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5 Mar 2005, 18:01
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Freedom Fanatic
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Alienwares, worth the cost?
Just been messing around with a couple of different custom PC builders and on average alienware works out as being around about £500-600 more than an equivalent machine (Including a labour charge +On-site parts/labour warranty if I'm feeling lazy), so I was wondering if alienware machines were worth the large additional cost?
Anyone have any experience using them, are they as speedy and stable as they are made out to be?
Base specs:
AMD 64 3500 on an nforce4 mobo with 1gb ram + 80gb HD
17 inch TFT
Nvidia 6600GT
DVD/Cd-rw combo
Win XP home
Assorted other doohickeys
Low cost £1400
Alienware £1950+
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5 Mar 2005, 18:04
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Has Soup On His Head
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
Superbly stable, had mine for 2 years , only issue i had with it was when the powerpack died. They picked it up, returned it (eventually) in pristine condition, and its never caused me a hint of a problem.
Get the most up to date Graphics Card though. I got a Radeon9800 when i bought this and it was superb at the time, but now almost feels a little dated.
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5 Mar 2005, 18:10
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Freedom Fanatic
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
The only warranty I saw offered on the AW was a crappy tech support phone line.
I doubt a 6600gt is going to be old hat any time soon, im not a leet game wanker, dont need bleeding edge gizmos
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5 Mar 2005, 18:12
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-=Murderous Plush Toy=-
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
no, alienware is a rip off, if you don't know how to make your own, you gotta learn.
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5 Mar 2005, 18:12
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
There is really no need to buy an AW PC. Laptop, maybe, outside chance.
Tower? No.
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5 Mar 2005, 18:14
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Freedom Fanatic
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
I can build my own, I just dont want to, the cost of getting things delivered here or buying local pretty much negates the advantage of self building.
Plus i'm lazy
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5 Mar 2005, 18:15
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
can't comment directly on AW (sorry heh) but i and my friends have used mesh and ive never had or heard of any problems with them.
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5 Mar 2005, 18:17
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
I'm really not sure how you get £1400. I'm having trouble getting that specification over £1200 (including P&P, obviously). And that's with "conecessions" like making the 80Gb drive a 74Gb WD Raptor.
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5 Mar 2005, 18:19
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Lonely analytic
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
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Originally Posted by Ninja_spammer
The only warranty I saw offered on the AW was a crappy tech support phone line.
I doubt a 6600gt is going to be old hat any time soon, im not a leet game wanker, dont need bleeding edge gizmos
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EQ2 nuff said
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5 Mar 2005, 18:23
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Freedom Fanatic
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
Linky please.
doohickeys like 7.1 speakers wireles mouse/kb and shit.
They push the price up
EQ2?
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5 Mar 2005, 18:28
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-046-MS)
£97.5
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-015-WD)
£104.95
Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 Plus NCQ 300GB ST3300831AS SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-021-SE)
£114.95
AMD Athlon 64 3800 Newcastle 130nm (Socket 939) - Retail (CP-088-AM)
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Winchester 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (CP-101-AM)
£254.95
or
£167.50
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
£76.95
Zalman CNPS7700-CU Ultra-Quiet CPU Cooler - Retail (HS-010-ZA)
£29.50
Creative Inspire 5.1 P580 Speakers - Retail (SP-021-CL)
£36.80
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop v2.0
£24.95
Asus Extreme N6600GT GeForce PCX6600 GT 128MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-055-AS)
£126.95
Crucial 1GB DDR PC3200 CAS3.0 Dual Channel Kit (2x512MB) (MY-037-CR)
£79.95
Akasa Ultra Quiet 400W Paxpower Active PFC ATX2.0 PSU - Black Nickel (CA-012-AK)
£39.95
Hyundai ImageQuest L70S+ 17" LCD Monitor - Black/Silver (MO-018-HY)
£166.50
Coolermaster Centurion 5 - Black/Blue (No PSU) (CA-076-CM)
£33.10
Not including VAT.
£1400 with an extra 300Gb and 200MHz. Subtract those and it's back down to my estimate of under £1200. And that's from overclockers, who aren't necessarily the cheapest.
[edit]
Whoops, forgot the DVD-RW Drive. Add £40.
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LiteOn SOHW-1673S Dual Layer 16x16 DVD±RW ReWriter - OEM (CD-040-LO)
£40.30 (inc VAT)
Ignoring the core of the PC (mobo/processor/HDD/gfx) these are all component's I've found to be good, and for the core I went by other peoples benchmarks.
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5 Mar 2005, 21:02
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Generic funny comment.
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
I've just built the following system for just over £2000:
AMD FX55
MSI K8N Diamond
Two GeForce 6 6800 Ultras (SLI)
Two 512MB Corsair 3200XL Pro 2-2-2-5
Two 74GB WD Raptors
Enermax Noisetaker 600W PSU
I'm using my existing monitor, DVD Drive, KB, Mouse, Speakers, Case and copy of Win XP Pro which keeps the price down a little. That is about as top spec a system as you can get right now and not for much that more than the £1950 Alienware wants for that very mid-range system you described.
