you read the round histories of 5,6,7.

-Necro

[LeviUK]

Originally posted by Tesla
Ministry has blocked wiv Ministry and Ministry to create the block Akallabeth ever so cunningly named 'Ministry'...

Now stop speculating about next round and start preparing for it or go out and get some fresh air and some fresh beer before the round starts =) Whatever u do dont speculate.

Tesla you idle homo, does this mean you're actually going to be active this round? heh, gl to you and Ministry for r9 anyways.

[Tesla]

Originally posted by LeviUK
Tesla you idle homo, does this mean you're actually going to be active this round? heh, gl to you and Ministry for r9 anyways.

heh..thank you mr battyboy sir
And indeed I do intend to be active the coming round, same goes for Ministry, unlike last round =)

Tesla

[Teh_Necro]

Tesla, we must make babies again sometime.

-Necro

[Tesla]

Originally posted by Teh_Necro
Tesla, we must make babies again sometime.

-Necro

heh.. there is always the distinct barrier of ethics to stop us from doing such a thing Necro

- Tesla

[Teh_Necro]

Originally posted by Tesla
heh.. there is always the distinct barrier of ethics to stop us from doing such a thing Necro

- Tesla

It was never an issue last time around

[Tesla]

Originally posted by Teh_Necro
It was never an issue last time around

I was never there.. I sent Gitchin instead.. u should of turned on the lights

Originally posted by YaZZam
That was last round...I'd say the ppl involved in those alliances or those near it have learned a valuable lesson they would not wish to repeat, thus do things different.

Live and learn..

Im sorry but this isnt true people dont learn
people complain about stagnation but they still form blocks so it will still happen
the only way it wont is if every takes a leaf out of NoS's book from last rnd and go alone
If every1 did it wouldnt the world be a better place ?

Originally posted by Guran
Thank you for sharing your point of view. What I said (if you even read what I said) was that there will always be blocks (groups of alliances allied with eachother) and I rather see many small 'blocks' instead of only 2 huge ones.

Because I said that there will always be alliances who ally with eachother and there's no point in bitching about it round after round, you call me arrogant and forgetful? Or was it just because I had a somewhat different definition for a block than you, that makes me arrogant? Or are you here only to flame people cause they have different opinions or point of view than yourself?

The fact that the more alliances that join together big or small makes this more the worse and it would be harder to stop everything stagnating
look at it this way
it would be easier to break up a wall of 2-3 breeze blocks rather than a wall of 30 bricks
make sense ??
all they do is get more entwined and stuck in each other
its not as fun for gal members when this happens either as it leaves you less targets.

[RooKie]

Is blocks bad?

- Not really. They only become bad for the game when they are too strong and there isnt action around for the full round (stagnation).

Is stagnation bad?

- Ofc it is. None of the alliances around NOW will disagree with that.

Are we responsible enuff to be "smarter" then Fury/Leigion was in its days?

- I think so. I dont see a stagnating universe coming for next round. The alliances are not as SET in relations with other alliances. They are much more pragmatic now then before. An example is what happend in the last week before PA fell apart last round.

A block formed as a result of the clear dominance of Titans/LDK/ViruS/DTA/Plush and we got
Fury/MadCowS/Elysium/ToT/FAnG/WP/NoS to counter it.

I still belive this block would be able to have a strong impact on the round. And it just show the new pragmatic approach to the game if needed.

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by RooKie
Is blocks bad?

- Not really. They only become bad for the game when they are too strong and there isnt action around for the full round (stagnation).

Is stagnation bad?

- Ofc it is. None of the alliances around NOW will disagree with that.

Are we responsible enuff to be "smarter" then Fury/Leigion was in its days?

- I think so. I dont see a stagnating universe coming for next round. The alliances are not as SET in relations with other alliances. They are much more pragmatic now then before. An example is what happend in the last week before PA fell apart last round.

A block formed as a result of the clear dominance of Titans/LDK/ViruS/DTA/Plush and we got
Fury/MadCowS/Elysium/ToT/FAnG/WP/NoS to counter it.

I still belive this block would be able to have a strong impact on the round. And it just show the new pragmatic approach to the game if needed.

It wasnt really relations that kept alliances together in the previous rounds block wise. Relations and bonds between FLTTV werent really that great but it was the fact that war between the various alliances would be taxing and too much effort for its worth. The only example of alliances breaking up successfully would be FoS/Xeta but even then that was just two blocks that were breaking up.

The simple fact is, relations may not be good - but the necessity to remain together remains. Shared galaxies is the most awkward thing ever - and from what I see, this will be rife across your block. The 'relations arent as tight knit' excuse doesnt hold - because thats never been the problem before.

[RooKie]

You got me wrong, Zhil. What I am saying isnt that "our" group should break up if things go too well. What I am saying is that it would not be a problem for the forces in PA to take us down if they cooperated.

But we know there have been formations now, that stands well with everything else this round.

This wont be a boring round. This will be one of the best. It should be, as its the last of the "old" PA.

[WildCardz]

Originally posted by -=Zyth=-
Ok so now we all know who is going with who...

Who is going to be the movers and shakers of r9?

I know who my money is on...

My money is on the fact that speculatory threads like this exist at the beginning of every round.

Oh, theres nothing wrong with it either... keeps the AD nice and active.

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by RooKie
You got me wrong, Zhil. What I am saying isnt that "our" group should break up if things go too well. What I am saying is that it would not be a problem for the forces in PA to take us down if they cooperated.

But we know there have been formations now, that stands well with everything else this round.

This wont be a boring round. This will be one of the best. It should be, as its the last of the "old" PA.

I'm sorry, so this entire 'relations arent tight' rubbish is addressed to other alliances?

You are as transparent as a ghost.

And your last sentence is going to come back and haunt you. Mark my words, it will.

[WildCardz]

Originally posted by Zh|l
And your last sentence is going to come back and haunt you. Mark my words, it will.

Whoa Whoa Whoa...
The excitement makes me almost want to play r9 just to see what happens. heh almost.

I think you're misinterpreting or he is misleading you on what he's trying to say there... I don't think his remark was as serious as your reply indicates. "Old" PA means alot of things... After all, r9 is the last round before PA severely changes in r10 right?

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by WildCardz
Whoa Whoa Whoa...
The excitement makes me almost want to play r9 just to see what happens. heh almost.

I think you're misinterpreting or he is misleading you on what he's trying to say there... I don't think his remark was as serious as your reply indicates. "Old" PA means alot of things... After all, r9 is the last round before PA severely changes in r10 right?

You've missed my sense of humour

[WildCardz]

Originally posted by Zh|l
You've missed my sense of humour

Awwwn, perhaps I might catch it next time around.
"And your last sentence is going to come back and haunt you. Mark my words, it will."

Sounded like a threat when I read it the first time... but I could sorta see the humor now. :halfsmile:

[Cochese]

Right.

Hard-coding will mean drastic changes in alliance gameplay, and it will forever change the way alliances conduct politics amongst themselves.

The extent of the changes remain to be seen, but needless to say, the options range from free trade within the alliance (on the easy side) to the lack of being able to defend anyone outside your alliance (on the hard side).

These things don't come without their price though, and by no means are they anywhere near being set in stone yet.

Just an idea of what's on the drawing board, so you know.