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Unread 14 Jul 2004, 03:52   #401
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

mexico 2-1 ecuador
argentina 4-2 uruguay

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Group A
		X	G	Pts
roadrunner	3	8	17
Blastoderm	3	8	17
LHC		3	8	17
Colt		2	10	16
Ragnarak	2	7	13
1-X		1	9	12
Rids		1	6	9
Entium		0	8	8
Stew		0	8	8
				(117)

Group B
		X	G	Pts
Rumad		3	9	18
at0mic.c0w	2	10	16
JC		2	8	14
Inferno		2	8	14
Dace		1	9	12
Lupin		0	10	10
Evergreen	2	3	9
Apothos		0	8	8
midge5		0	8	8
				(109)

Group C
		X	G	Pts
MrL_JaKiri	3	6	15
Dante		1	10	13
Zharkov		2	7	13
sbOlly		1	9	12
Opus		1	9	12
Non.Human	0	10	10
Kurashima	1	7	10
Phang		1	7	10
Koen		0	9	9
				(104)
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

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mexico 2-1 ecuador
argentina 4-2 uruguay
Why is it the people who qualify best never do as well in the quarter finals - i might put a fiver on myself at ladbrokes to go out

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eeek! they are catching me!
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Caught, I'd say.
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

shut it you, and invite me to your party at once!
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

I thought I invited you already.

You're invited, want to come on the friday or the saturday?
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

im at work on the saturday morning, so probably come over after work, although i might try and swop my shifts so that i can get over on the friday, but there isnt much chance of that atm as we are short staffed
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

Good luck!

Call in sick!
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

if i call in sick my boss chops my bollocks off, so i dont think that i will be taking that option, as i say, i will probably just hhave to come over straight after work on the saturday, which means i will be there mid afternoon ish
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They weren't being used anyway
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if i call in sick my boss chops my bollocks off,
Then you would be ill anyway - you could just be pre-empting the telling him of it.
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

I really shouldn't do things like this if I want to shake off the ubernerd image I'm getting

final day analysis

Group A

Colt - 2G would get you through as long as LHC and roadrunner don't both get any X's. The Costa Rica-Chile game is vital. If it's a draw, you're fine. If it's away, you're ****ed. But if it's a home, you'd need an X from the final game.

LHC on holiday so won't be editing. Qualification may be a down to a tiebreak with roadrunner and/or blastoderm.

Ragnarak - Argentina robbed you of 2 points at the end of last night's game. Now you need 2X to go through.

Blastoderm - no current combination of results can prevent you going through

1-X - 2X gets me into the tiebreak for 3rd

roadrunner - if without an X today is likely to be in a tiebreak for 3rd. Oddly, can make qualification 99% by changing his Costa Rica prediction to a draw

Entium, Rids, Stew - are out

Group B

Lupin - Big edits needed to stand a chance. To beat Inferno/JC to 3rd, you need to gamble on Costa Rica-Chile being home win, and Brazil-Paraguay being draw/away, be exactly right on both (and then hope 3rd place in C isn't >16 points). Good Luck

Rumad - as close as you can be to guaranteed through. Only mass edits and freak results can stop you now.

midge5 - would have been a contender if his computer hadn't "blown up".

JC / Inferno - are equal. Whoever gets at least a G for Costa Rica-Chile (JC has away, Inferno has draw) will probably go through (unless you get X in the final game)

at0mic.c0w - only freak results can stop you too. Your superior G total keeps you ahead of anyone who might equal your score.

Dace - 2X and you're through. X in the first, and G in the second means you could be in a tiebreak.

Evergreen - can finish 3rd if you abandon the 1-1 'system' for the first game (for a home win). You'd still need to be exact in both, and hope 3rd in C isn't >15.

Apothos - could make joint 3rd by 2 exact predictions with Costa Rica-Chile as a home, and Brazil-Paraguay as a draw/away.

Group C


Dante - currently in 2nd place, which you keep by default provided your competitors don't get any Xs. (A tactical switch to 2-0 in your last match would mean if Zharkov/Opus/Phang get 3, you get 3 too) but that would be unsporting

Phang - 2 exact results would put you equal first with MrL and Zharkov. 1X + 1G gives you equal 3rd, but with only 14, the 3rd place players from the other groups are far more likely to qualify.

SbOlly - a lot depends on your costa rica-chile draw. If you're right in that (even G will do), you're in a 3 horse race for 2nd with Dante and Zharkov on the last match (and if you're all wrong in the last match, a likely tiebreak to qualify). Even if your costa draw is completely wrong, a final X can save you.

Opus - Like most in this group, do better than the others on the last day and you're through. 2G won't be enough, at least 1X probably will.

MrL_JaKiri - probably through. Worst case scenario is a tiebreak for 2nd (but you'd be on 17 which might mean 3 through from group C)

Kurashima - 2X gets you joint 2nd...

