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Unread 29 Oct 2003, 01:55   #1
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Wanted to post few words...

well i dunno if this kind of post is allowed here.. but i knwo it was a long time ago.. when i used to spend my time here...

Most ppl in this game dunno me i think..
Iv played from r2 ro r8.... left why pa lost its glamour for me..
tought.. as an addicted pa player... stayed inc ontact with most ppl i used to play in here.

Pa once was a cool game. with hundreds of players and a very dirty and deep politcs..

Now.. most ppl have left.. and few.. try to play.. thinking taht they could have fun like once they had.

Dont know.. but .. pa aint pa anymore.. instead of pax ... should b xpa.. would sound differented.. and i wouldnt fell like i had saw something good turning into something bad.. but just that something were dead.

maybe.. some ppl should think ( if they know ) what this game was... why it archived such success.. and why ppl is just leaving.

maybe the comercial appeal should be forgotten.. and once for a while.. forget the profiit and belive in something good. tha game dont have the 120k players like roudn3.. when we had a huge downtime.. ( most ppl remmeber that i think ) i could bet..
as a techie that i am.. that the code requires do not THAT much hardware.. like twas by that time.. when ticks took like 30 mins to run...

maybe ppl in charge.. should give this game a chance..
instead of killing its slowly.. witha cool dsing.. fancy new tools..
AND LARGE AMMOUNT OF SUCCESS OF OLD SCHOOL CLONES.


welll
here is my point.. really dont fell like flaming....
but more like.. "had to do it".


soz bout my english...

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Unread 29 Oct 2003, 02:58   #2
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Re: Wanted to post few words...

FNP 4ever

Hello Declan, long time no see.

Yeah you do have a point, but as it stands now no easily solution to bring PA back to its greatness. Who knows, maybe the new person(s?) in charge can get something going, only time will tell.
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Unread 29 Oct 2003, 04:23   #3
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well.. i hope you weren't expecting a dramatic change as soon as mrbrick stepped up. i mean we've got to let the round end first right?
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Unread 29 Oct 2003, 07:27   #4
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Re: Wanted to post few words...

PA is dead simply because the balloon bursted

there's no way to enjoy it as much as in the old days any longer

(compare with 60's hippietwats)
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Unread 29 Oct 2003, 11:15   #5
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Re: Wanted to post few words...

It'll be hard to bringit back to where it once used to be, very hard indeed... but we are going to try and improve it as much as we can, we're already listening to the players suggestions (suggestions forum + emails) and thinking about the future and more importantly WHAT PLAYERS WANT.

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Re: Wanted to post few words...

Then I got one word for you.

fewer ships, easier names, drop the races, re-instate the thief (and make it worthwile to use, its the best ship ever), participate on GD (where the majority of people actually post, no one likes a bone serious person so be jolly, okay?), Hire Zeus and make him post the announcementts

although the tone isnt 'as formal as required', its well worth listening to..I used to be in the PACrew back in r2-4 so I do have some idea how things should be run...

hello there

(also I have no idea if the above is still in the game, re-instated or removed so take my ranting with a bit of salt and mozart)
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Unread 29 Oct 2003, 11:55   #7
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but we are going to try and improve it as much as we can
"Improving" is what killed it along with the thousands of new rules.

Listen to everyone, bring back r2,3 or 4 stats.
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insert: dont listen to anyone that started in r4 or later
they really dont have any foundation to build their statements on.. (really)
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Unread 29 Oct 2003, 12:10   #9
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Listen to everyone, bring back r2,3 or 4 stats.
Do you close your eyes everytime someone says THEY DONT HAVE THE OLD STATS and it was the vast number of players that made those rounds good rather than just the stats.
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Re: Wanted to post few words...

I am sure the old round stats are to be found somewhere
if one would search properly..

the vast number of players did indeedy make the game fun.
but it would have been JUST AS dull if you inserted the old 100k+ player database and inserted new rules..

believe you me, I play games for a living
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Do you close your eyes everytime someone says THEY DONT HAVE THE OLD STATS and it was the vast number of players that made those rounds good rather than just the stats.
I have copies of the R2/3 stats I'm sure many other's do to in fact their even availible on several websites., heres a penny go buy yourself a clue.

Also how do you have any idea what made those rounds good ? There's a lot to be said for simplicity.
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I have copies of the R2/3 stats I'm sure many other's do to in fact their even availible on several websites., heres a penny go buy yourself a clue.

Also how do you have any idea what made those rounds good ? There's a lot to be said for simplicity.
PAteam are consistantly saying r2/3/4 stats are not available and couldnt be reintegrated into the game, anyways.


