PHP and user friendliness

[Xeno]

The current XP formula reads:

XP = roids * bravery factor
bravery factor = 5*min(2,target_score/planet_score)*min(2,target_value/planet_value)

Now, I haven't played this game since round 13, and was pretty much like "HUH?" when reading up on the changes. So I went asking a couple of lemmings about the "min" part of the formula, but they basically just went "WTF?!" and "SAY WHAT?" about the whole thing.

I then addressed the entire lemming community of hirr, suggesting it had to do with MINIMUM or perhaps MINING, but everywhere I looked the response was pretty much the same (I have counted twelve HUHs, five WTFs, half a dozen DOHs and the inevitable, twenty-something immediate suicides).

Then, probably by some whimsical coincidence, one of my brave comrades claimed the answer was to be found here.

It's a freaking PHP code! You might as well have written it in Esperanto, as both, to most readers, are equally gibberish.

Or was the smartest lemming wrong?


Xeno

[Xeno]

Originally Posted by idimmu

how would you write it?

I'ld explain what it is. Not many people will go to the lengths I did to find out what it's all about, hence you risk losing potential players.


Xeno

[Banned]

Originally Posted by Xeno

It's a freaking PHP code!

It's pseudocode, not PHP specific. I'm with idimmu though, how would you explain it?

[Shyne]

Idd its pseudocode, but I guess its possible some wouldn't get it.

add a line that says (e.g. where min returns the smaller of the numbers in brackets, e.g. min(2, 5, 1) = 1 )

[Banned]

Originally Posted by Shyne

add a line that says (e.g. where min returns the smaller of the numbers in brackets, e.g. min(2, 5, 1) = 1 )

The manual used to have an explanation of that :\

[Wandows]

or you can simply write it all out, its a bit longer, but i suppose anyone can understand that?

XP = roids * bravery factor
bravery factor = 5 * score bravery * value bravery
score bravery = target_score/planet_score **
value bravery = target_value/planet_value **

** score and value bravery can have a maximum value of 2.

[Kal]

Originally Posted by Wandows

or you can simply write it all out, its a bit longer, but i suppose anyone can understand that?

XP = roids * bravery factor
bravery factor = 5 * score bravery * value bravery
score bravery = target_score/planet_score **
value bravery = target_value/planet_value **

** score and value bravery can have a maximum value of 2.

I like that, I now understand the XP formula (I hadn't bothered to decode it before)

[Shyne]

Originally Posted by Wandows

or you can simply write it all out, its a bit longer, but i suppose anyone can understand that?

XP = roids * bravery factor
bravery factor = 5 * score bravery * value bravery
score bravery = target_score/planet_score **
value bravery = target_value/planet_value **

** score and value bravery can have a maximum value of 2.

Thats good!

Coupled with a pseudo example, I cant see anyone not understanding.

[furball]

Originally Posted by Shyne

Thats good!

Coupled with a pseudo example, I cant see anyone not understanding.

Shame there isn't one at the present, eh?

[coffee-]

Not sure if anyone could be bothered with this, whipped this up last night while procrastinating. Due to how much more information is need to be given to get an accurate XP calc this will work as an alias instead of a public command.
Works like this, you type:

/xp TargetValue YourValue TargetScore YourScore RoidsCaptured

xp {
  set %brave.value $calc($1 / $2)
  set %brave.score $calc($3 / $4)
  if (%brave.value > 2) set %brave.value 2
  if (%brave.score > 2) set %brave.score 2
  set %bravery $calc(%brave.value * %brave.score)
  set %xp $calc($5 * 5 * %bravery)
  set %value $calc($5 * 200)
  set %score $calc(%value + (%xp * 50))
  echo -a XP Gained: %xp Score Gained: %score
}

[Xeno]

Originally Posted by coffee-

/xp TargetValue YourValue TargetScore YourScore RoidsCaptured

Excellent! Thank you.

I added rounding, btw:

set %xp.final $round(%xp,0)
set %score.final $round(%score,0)

This way you avoid results with multiple digits.



Xeno

[higginz]

legend coffee, works really well

[Thrud]

Originally Posted by idimmu

maybe, just maybe, on the gal page by each planet put the amount of xp you'd get if you made a 100% successful hit on them. this could be done easily client side with some javascript and add pretty much no extra load to the server

This is something that I've just started but it does have the max gain from a completely successful hit down the side.

http://patools.thrud.co.uk

it is totally under construction at the moment so it will be changing all the time, but its there if anyone needs it. The rating is from 0 to 100, 100 being the optimum target for your current planet. I normally don't post url's to my stuff but this was appropriate to part of the convo.

Cheers Thrud