Non.Human - your best finish is 3rd (on 16) because Zharkov has the same predictions +1 point. Minor edits needed.
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

tiebreaks btw... if you're on equal points and equal X and G (because G has priority otherwise) I re-add your scores including 2 points for almost. In the unlikely event that they're the same, the person with the most correctly forecast draws will go through, then general draws, then closest to total number of goals in the round, then I scream and put my head through the monitor
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Now dante, he's neither a girl nor under 16. I'm afraid you'll have to look elsewhere.
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

i hpe i get through, bu even if i do i expext t be out of the quarter finals stage :-(
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Blastoderm - no current combination of results can prevent you going through
I'll take that as I'm cleanly through.

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I'll take that as I'm cleanly through.
this is obviously what you want...

well done blastoderm, there was a time when it appeared that you wouldn't qualify as a result of switching groups as I might have mentioned at the time in relation to you possibly kicking yourself, but subsequent predictions meant that you did indeed have enough points to qualify from any group, and for that you can be proud.

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this is obviously what you want...

well done blastoderm, there was a time when it appeared that you wouldn't qualify as a result of switching groups as I might have mentioned at the time in relation to you possibly kicking yourself, but subsequent predictions meant that you did indeed have enough points to qualify from any group, and for that you can be proud.

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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

HALFTIME : Costa Rica 0-1 Chile

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LHC		4	8	20
roadrunner	3	9	18
Blastoderm	3	8	17
Colt		2	10	16
Ragnarak	2	7	13
1-X		1	9	12
Rids		1	6	9
Entium		0	8	8
Stew		0	8	8
				121

Rumad		3	9	18
at0mic.c0w	2	11	17
JC		2	9	15
Inferno		2	8	14
Dace		1	9	12
Lupin		0	10	10
midge5		0	9	9
Evergreen	2	3	9
Apothos		0	8	8
				112

MrL_JaKiri	3	7	16
Zharkov		3	7	16
Dante		1	11	14
Opus		1	10	13
sbOlly		1	9	12
Non.Human	0	11	11
Phang		1	7	10
Kurashima	1	7	10
Koen		0	9	9
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

Un-be-****ing-lievable.

After going top with a 1-7 record, i havent got a single point since .... Bollocks
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

one goal from costa rica and you're back in it but as I said above, you need 2X (a late miracle but not impossible) to go through
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

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Un-be-****ing-lievable.

After going top with a 1-7 record, i havent got a single point since .... Bollocks :(


Although i'll be upset if i don't make it through to the next round i will be quietly satisfied if i manage to beat you (which looks like a realistic scenario atm)
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

:eek: it's 1-1!

kurashima... where did it all go wrong?

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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

if it stays costa rica 1 - 1 chile

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Colt		3	10	19
Blastoderm	3	9	18
LHC		3	8	17
roadrunner	3	8	17
1-X		2	9	15
Ragnarak	2	7	13
Rids		2	6	12
Entium		0	8	8
Stew		0	8	8
				127

Rumad		3	9	18
at0mic.c0w	2	10	16
Dace		2	9	15
Inferno		2	9	15
JC		2	8	14
Evergreen	3	3	12
Lupin		0	11	11
Apothos		0	9	9
midge5		0	8	8
				118

sbOlly		2	9	15
MrL_JaKiri	3	6	15
Dante		1	10	13
Kurashima	2	7	13
Zharkov		2	7	13
Opus		1	9	12
Koen		1	9	12
Non.Human	0	10	10
Phang		1	7	10
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common chile !!!
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

STAY 1-1 PLSTA!
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

just so long as SOMEBODY wins i am satsified
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Chile just lost, hahahaha

Go Costa Rica
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What was the final score?
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2-1

CR scored in like the final seconds, shameful.
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

I feel sick :(
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

Dace, you can still make joint 3rd (and therefore possibly go through) if you change to a score other than 3-1 or 2-0

or if you're brave enough to go for the draw, you can finish 3rd alone.

(of course you have to be exact for either of these to work)
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2-1 then
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mister X, what are my prospects like?
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Code:
LHC		3	8	17	3-1
Blastoderm	3	8	17	3-1
roadrunner	3	8	17	2-0
Colt		2	10	16	3-1
Ragnarak	3	7	16	2-1

Rumad		4	9	21	3-0
at0mic.c0w	2	10	16	2-1
JC		2	8	14	3-1
Inferno		2	8	14	2-0
Dace		1	9	12	2-1

MrL_JaKiri	3	6	15	3-1	
Dante		1	10	13	3-0
Zharkov		2	7	13	2-0
sbOlly		1	9	12	4-2
Opus		1	9	12	2-0
Phang		1	8	11	2-0
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you have 2-0. If you're exact you finish joint 3rd but still go out.

your only hope is to bet on a draw (or away) (and be right)

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LHC		3	8	17	3-1
Blastoderm	3	8	17	3-1
roadrunner	3	8	17	2-0
Colt		2	10	16	3-1
Ragnarak	3	7	16	2-1

Rumad		4	9	21	3-0
at0mic.c0w	2	10	16	2-1
JC		2	8	14	3-1
Inferno		2	8	14	2-0
Dace		1	9	12	2-1

MrL_JaKiri	3	6	15	3-1	
Dante		1	10	13	3-0
Zharkov		2	7	13	2-0
sbOlly		1	9	12	4-2
Opus		1	9	12	2-0
Phang		1	8	11	2-0


you have 2-0. If you're exact you finish joint 3rd but still go out.

your only hope is to bet on a draw (or away) (and be right)
late late late LATE edit due to router tripping out.

