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Unread 22 Apr 2017, 00:10   #251
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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

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OBVIOUSLY no matter how you look at it, it was bad pols for you.
Eh? What leads you to that conclusion. At the time it was potentially pretty good politics from us. You need to look from the time not from now. When we took your suggestion that we were at war and went for ptargeting there were lots of potential upsides to being at war with you. Often fighting another alliance is a good enough excuse to keep out of the big game/war. Ultimately that was our goal this round. It was quite possible to see it as a really good option; we fight norse for a week or so and wait out what is happening to the coalition against ult - if it wins excellent we can belatedly join it. If it loses then we can shrug our shoulders and kiss Ult's arse; win win. Totally cynical but we certainly considered it.
Unfortunately for us GM both managed to successfully appeal to our consciences and also to play a blinder by telling us he had agreed with you that our war with you was over. We were robbed of our excuse. No matter to him that it was untrue it was too late for us to go back to our original position (as we hit ult before we found out you were still hitting us and rejected munkee's approach). That does not change the fact that our original position was a potentially a sensible one for p3n (even including the likelihood of app or bows incs).
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As i said earlier in the thread the only reason why you wernt wiped off the universe was because of CT doing your "politics".
In the log earlier it quite clearly stated that the only tags u wernt NAPed with was BowS/ND/Norse basicly, eventualy you wouldve most likely been destroyed if it wasnt for this "anti-Ult block" comming around.
Timing! CT has been doing our politics since we joined the block. This was before. Also Politics! Most of those involved in the block or hitting ult would have to be crazy to hit p3n and shove us over to Ult's side. I am sure Ult would have loved that. Only Bows and App would have been stupid enough to do it, I am absolutely certain ND and even more CT would never have tried this as they can accurately see the likely result. This is exactly what Advantix has been complaining about us having tried last round without success but while we had very few options so it was possibly worth trying bad ideas as there were no good ones you had a much more open political landscape.
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Timing! CT has been doing our politics since we joined the block. This was before. Also Politics! Most of those involved in the block or hitting ult would have to be crazy to hit p3n and shove us over to Ult's side. I am sure Ult would have loved that. Only Bows and App would have been stupid enough to do it, I am absolutely certain ND and even more CT would never have tried this as they can accurately see the likely result. This is exactly what Advantix has been complaining about us having tried last round without success but while we had very few options so it was possibly worth trying bad ideas as there were no good ones you had a much more open political landscape.
But you are on Ults side? Not because anyone hit you, but because thats what you wanted all along.
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If you mean we are on ults side because we are not currently atacking them then I am glad to join you there along with basically every other ally Bb
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But you are on Ults side? Not because anyone hit you, but because thats what you wanted all along.
eh? now? you are taking the counterfactual too far if you are deciding that we never fought ult - or indeed expect we wont again, we know full well that we are doomed come pt900.

If - in the counterfactual - bows and app had hit us at pt350 (advantix keeps saying pre-pt 300, but the relevant raids actually landed pt 351-4 and 376-8) then we had theoretically hit back, we would have been hitting back because we were hit by them, not because we decided to be with ult 'all along' because the 'all along' scenario is what actually happened in the real world, that is that undisturbed by this theoretical attack and with (ultimately false) assurances that our stupid involvement with norse would be forgiven, we begun to hit ult pt399.

