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Unread 8 Aug 2003, 17:42   #51
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Dunno about the claiming of targets, but i know when hc gave me a target to arrange an attack on it got hit.

Remember a lot of the virus members launched with their gals, if the gc of their gal was legion then they would be attacking a 'legion claimed target', same thing for fury.
As I remember it there were quite a few pure ViruS galaxies in R6 because most Fury/Legion galaxies weren't too hot on taking in ViruS players. There were certainly 3 ViruS galaxies (Including a joint ViruS XeTa galaxy) in my cluster which had no FLT and refused anything to do with us or the war.
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All in all, ViruS have had some good times and some bad. The Seraphim split made a not so good round even worse in round 9. The after effects ofc continued into 9.5. Not much point in arguing about our past performance before that because it's just history. Only thing we can do now is to look towards the future and apply all of our resources to succeed and get rid of the stigma that has long 'plagued' us.

Round 10 is looking promising and looks to be an enjoyable round.

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Unread 8 Aug 2003, 21:39   #53
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you weren't around in round 6, along with most of the other HC. There were maybe 4 of us that tried to run things back then and it didn't run well because we had little/no support from higher up and the maturity level of the memberbase was somewhere approaching the 3rd grade level.
Seeing how i spent the first half of round 6 as a very active BC, resigned when rl meant i either had to stop playing, or fail exams, then came back and ran infection near the end of round, i think i was there.
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I suppose I should give my 2 cents...The first round I was a member, R6, wasn't great for def, but I expected that going in considering the blocks of that round. I hear R9 was kinda **** as well, guess I'm fortunate I spent that round in the SS division. R9.5 I played and there wasn't a single uncovered attack on me, and in R8 I was a BA with Dovey and I know our group had quite a few decent attacks.




All I can really say is I'm quite happy with ViruS, and that's all that matters to me.
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All I can really say is I'm quite happy with ViruS, and that's all that matters to me.
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any1 feeling like getting the thread back on topic?

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Unread 9 Aug 2003, 04:17   #58
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in what sense?
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they had the glory days, just will it continue into this next round
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I feel like I should know what you're talking about, but I don't. As far as I see it, we haven't even had our 15 minutes yet.
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So, any madcows want to comfirm what ive heard?

That madcows as an alliance is disbanding, and most of them are joining Virus.
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So, any madcows want to comfirm what ive heard?

That madcows as an alliance is disbanding, and most of them are joining Virus.
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I feel like I should know what you're talking about, but I don't. As far as I see it, we haven't even had our 15 minutes yet.
virus may not have landed #1 but the did have there glory days. I remember round 7 when we were getting bashed every day until our GC put up the Virus bannor. He had just been let in. And all attacks just stopped.
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It was a good round, but I certainly would hope that wasn't our peak.

When people are recounting a history of the rounds and say 'Legion owned round a, LDK owned round b, ViruS owned round c, etc', that would be something I'd be satisfied calling our glory days.






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It was a good round, but I certainly would hope that wasn't our peak.

When people are recounting a history of the rounds and say 'Legion owned round a, LDK owned round b, ViruS owned round c, etc', that would be something I'd be satisfied calling our glory days.






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At one point ViruS were considered the best alliance defence wise. Think that was around R6/7 time.
maybe in rd 7 u had a good defence but definatley not in rd 6


Rock took virus roids in rd 6 and iirc they were some of the easiest attacks we had that rd
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mmm .. i see rather alot of "slating" of madcows in this thread, speaking of lack of disipline ? etc .. madcows is by far the best community i have ever had the pleasure of serving, to be honest we never needed high discipline, because we played for each other from our hearts, or at least our core did, something it will continue to do for many rounds to come. so unless u actually know, shhhh .. and leave us to our grass, n the barn down yonder, thnx.
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Seeing how i spent the first half of round 6 as a very active BC, resigned when rl meant i either had to stop playing, or fail exams, then came back and ran infection near the end of round, i think i was there.
I was about to comment on that. "Weren't around" indeed.

I can't comment on r7 since we had no ViruS members in the gal, and didn't attack ViruS. But as for r6; when I was actually playing (the first half of the round) my Ely/Xan gal had no problem obliterating ViruS galaxies wherever we turned - I appreciate that those were strenuous times though
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mmm .. i see rather alot of "slating" of madcows in this thread, speaking of lack of disipline ? etc .. madcows is by far the best community i have ever had the pleasure of serving, to be honest we never needed high discipline, because we played for each other from our hearts, or at least our core did, something it will continue to do for many rounds to come. so unless u actually know, shhhh .. and leave us to our grass, n the barn down yonder, thnx.
Noone's having a go at the community. MadCows tried to be more than that, they tried to be an alliance, they tried to achieve, they tried to be seen among the best. And they wern't that good. That is why people are having a go.
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Noone's having a go at the community. MadCows tried to be more than that, they tried to be an alliance, they tried to achieve, they tried to be seen among the best. And they wern't that good. That is why people are having a go.
of course you as being a non member prior or during the alliance have little knowladge into its realization and transformation from community to a alliance, so I'll enlighten you to that process.

