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28 May 2003, 20:26
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Käptn Karacho
Join Date: Nov 2000
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another shuffle
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Since we now see a lot of accounts swapping owners due to the ability to update your emails (keep in mind, any prepaid credits for round 10 sticks to the OWNER of that email account) , we might be forced to reshuffle completely just before we start to tick. More on this when we know for sure.
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1) someone has been norty =)
2) make sure u clean out inactives. i.e. everyone who hasnt loged in within 24 hours of the shuffle or something like that
3) let ppl change their planet names again
4) 'just before' tick start might be a bit short notice to get the GC and minister spots sorted.
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28 May 2003, 20:27
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: The Back Porch Bar
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Re: another shuffle
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Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
1) someone has been norty =)
2) make sure u clean out inactives. i.e. everyone who hasnt loged in within 24 hours of the shuffle or something like that
3) let ppl change their planet names again
4) 'just before' tick start might be a bit short notice to get the GC and minister spots sorted.
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28 May 2003, 20:29
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Newcastle, UK
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this is really going to screw up the gal and cluster chans, after just getting all the p regging sorted we have to do it all over again...
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28 May 2003, 20:30
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Re: another shuffle
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Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
1) someone has been norty =)
2) make sure u clean out inactives. i.e. everyone who hasnt loged in within 24 hours of the shuffle or something like that
3) let ppl change their planet names again
4) 'just before' tick start might be a bit short notice to get the GC and minister spots sorted.
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hopefully, with regard to point 4), he just means moving around galaxies.
however, it will still screw up cluster/parallel alliances (my galaxy has both).
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28 May 2003, 20:30
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Join Date: Feb 2001
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That's what happens when Admins don't think "How can this be abused?" before doing something.
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28 May 2003, 20:30
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Wandering
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Seems people are coming up with more and more reasons for a shuffle atm. I think it is needed. Oh, and I agree with atomicwotsit. And I also wonder how many more shuffle threads we will have
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28 May 2003, 20:33
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Imposter?
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK / Canada
Posts: 717
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Don't shuffle after saying you wouldn't.
Stop people from changing their emails and/or delete people you know have swapped - i.e. those who's email addresses were previously attached to a different account than where they are atm.
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28 May 2003, 20:34
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Love's Sweet Exile
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Living on a Stair (Now Sword-less)
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No shuffle!!
Its a free round, which people seem not to care so much about. It doesn't have to be the case that the actions of a few spoil it for everyone, if they know of specific cheats, then delete them. Otherwise do what they normally do and pretend nothing is wrong
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28 May 2003, 20:37
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Under the floorboards
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No point in shuffling now... besides, people can swap after the shuffle too.
Just disable the email-change option (I have no idea why this was enabled :\). Then email everyone new passwords before ticks start.
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28 May 2003, 20:39
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p a r r a c i d a
Join Date: Apr 2000
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they should revert the emails back to their original addresses, and mail out new passwords to those addresses
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28 May 2003, 20:40
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IF there is a shuffle
Can you please make so people who have changed planet name are shuffled together and the ones not to rename put elsewhere?
so gals will either be full of no changers or full of ones which have changed their planet names
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28 May 2003, 20:41
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Love's Sweet Exile
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Living on a Stair (Now Sword-less)
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And people who no longer have access to those addresses?
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28 May 2003, 20:42
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Under the floorboards
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Quote:
Originally posted by SYMM
And people who no longer have access to those addresses?
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They can sign up a new account with their new email address.
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28 May 2003, 20:42
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Birmingham, UK
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Would this be a bad time to point out the word MIGHT used on the Message of the Day thing?
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The Message of the Day
Since we now see a lot of accounts swapping owners due to the ability to update your emails (keep in mind, any prepaid credits for round 10 sticks to the OWNER of that email account) , we might be forced to reshuffle completely just before we start to tick. More on this when we know for sure.
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28 May 2003, 20:42
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p a r r a c i d a
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: #titans
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Quote:
Originally posted by A2
Would this be a bad time to point out the word MIGHT used on the Message of the Day thing?
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might is the worst ****ing word to use..
they shoud make up their mind one way or another
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28 May 2003, 20:47
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Imposter?
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK / Canada
Posts: 717
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cicada
might is the worst ****ing word to use..
they shoud make up their mind one way or another
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Agreed, enough ppl have done enough organising already, without them doing even more and possibly seeing it fked.