Buy the bits yourself and you'll save a lot of money, or if you were prepared to pay the £1950 Alienware wanted you could build a far better system yourself for that amount.
As for alienware experience, my brother bought a laptop from them a few months ago. It's very well designed and he's never had any problems with it. It's obvious that a lot of care and attention goes into their systems, but you really do pay through the nose for it and it's not like you can't put care and attention into a system which you build yourself.
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5 Mar 2005, 22:21
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Lonely analytic
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
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Originally Posted by Ninja_spammer
EQ2?
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EverQuest 2.
Graphics are like off the scale.
Sony thinks retail graphics hardware will catch up by 2006...
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6 Mar 2005, 01:50
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
Heh, I can safely say that I wont be playing Everquest....ever :-)
I saw some screenshots in a magazine and I didnt think it looked that amazing maybe they were toned down.
Basically Im not prepared to pay £2k for a system that isnt going to set my hair on fire with sheer uberleetness unless its the worlds most stable and indestructible pc , hand carved from mahogany by blind tibetan monks, so far alienware doesnt sound like that (except for their laptops) .
Oh well It'll be a couple months before I can buy this anyways by which time Intel and AMD will probably have upped the ante by something ridiculous again
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6 Mar 2005, 01:51
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mmm.. pills
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
From what I've seen of the AW systems they are very high quality machines. They even go as far as to tweak all the settings on each of the components to get as best possible performance out of the machine depending on your intended usage.
It's true you could build your own system for less and configure it all yourself, but if your looking for a good system that just works out of the box with bleeding edge performance they are a good buy.
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6 Mar 2005, 02:12
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Insanity Prawn Boy!
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
this is going to sound n00bish, but i'm looking to get a new PC at about the specs NS said at the start and would like to know if it would be cheaper to buy everything separtly and build it myself, or buy one ready made? I'd be needing a new case but not monitor, mouse, keyboard or anything like that
thanks
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6 Mar 2005, 03:35
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Cynical Optimist
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
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Originally Posted by xtrasyn
EverQuest 2.
Graphics are like off the scale.
Sony thinks retail graphics hardware will catch up by 2006...
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Mmm tis very pretty, not that I'm likely to play it mind..
heh anyway
Edit: Oh, and alienwares whole site is basically a "Why building a PC yourself is silly, buy from us!" discussion
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6 Mar 2005, 04:30
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Insanity Prawn Boy!
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
I have just found this on OcUK
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-046-MS) £97.50
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus 200GB ST3200822AS SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-016-SE) £66.50
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (CP-097-AM) £119.50
OcUK Value 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 184pin DDR Memory Dual Channel Kit (MY-004-OK) £64.95
XFX GeForce PCX6600 GT Extreme Gamers Edition 128MB DDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (PVT43GNDF7) (GX-023-XF) £116.95
HP dvd640i Dual Layer 16x LightScribe DVD±RW ReWriter - Retail (CD-000-HP) £59.95
AOpen H600B Super Tower 300W 24-Pin PSU (CA-004-AO) £54.95
Creative Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit 7.1 PCI Sound Card - Retail (SC-029-CL) £24.30
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop v2.0 - OEM (KB-018-MS) £21.95
Belkin F5D7000UK 802.11g Wireless PCI Adapter (NW-007-BE) £18.55
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition - OEM (OS-001-MS) £47.50
Subtotal £692.60
VAT £121.21
Total £813.81
not bad no?
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6 Mar 2005, 04:33
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
Why pay for XP and why the soundcard? Isnt there a 7.1 intergrated on the mainboard?
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6 Mar 2005, 04:38
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Evil inside
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
Now, what the F*** is alienware?
P.S I retired from geekhood years ago, so exuse my "ignorence".
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6 Mar 2005, 04:52
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Freedom Fanatic
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
Um, cos I dont have XP and I dont use warez........often.
I want high quality sound with room shaking effects plus this PC will probably become the main entertainment unit for the front room thus I want 7.1.
Alienware are a company who specialise in making high performance PC's mainly aimed at gamers, they custom tweak drivers and performance specs to put a little extra oomph in.
Oh and their cases tend to look stylish and sexy.
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6 Mar 2005, 12:13
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: Alienwares, worth the cost?
He wasn't talking to you when he was talking about the soundcard.
As to DemonDave:
What is the point of buying Value RAM, when you're buying otherwise supposedly high performance components across the board?
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Oh well It'll be a couple months before I can buy this anyways by which time Intel and AMD will probably have upped the ante by something ridiculous again
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Intel? Upping the ante? Don't make me laugh.
Intel haven't made a good home desktop chip in years.
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