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Im not going to go along with booji's suggestion that fighting norse was good politics, its potential upsides were always vastly outweighed by the downsides. Even at the time the HC knew this was likely to be a long term dispute rather than temporary entanglement - given the long standing dislike, and the high chance of norse successfully fleetcatching as they did, due to ship build. This being true it was just adding an extra enemy, in order to delay an inevitable fight two or three days. Launching a full p-target just because they were mouthy in pms after hitting them with 5 in the pt 351 raid was downright stupid, had we waited for them to hit us as they threatened, we would have been the aggrieved party and had a far more legitimate reason to postpone involvement in the big fight, without looking so cynical. Doing it the other way simply made it look like we were looking for a fight as a dodge, to escape involvement in the bigger war - which then failed.
So I'm actually with Advantix - i disagree that hitting 5 out of 16 was a ptarget looking for a fight - but launching the full ptarget lt 376 certainly was starting a war as we were not yet sure norse would hit us. Given how norse operates they would have likely hit in the morning at whoever hit them that night which need not have been us.
There was by this point little chance of successfully remaining uninvolved, either we would hit ult or BB would have hit us and we would have fought bows/app at the same point regardless of the norse fight. I admit that the impossibility of staying uninvolved is a lot clearer with hindsight, with this argument with BB showing just how stupidly dead set on shooting themselves in the foot bows and app were, when at the time this could have been dismissed as not going to happen because it was irrational.
Nevertheless, that a fight with norse ever looked like a good idea is just a measure of the HCs desperation not to have to pick a side, even though in your hearts you knew it was impossible by this point, with us firmly in second.

It has been maintained all through this that fighting norse didnt matter, we could handle it, but there can surely be no doubt that the extra 40+ incs they gave us daily while fighting ult added to the pressure on us. Without that pressure perhaps we would have been more willing to fight on despite bows and app's reluctance to fight consistently.
Who knows, norse may have been the straw that broke the camels back.
Or of course they may have attacked us anyway because fighting other people we were vulnerable, but we will never know that.
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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

Wernt p3ng ingame NAPed with app tick 1 to tick600?
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Yes, I think thats right, but I was very clear i was talking about the counterfactual (that means it didnt happen). As I understood it app was one of those threatening to hit us if we didnt hit ult. Since when we did fight App they dropped the nap and attacked immediately with no cool down, I dont see that it actually limited their options to attack earlier if they had wished.
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Even at the time the HC knew this was likely to be a long term dispute rather than temporary entanglement - given the long standing dislike, and the high chance of norse successfully fleetcatching as they did, due to ship build.
There was no discussion of the length of time it might be for. Indeed there was no discussion of the possibility of fleetcatches. I assumed the rest of the BC room knew what we were getting in for.
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This being true it was just adding an extra enemy, in order to delay an inevitable fight two or three days.
This I am unconvinced by and think you are also suffering a case of hindsightitus. There was no saying it would be a delay of two-three days. As you say it was potentially a long war - the difference between us is not that great. And there is history of smallish but high individual planet score allies managing to stay out of the main conflicts of the round - indeed norse's win is an example. You need to remember that at the time we still thought app were doing the same as last round; were going for the win but just taking a while to build up steam. We thought an extra week or so delay over what we actually got and app vs ult would become the defining conflict. At that time neither side would have much interest in p3n except to court us to try and get us to help them. This turned out to be a totally wrong assumption but seemed sensible at around that time.
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...had we waited for them to hit us as they threatened, we would have been the aggrieved party and had a far more legitimate reason to postpone involvement in the big fight, without looking so cynical...
True it was ethically dubious.
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There was by this point little chance of successfully remaining uninvolved, either we would hit ult or BB would have hit us and we would have fought bows/app at the same point regardless of the norse fight.
Fighting bows and app would have been a much easier fight though. And at the time if we thought app was just delaying fighting Ult we also thought it likely that ultimately app would be too busy to hit us. And I would fancy our chances against bows and norse rather more than against ult.
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Nevertheless, that a fight with norse ever looked like a good idea is just a measure of the HCs desperation not to have to pick a side, even though in your hearts you knew it was impossible by this point, with us firmly in second.
You are probably correct here. But you are also forgetting that we had to fight someone. We could not go out and hit the block as we had naps with several of them. We had gal raid avoidance with ult so could not hit them. We had only a few alliances to hit and there is a reasonable chance they would have reacted similarly in terms of giving us long term incs (im sure HR would not have complained to us, they just would have been hitting back for weeks). On the other hand the way around we did it we got a nap with HR almost as soon as we began fighting ult. Can you imagine norse giving us a nap as soon as we were in difficulties elsewhere even if we had avoided them all round?