If the next round had r3 stats and 2k or even 5k players it would not be anything like the old rounds. The major factor that made those rounds good was the vast number of players. It helped prevent stagnation, it helped prevent bashing, all in all a bigger universe is a more fun universe. If you simply think that going back to old stats will magically make the game better you might want to keep your penny and use it yourself .
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Unread 29 Oct 2003, 13:13   #13
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Re: Wanted to post few words...

the old PA cannot be brought back, thats really not possible

but you could bring me back the stats and some real people who know what a politician is

NOT BOT DOERS (hi, LDK, Xan, RB =yes, I am saying RB, not that stupid wing of yours, bla bla bla)

who killed syn_sid anyhow?
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Re: Wanted to post few words...

I must say that, in my own view, the old version of PA was FAR better than round 10 version. But that is just me.
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Unread 29 Oct 2003, 14:08   #15
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PAteam are consistantly saying r2/3/4 stats are not available and couldnt be reintegrated into the game, anyways.

Odd for i9 they managed to recode the thief and pirate to r2 stats and they worked fine.

I can't believe this "advertising" of pa was just one half page in a comp magazine that sells less copies in a month than fhm makes in a day.

maybe advertise in fhm? :/
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Unread 29 Oct 2003, 16:14   #16
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Re: Wanted to post few words...

Dreadnought... i dont agree ..
advertising? what for?
We did that well in round 2 in round 3..
pa become the LARGEST online game.. ranked as #1 for month..
its not about advertising.. but about the old word.. community.
ppl just dont fell intrested anymore.
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Unread 29 Oct 2003, 16:25   #17
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Im with Idler and others on this one. Bring back the stats from the early rounds (2-4). It was round 4 that killed off the popularity (Because they took out the best bits).

OK, I do remember there was a lot of complaints about the Theif and Pirate ships back then, but the decision was not to tweak or work on it but to remove completely.

That made the game boring.

Somewhere down the line the community got split. Im guessing a lot of people who hang about in GD gave up about round 3/4 like I did - liked the community but thought the game no longer had the appeal.

I did think to play a couple of rounds ago, but after looking at the game rules and the pointless complexities that have been introduced (Races and so forth) I didnt bother.
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the old PA cannot be brought back, thats really not possible

but you could bring me back the stats and some real people who know what a politician is

NOT BOT DOERS (hi, LDK, Xan, RB =yes, I am saying RB, not that stupid wing of yours, bla bla bla)

who killed syn_sid anyhow?
Noone. He just randomly posts now and then.
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Hiya Declan

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Also how do you have any idea what made those rounds good ? There's a lot to be said for simplicity.
couldn't agree more.

But still: I like PaX better and better
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Declan! Wow, havent seen you around since Silver!
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PAteam are consistantly saying r2/3/4 stats are not available and couldnt be reintegrated into the game, anyways.


If the next round had r3 stats and 2k or even 5k players it would not be anything like the old rounds. The major factor that made those rounds good was the vast number of players. It helped prevent stagnation, it helped prevent bashing, all in all a bigger universe is a more fun universe. If you simply think that going back to old stats will magically make the game better you might want to keep your penny and use it yourself .
If PA Team say it then it MUST be true

You can't say how you can say that for certain, the Round 2 stats were unbalanced but fun, the Round 3 stats were simple, balanced and fun both sets are certainly an improvement on the calaminty of Round 10 stats, Spanner basically took races and regressed them, therefore reverting to an older model would probably make it more fun, get it ? As for the surposed lack of stagnation and bashing in Round 2/3/4 haha.
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Who is JC and why is he making a complete fool out of himself?
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Ah the good old days R3 was by far the best and most fun round. Also it was simple yet fun i mean we had no races just which path you took, War or Science.

Hey anyone remeber the old ship names like Ghost and the War/Star Cruiser etc, im getting very nostalgic now .
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Hey anyone remeber the old ship names like Ghost and the War/Star Cruiser etc, im getting very nostalgic now .
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I have copies of the R2/3 stats I'm sure many other's do to in fact their even availible on several websites., heres a penny go buy yourself a clue.

Also how do you have any idea what made those rounds good ? There's a lot to be said for simplicity.
i think i got a "copy" of pa round 3/4 somewhere. As far as i remember, it was the thing hiall got his arse banned for..
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'noone' liked r3 either, memory always is fascinating
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How this thread can be classified as a quit message I will never know...
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funny thing bout this games...
some faces never change.


i hope for a new old round...

more fun n
less bugs.. or at least.. old style bugs =]
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How this thread can be classified as a quit message I will never know...
Sorry i think it might have been me when i was drunk. I dont remember all that much of the weekend.

Moved to PD.
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i prefer races tbh, tho didnt play rd3/4, tho if im right in thinking that all u built was just thieves n pirates, then i must say, i wouldnt want to play them stats as it would be boring clearly i have no clue and will be flamed
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