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28 May 2003, 20:49
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#planetarion
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Birmingham, UK
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Originally posted by ComradeRob
They can sign up a new account with their new email address.
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People who have pre-paid for r10 need to be able to change their e-mail address so that their credits are tracked and they can recover them next round. If they couldn't change then there would be people who would lose credits due to changing e-mail addresses
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28 May 2003, 20:50
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Xenoc
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Great Britain
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Easy to solve.
Just shuffle all who changed their email addy.
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28 May 2003, 20:50
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Love's Sweet Exile
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Living on a Stair (Now Sword-less)
Posts: 2,371
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Quote:
Originally posted by ComradeRob
They can sign up a new account with their new email address.
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A system for transferring credits would be needed, but i can't see any other flaws now.
Don't shufle, reset emails, and send new passwords. Tell people that is what will happen ASAP, and they'll have plenty of time to signup again- with the added "bonus" that they will be in a gal with 10 other existing players- assuming not everyone does this
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28 May 2003, 20:50
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Käptn Karacho
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,360
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cicada
might is the worst ****ing word to use..
they shoud make up their mind one way or another
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i thought about adding this as 0) but seriously that would be to much to wish for...
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28 May 2003, 20:53
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: #dammit
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A shuffle would be best thing to do if this uneven galaxy thing isn't sufficiently sorted by the time ticks are supposed to start.
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28 May 2003, 20:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 145
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Quote:
Originally posted by A2
People who have pre-paid for r10 need to be able to change their e-mail address so that their credits are tracked and they can recover them next round. If they couldn't change then there would be people who would lose credits due to changing e-mail addresses
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Seriously, how often do you change your E-Mail adress? I think i didnt change my (main-)adress for 3 years now. And even if, i would most probably still be able to access my old one. So where is the problem?
I admit, there may be exceptions, but prolly just a handfull. That should be handled manualy by PMing the creators (or PA-Team?) then.
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28 May 2003, 20:58
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Registered Awesome Person
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,676
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I agree, if they haven't logged in by now then they deserve to be with inactives.
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28 May 2003, 21:01
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Connection Established...
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: United Kingdom
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Agreed.
Just hope one of the important ppl listens to this...
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28 May 2003, 21:05
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This stops account sharers how again ?
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28 May 2003, 21:06
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Founder of Planetarion
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Oslo, Norway
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erm....lots of people have logged in but not changed their name...perhaps they enjoy the neutral anonymity for now? (-:
But point taken, inactives shoudl not be mixed in with the rest.
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28 May 2003, 21:06
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Quote:
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This stops account sharers how again ?
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Who said its meant to?
Its just so if we have acc sharers in a gal we also dont have inactive no name changers aswell
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28 May 2003, 21:14
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DarnocYzarc
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Norway
Posts: 303
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cicada
might is the worst ****ing word to use..
they shoud make up their mind one way or another
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28 May 2003, 21:15
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DarnocYzarc
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Norway
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nonentity
I agree, if they haven't logged in by now then they deserve to be with inactives.
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My comp went down few days ago and I just logged in for the first time this night.
Does this mean I deserve to be with inactives :/
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28 May 2003, 21:33
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Originally posted by CrazyConrad
My comp went down few days ago and I just logged in for the first time this night.
Does this mean I deserve to be with inactives :/
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They say the shuffle will be just before tickstart so im sure everyone who is going to change will have done so by then
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28 May 2003, 21:43
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kindom of the Netherlands
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Quote:
Originally posted by SPQR
Seriously, how often do you change your E-Mail adress? I think i didnt change my (main-)adress for 3 years now. And even if, i would most probably still be able to access my old one. So where is the problem?
I admit, there may be exceptions, but prolly just a handfull. That should be handled manualy by PMing the creators (or PA-Team?) then.
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I have a special emailadres for stuff like this. I also use it for spam sensitive cases. I only read the mail there if I expect email there. It was deleted a month ago because I hadn't checked it for a while. I could reclaim it, but that might not always be possible.
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28 May 2003, 22:09
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Finland
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Quote:
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I admit, there may be exceptions, but prolly just a handfull. That should be handled manualy by PMing the creators (or PA-Team?) then.
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that's true!