The best course would have been to have no raids up. But members never like that.
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Approximately from tick 150. We had nothing with anyone at tickstart.
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Wernt p3ng ingame NAPed with app tick 1 to tick600?
Sorry, nvm, read wrong
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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

Did you misread app for ult? Our NAP with app ran right through our fighting ult. We did not have a nap with Ult before fighting you. We had an agreement not to hit each other on raids (or similar, I no longer remember the exact details which were hazy anyway.)
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Did you misread app for ult? Our NAP with app ran right through our fighting ult. We did not have a nap with Ult before fighting you. We had an agreement not to hit each other on raids (or similar, I no longer remember the exact details which were hazy anyway.)
ye, sorry - read wrong
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Did you misread app for ult? Our NAP with app ran right through our fighting ult. We did not have a nap with Ult before fighting you. We had an agreement not to hit each other on raids (or similar, I no longer remember the exact details which were hazy anyway.)
How on earth is not that not an NAP?
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We got regular random incs from Ult, was most annoying. But definitely not a full nap. If they had given us a full on NAP things would have probably gone differently. It was one of the sore points when it came to deciding whether to join gm. They refused to give us a full NAP which implied they simply wanted to farm us as soon as the block was over.
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We got regular random incs from Ult, was most annoying. But definitely not a full nap. If they had given us a full on NAP things would have probably gone differently. It was one of the sore points when it came to deciding whether to join gm. They refused to give us a full NAP which implied they simply wanted to farm us as soon as the block was over.
Urm, afaik - Chimpie might correct me if my memory is wrong here, but pingu and ult was fully naped before you joined the block incs on us. Then we were fully naped again when ct/nd/pingu naped us.
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Urm, afaik - Chimpie might correct me if my memory is wrong here, but pingu and ult was fully naped before you joined the block incs on us.
I'll correct you. The deal was initially informal to keep the whine down, so only applied to alliance raids as long as the deal wasn't publicly known.
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I'll correct you. The deal was initially informal to keep the whine down, so only applied to alliance raids as long as the deal wasn't publicly known.
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Wonder if the Ult NAPers will attempt for a extention of their pt900 deal.
Im pretty sure they mustve realized by now that they could aswell be the ones getting farmed once the current deal expires
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I'm sure, GM will fix this.
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well, there is a point in a round when the time of talking politics is over, now is that time...
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Ultores has won the round, the question now is, do we have fun or do we give agar3s sleepless nights.
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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

I think it'd be nice to let them be for the rest of the round. That way, they can do it again next round.
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Yes. Maybe astatores might be challenging them next round?
Id reckon the Ult guys that went with FAnG this round wants back in Ult/Ast
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It would certainly make things interesting if there were two Ult tags of 60. If they fought each other anyway.
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It would certainly make things interesting if there were two Ult tags of 60. If they fought each other anyway.
From an Ult perspective I don't think that is meant to happen!!

Why would Ult change anything or anyone leave Ult lol.

It's the only alliance that run proper DCs and a full member requirement of responding to calls.


Obviously I do hope we have some competitors in PA.

Last round bad Politics cost Chimpie the round.

This round great politics secured a tick 650 win.
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Surely it would ensure they win every round. They would be the leader on both sides blocks. Sounds perfect!
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The 'block' seems to give up when they don't land.
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The 'block' seems to give up when they don't land.
No, "the block" didnt give up, it just went to fight off Ult support tags, then p3n/ND/CT decided that the round was over and NAPed ult.
Before the bombarments on ult stopped they were losing loads of roids.
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No, "the block" didnt give up, it just went to fight off Ult support tags, then p3n/ND/CT decided that the round was over and NAPed ult.
Before the bombarments on ult stopped they were losing loads of roids.
We lost some roids. Never had a -30% tough which would be loads of roids. Most of these roids came with enough salvage to re-init and none went to the only alliance capable of fighting us if they wanted to.