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you should have gone for the away...

the final score Brazil 1 - 2 Paraguay :eek:
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im the only person in my group to score points today. wewt at that if nothing else
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Btw for 1-X.

It should be no surprise at the result between brazil and paraguay tonight, IF Brazil had won said match then they would of been facing Uruguay in the Quarters (as uruguay would be the best 3rd placed team that faces the winners of group C) however by losing the match brazil became best 3rd place team and therefore guaranteeing another easy match against either costa rica or paraguay where they can then field their first strength team.

Of course this leaves poor old colombia facing uruguay which will not be pretty.
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

there is an automatic "it's brazil, they'll win" mentality... it's not just the predictors, but the bookies too

if brazil did "fix it" they won't be popular with people like Deffeh

tables in 2 mins... had to go into detail for blastoderm/roadrunner/LHC and Inferno/JC
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

I had to go into more detail for those on equal points. Recalculating with '2 for Almost' means Inferno goes through, and JC is out. Colt, Ragnarak and Zharkov can also consider themselves unlucky not to go through.

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scores  1-0 2-2 2-2 4-1 1-0 1-0 1-0 3-1	2-1 0-1 4-1 1-1 1-1 2-2 2-1 4-2	2-1 1-2

roadrnr 1-0 3-1 2-1 2-0 1-1 2-0 1-0 1-1 2-0 1-2 3-0 1-1 2-1 1-1 2-0 2-1 0-2 2-0
         3   0   0   1   0   1   3   0   2   2   1   3   0   2   2   1   0   0  3X 4A 4G = 21

LHC     2-0 1-0 1-2 3-0 1-1 3-0 1-0 1-0 2-0 2-1	2-0 2-2 1-1 1-0 2-1 3-0 0-1 3-1
         1   0   0   2   0   1   3   1   2   0   1   2   3   0   3   1   0   0  3X 3A 5G = 20

blasto  2-0 1-0 2-2 2-1	2-3 3-1	2-0 1-1	1-0 2-1	3-1 1-1	1-1 1-2	2-0 2-1	2-2 3-1
         1   0   3   1   0   1   1   0   2   0   1   3   3   0   2   1   0   0  3X 2A 6G = 19

Inferno 2-1 2-0 3-1 2-0 2-1 2-0 2-0 2-2 2-1 3-1 3-1 1-0 2-2 0-3 2-1 1-0 0-0 2-0
         2   0   0   1   2   1   1   0   3   0   1   0   2   0   3   1   0   0  2X 3A 5G = 17

JC      3-0 2-0 1-2 2-1 2-0 1-1 2-0 1-1 3-0 1-1 3-0 1-1 1-1 1-3 2-0 3-2 0-2 3-1
         1   0   0   1   1   0   1   0   1   0   2   3   3   0   2   1   0   0  2X 2A 6G = 16
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Re: [Football] Copa America prediction league

costa rica 2-1 chile
brazil 1-2 paraguay

FINAL TABLES

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Group A
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roadrunner	3	8	17
LHC		3	8	17
Blastoderm	3	8	17
Colt		2	10	16
Ragnarak	3	7	16
1-X		1	9	12
Entium		0	9	9
Stew		0	9	9
Rids		1	6	9
				(122)

Group B
		X	G	Pts
Rumad		4	9	21
at0mic.c0w	2	10	16
Inferno		2	8	14
JC		2	8	14
Dace		1	9	12
Lupin		0	10	10
Evergreen	2	3	9
midge5		0	8	8
Apothos		0	8	8
				(112)

Group C
		X	G	Pts
MrL_JaKiri	3	6	15
Dante		1	10	13
Zharkov		2	7	13
sbOlly		1	9	12
Opus		1	9	12
Phang		1	8	11
Non.Human	0	10	10
Kurashima	1	7	10
Koen		0	9	9
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there is an automatic "it's brazil, they'll win" mentality... it's not just the predictors, but the bookies too

if brazil did "fix it" they won't be popular with people like Deffeh

tables in 2 mins... had to go into detail for blastoderm/roadrunner/LHC and Inferno/JC
Imagine them doing something scandalous at international level, brazil, could you?

I mean what next? International caps for money?
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