Also... it sure was a misstake when u decided at the start not to make a new shuffle and informed about it. But we all make mistakes so think atleast I can forgive this one gl creators/PATeam what ever u decide to do. Ppl wont be happy no matter what u did, just do what u think is the best.
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28 May 2003, 22:38
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unknown to all
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: barca spain
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Quote:
Originally posted by SYMM
No shuffle!!
Its a free round, which people seem not to care so much about. It doesn't have to be the case that the actions of a few spoil it for everyone, if they know of specific cheats, then delete them. Otherwise do what they normally do and pretend nothing is wrong
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28 May 2003, 22:42
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unknown to all
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: barca spain
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Quote:
Since we now see a lot of accounts swapping owners due to the ability to update your emails (keep in mind, any prepaid credits for round 10 sticks to the OWNER of that email account) , we might be forced to reshuffle completely just before we start to tick. More on this when we know for sure.
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if u have seen it, it means u can prove it, so delete the abusers and lets carry on, if they cheat in this manner they will cheat all round, don't give them the option.
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28 May 2003, 22:57
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unknown to all
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: barca spain
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damn, in fact i am getting really pissed about this.
yet again the pa creators are moving the goal.
to swap accoun ts is the same as account sharing, they should be closed, deleted and the ip address should be banned, they are cheaters.
why hassle the fair playing community for a bunch of cheats, you have admitted you know they have attempted to cheat, do something about it.
Or maybe we can find a loophole in the users agreement so your mates can stay open again.
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28 May 2003, 22:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Noruega
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i also agree with the people that said this was a free round, and that another shuffle aint needed.
i do think thou, that they should take the gals that has less than 10 people, and put them into gals with 11-12 ppl.
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28 May 2003, 23:05
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 340
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Shuffle
Nooo It will only annoy more people imo
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28 May 2003, 23:06
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King of the Swingers
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Merry Ol' England
Posts: 12
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indeed. Down with the shuffle. F00k the system etc.
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28 May 2003, 23:08
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TeraHertz? Who's that?
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Behind you! B00!
Posts: 106
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erm...reshufle will stop password/nick trading how?
Pointless now. You've made the bed, now we all have to lie in it.
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28 May 2003, 23:08
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Angelus Mortis
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Mount Doom
Posts: 109
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Shuffle \o/
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28 May 2003, 23:09
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Property of merle
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Sunny Scotland :P
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Upto mister Spinner really, id prefer not, cos many people have stuff set up
But if you must you must, as you said on irc its a lose lose situation
other option is : just close every account thats had there email address changed and tell them to resign up
also disable email changing facility
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28 May 2003, 23:12
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Aes Elysium
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Fields of Gold
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My gal seems rather inactive, at least as of yet,
but shuffling is still a bad idea, hmmk?
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28 May 2003, 23:13
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Angelus Mortis
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Mount Doom
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i changed my email.
Cuz i dont use the old one that much anymore,
and the new one i still use.
I dont see a reason to get closed / signup again for it.
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wc 2 - 3:13:9 - Nox of Omnis una manet nox
r9 - 37:2:8 Nomen est omen of Somnium verum evadit Eclipse / SnugglehBunnies
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28 May 2003, 23:15
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Aug 2007
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The ****up has already been made though, whether we like it or not, a shuffle IS needed. (im certainly not in favour of a shuffle myself, but i fear i think its needed)
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28 May 2003, 23:18
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 82
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1. Delete all accounts not accessed before shuffle on Monday.
2. Shuffle the rest into 15-20 planets-galaxies.
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28 May 2003, 23:18
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Banned
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Barrow
Posts: 131
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Yeah for **** sake, everyone has there gal nearly sorted and trying to get them active on irc
not to mention the work going into cluster and para alliaces
how bent can u be heh
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28 May 2003, 23:19
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 82
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1. Delete all accounts not accessed before shuffle on Monday.
2. Shuffle the rest into 15-20 planets-galaxies.
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28 May 2003, 23:20
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 82
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1. Delete all accounts not accessed before shuffle on Monday.
2. Shuffle the rest into 15-20 planets-galaxies.
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28 May 2003, 23:23
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: #NewDawn
Posts: 313
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shuffle is bad :/
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28 May 2003, 23:29
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Banned
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Barrow
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who gives 2 shiny ****es ....
Round 3 here we come
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