Get a grip: you fought us 4 vs 1 and stamina won it for us.
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P3n was losing roids considerably faster than Ult was. I have heard several times that we just needed to keep fighting and we would have been able to win over ult but that was just not realistic. We ended the war on 18k roids while ult still had 23k. We did not have the strategic depth (or to be honest the individual players) to win in a long term war. Nor did we have any inclination to in a round where that was not our objective.

The only way p3n could have won would have been by staying out of the war and being close enough to Ult that they would not hit us. Something other alliances would not like, and not a way we would want to win either.
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Get a grip: you fought us 4 vs 1 and stamina won it for us.
These quotes from Ultores players get REALLY boring to keep reading.

It is NOT and never has been 1 on 1. Whether it was Ult & Oddr (who were all sat in ult chan), Ult & heroes, Ult & Astaures etc. Even within your own arbi you have 100 with access.

As Chimpie always says, if you bring your block he will bring his. This round we saw Fang drop naps to work for ult and p3ng had kittenz, norse, fang, ast, ult incoming during the time we were fighting them. If general Ult members are being told that its Ult vs the world then you are sadly mistaken and to be honest ignorant.

I am not downplaying the defence skills in ult (Your attacking is meh) but it's really old reading the "uni blocked us" stuff.

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These quotes from Ultores players get REALLY boring to keep reading.

It is NOT and never has been 1 on 1. Whether it was Ult & Oddr (who were all sat in ult chan), Ult & heroes, Ult & Astaures etc. Even within your own arbi you have 100 with access.

As Chimpie always says, if you bring your block he will bring his. This round we saw Fang drop naps to work for ult and p3ng had kittenz, norse, fang, ast, ult incoming during the time we were fighting them. If general Ult members are being told that its Ult vs the world then you are sadly mistaken and to be honest ignorant.

I am not downplaying the defence skills in ult (Your attacking is meh) but it's really old reading the "uni blocked us" stuff.

A win is a win, ult get many, but don't bullshit the journey.
These quotes from non-Ult players get REALLY boring to keep reading.

In case my sig doesn't make it clear, I'm not exactly new. I've been both inside and outside Ult when blocks go at them. Its statements like yours, Munkee, and the attitude behind it, that keeps Ult members winning.

We are not North Korea, and Agar3s and Xerxes are not Kim Jong Un. We're not stupid enough to think the rest of PA just decided to sit on their hands, and not attack our enemies, and that Ult and its Glorious Leaders do it all. You literally made it sound like P3ng got Blocked and Ult had it easy.

And you wonder why round after round we sit in our chat and laugh, watching ourselves get mass blocked, we fight back, and we're not the ones whining at the end of the round.

I've been in other rooms when not in Ult, I hear the shit people say about Ult, and then I join Ult, and find a group of active, dedicated peeps, who follow orders, and only whine about shitty targets sometimes, but always wake up, always do whats needed, and always turn up for def, cuz we know it works, we trust our fellow members will do the same, and we know we have a good chance of victory when we do.

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These quotes from non-Ult players get REALLY boring to keep reading.

In case my sig doesn't make it clear, I'm not exactly new. I've been both inside and outside Ult when blocks go at them. Its statements like yours, Munkee, and the attitude behind it, that keeps Ult members winning.

We are not North Korea, and Agar3s and Xerxes are not Kim Jong Un. We're not stupid enough to think the rest of PA just decided to sit on their hands, and not attack our enemies, and that Ult and its Glorious Leaders do it all. You literally made it sound like P3ng got Blocked and Ult had it easy.

And you wonder why round after round we sit in our chat and laugh, watching ourselves get mass blocked, we fight back, and we're not the ones whining at the end of the round.

I've been in other rooms when not in Ult, I hear the shit people say about Ult, and then I join Ult, and find a group of active, dedicated peeps, who follow orders, and only whine about shitty targets sometimes, but always wake up, always do whats needed, and always turn up for def, cuz we know it works, we trust our fellow members will do the same, and we know we have a good chance of victory when we do.

And thats why we can be cocky little shits sometimes
Nice rant but totally off the mark to the point being made. +1 on your post count though I guess!
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Nice rant but totally off the mark to the point being made. +1 on your post count though I guess!
Yeah, i had to read his post twice to see where the hidden point/response i had missed was.
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Is that why we out-roid everyone when not attacked?

Most rounds, it is true that pingu sends more attack fleets in general than we do during a raid, however, that is down to 3 fleet attacking tho, which we don't allow for obvious reasons.
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Is that why we out-roid everyone when not attacked?

Most rounds, it is true that pingu sends more attack fleets in general than we do during a raid, however, that is down to 3 fleet attacking tho, which we don't allow for obvious reasons.
I thought that was down to Astatores escorting your planets.
I heard you also have been asking your members to escort you this round, so you must be well aware of this system
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I thought that was down to Astatores escorting your planets.
I heard you also have been asking your members to escort you this round, so you must be well aware of this system
Its ok buddy, let it all out, come on, its ok to cry.... There there, its gonna be alright i promise, no one is escorting yet, its all gonna be alright.

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Nice rant but totally off the mark to the point being made. +1 on your post count though I guess!
Your rant was about Ult not having it hard, and p3ngu apparently being blocked worse (You did name 5 allies there) and generally whining about how an Ult member saying 4v1 was not right. My rant was saying your full of it, and thats why Ult will keep winning. If you can't understand that (I have more hope that you could than Butch3r, tbh) I can't help you.
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Yeah, i had to read his post twice to see where the hidden point/response i had missed was.
Well its not like your reading comprehension is a widely admired skill across the forums...
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I thought that was down to Astatores escorting your planets.
I heard you also have been asking your members to escort you this round, so you must be well aware of this system
I want to correct that one. Xerxes never asked for any escort, we offer them. It's what you do when you are in a team! Don't know that word? Look it up, may help your alliance to function properly..
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Most rounds, it is true that pingu sends more attack fleets in general than we do during a raid, however, that is down to 3 fleet attacking tho, which we don't allow for obvious reasons.
To be clear p3n does not allow 3 fleet attacking. 1st week, last week. That is is. Rest of the time you need 1 or 2 def fleets home depending on the situation. 3 fleet attacking can potentially get you kicked - just ask Theodd.
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Nice rant but totally off the mark to the point being made. +1 on your post count though I guess!
Let me sum it up for you:

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To be clear p3n does not allow 3 fleet attacking. 1st week, last week. That is is. Rest of the time you need 1 or 2 def fleets home depending on the situation. 3 fleet attacking can potentially get you kicked - just ask Theodd.
Alright, I usually see a lot of 3 fleeting from you guys on us everytime you attack us tho. This round is an exception tbf, I don't remember you guys 3 fleeting a lot when you hit us earlier.

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I thought that was down to Astatores escorting your planets.
I heard you also have been asking your members to escort you this round, so you must be well aware of this system
I was refering to any round, wether we have an allied tag attacking with us or not. Highly doubt pingu can match our attack activity
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I want to correct that one. Xerxes never asked for any escort, we offer them. It's what you do when you are in a team! Don't know that word? Look it up, may help your alliance to function properly..
How would you know what Xerxes asked his members for? If he didnt ask anyone for escorts he could say so himself?
Not that its important, but funny you jump in to defend someone from something you have no fcking idea about.
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How would you know what Xerxes asked his members for? If he didnt ask anyone for escorts he could say so himself?
Not that its important, but funny you jump in to defend someone from something you have no fcking idea about.
This one should be easy to understand butcher, now you are just playing stupid.

Guppie = Ult member
Xerxes = Ult member

Usually when you ask for escorts you ask from your own ally, if Xerxes asked in channel, Guppie would probably know.

Yes Xerxes could have said he asked for them, if it was true, but according to Guppie which is Ult he didn't do this.

Could Guppie know something about the situation? Yes
Is it actually possible Guppie know more about them offering escorts then you do? Yes
Are you just trolling again? Probably
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This one should be easy to understand butcher, now you are just playing stupid.

Guppie = Ult member
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Usually when you ask for escorts you ask from your own ally, if Xerxes asked in channel, Guppie would probably know.

Yes Xerxes could have said he asked for them, if it was true, but according to Guppie which is Ult he didn't do this.

Could Guppie know something about the situation? Yes
Is it actually possible Guppie know more about them offering escorts then you do? Yes
Are you just trolling again? Probably
You are blowing it out of proposition.
Astatores planets has been seen escorting Ult members this round. Thats a fact.
Wich would explain why Ultores are able to outroid people so easily this round, due to having more attack fleets than everyone else, and having their 2nd tag escort some planets in main tag.
Xerxes has been asking people to escort him, maybe not openly in the ultores private channel, guess he must be running for planet win or something.

If GuPPie just phrased his post better, "I want to correct that one. Xerxes never asked for any escort openly in the channel while ive been watching, we offer them."
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This one should be easy to understand butcher, now you are just playing stupid.

Guppie = Ult member
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Usually when you ask for escorts you ask from your own ally, if Xerxes asked in channel, Guppie would probably know.

Yes Xerxes could have said he asked for them, if it was true, but according to Guppie which is Ult he didn't do this.

Could Guppie know something about the situation? Yes
Is it actually possible Guppie know more about them offering escorts then you do? Yes
Are you just trolling again? Probably
And the great thing is, if I could be arsed, I'd screenshot and upload our WA chat showing a bunch of us offering escorts, mostly because we had targets, but also had secondary/def fleets hanging around doing nothing, and escorting allows us to recall early to get back for def tonight. But hey, whats the point, Butch3r seems to know Ult better than we know ourselves
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we are at r71, xerxes have to win after this long time waiting
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Your rant was about Ult not having it hard, and p3ngu apparently being blocked worse (You did name 5 allies there) and generally whining about how an Ult member saying 4v1 was not right. My rant was saying your full of it, and thats why Ult will keep winning. If you can't understand that (I have more hope that you could than Butch3r, tbh) I can't help you.
Something is lost in interpretation here because you are responding again with some strange fringe argument.
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There's definitely some selective reading going on with you guys. I don't think anyone is suggesting this isn't fair other than the Ultores posters bringing it up time and time again. However as you attempt to correct others with your beliefs, I will continue to correct you where you are wrong.
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You are blowing it out of proposition.
Astatores planets has been seen escorting Ult members this round. Thats a fact.
Wich would explain why Ultores are able to outroid people so easily this round, due to having more attack fleets than everyone else, and having their 2nd tag escort some planets in main tag.
Xerxes has been asking people to escort him, maybe not openly in the ultores private channel, guess he must be running for planet win or something.

If GuPPie just phrased his post better, "I want to correct that one. Xerxes never asked for any escort openly in the channel while ive been watching, we offer them."
Do you want me to ping xerx so he can take the bait or?
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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

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How would you know what Xerxes asked his members for? If he didnt ask anyone for escorts he could say so himself?
Not that its important, but funny you jump in to defend someone from something you have no fcking idea about.
Its ok buddy, calm down... There there, its ok let it all out.
Obviously you know way better what goes on in ult than any of the members, its alright, i know, i know, you are soooo smart. There there...
You know that Xerxes has asked for escort the entire rnd, thats all that matters, its ok buddy...
Yes yes, we know, its possible to plant a money tree too, you go do that!?

On a different note, Did you know that retards often band together in groups of 49, call their group something like, unicorns, rainbows or the princess gang?
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