I'm sure you remember that Round 8 was designated as the final round of Planetarion and that would be the end of the game.

We decided as people who were most active in the community at that time that it would be prudent and enjoyable to give our members who at that time had mostly been with us for multiple rounds the satisfaction of playing in a alliance with the people they had enjoyed the game with and who wished to end it with thoose same people.

so we achieved our objectives as we had set them our prior to us being a alliance, what we tried to do was continue to enjoy the game as it carried on past the 'last' round, which prehaps was a oversight in our part as it was ment for 1 round only. however i'm sure that each cow who stayed with us would have not prefered it in any other way.

It is thoose members who were with us who have the final authority to judge our success as it was them we played for/with and it was there project as well as the officers running it, so as you you and anyone else who is ' haveing a go' you can keep on going away from your computer before you make such comments.

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Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

I say we just disband every alliance and go solo!
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When will alliance leaders ever learn Murpheys law?

Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

I say we just disband every alliance and go solo!
please follow that phylosophy into its uttermost definate end in life and fail to propriate, why make the world suffer another generation.

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please follow that phylosophy into its uttermost definate end in life and fail to propriate, why make the world suffer another generation.

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Contrary to most beliefs, I'm not a pervert.

Perhaps you would be better suited around females, thus making them safe.
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Contrary to most beliefs, I'm not a pervert.

Perhaps you would be better suited around females, thus making them safe.
you missed the issue that delt with, but yes if you were near any girl you were trying to grop, I'd protect her,.... had a stupid mistake and edited
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Are you a French Canadian, sirad? I hope for the sake of the English language that you are
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Hmmm, I'm going to have to read this thread again later.
My Enigma code machine is on the blink, so I can't understand the last few posts atm.... (except Ahri's ofc)
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My Enigma code machine is on the blink, so I can't understand the last few posts atm.... (except Ahri's ofc)
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"they tried to be an alliance"
.. how does one define an alliance, a group of people who attack/defend each other on a regular basis ? if so then we certainly achieved that, madcows have never claimed to be the best alliance, or tried to be that even, all we tried to be was an alliance, loved by its members, which we, in my opinion succeeded in.
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.. how does one define an alliance, a group of people who attack/defend each other on a regular basis ? if so then we certainly achieved that, madcows have never claimed to be the best alliance, or tried to be that even, all we tried to be was an alliance, loved by its members, which we, in my opinion succeeded in.
By that I meant they tried to step up into the political game with the 'big boys', and actively tried to achieve their best.
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By that I meant they tried to step up into the political game with the 'big boys', and actively tried to achieve their best.
Is the leadership to blame for the alliances failure?

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Is the leadership to blame for the alliances failure?

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By that I meant they tried to step up into the political game with the 'big boys', and actively tried to achieve their best.
i find it funny you fault people for trying to do things, prehaps you should have just stayed in legion or where ever it was you were prior to titans beacuse you tried to do something, and you know what ? you never did measure up to fury or any of the other ' big' boys. I dont recall Titans ever winning a round that was seen to the end all you have got is a might have been win.
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i find it funny you fault people for trying to do things
I'm not against MadCows 'doing things'. I'm against them doing it, then trying to pass off the failure with 'Oh, but our community rocked'. Get it?
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I'm not against MadCows 'doing things'. I'm against them doing it, then trying to pass off the failure with 'Oh, but our community rocked'. Get it?
ah well you see I dont see a failure in our experiment as a alliance which i illistrated to you earlier if you read the above reply to one of your previous posts.

and i'd like to see where some one said , "WE failed but our community rocked".

you may have that preception however if you cant find words to support it please refrain from entering words for people who havent had that line of thought.
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By that I meant they tried to step up into the political game with the 'big boys', and actively tried to achieve their best.
& who is to say we didnt achieve our best, and thus completed our aims ?
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& who is to say we didnt achieve our best, and thus completed our aims ?
Cochese, for one.
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Scouse Though cochese was a valuable member of the community and alliance when he was there, I will tell you this LEARN to READ, our best was to have fun playing this game which you cant seem to understand, if cochese dident have fun playing with us then he should have joined another alliance, which infact he did,.

and; you can please some people for some time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Prepahs you thinkwe claimed to be a utopian alliance?.
I dont think you can find me 1 alliance which has had people leave it due to not being satisfactory.
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I will tell you this LEARN to READ
I won't bother responding to you again.
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I won't bother responding to you again.
thats ok because you reply to small pieces of the whole ignoreing most of the content.
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I dont think you can find me 1 alliance which has had people leave it due to not being satisfactory.
i can name you quite a few
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Right.

The way I saw it, cows was trying to do two things at once, and doing neither very well at all.

We positioned ourselves for a power grab, plain and simple. At the same time, however, we were unprepared to do what it took for victory because of the community issue, and doing "what's best for our members"...which was never achieved imho.

Victory was not achieved, and I don't think (m)any people had fun. I know I certainly didn't, it was extremely stressful to constantly be bailing water out of the sinking ship, as new holes formed and the crew abandoned ship in droves.

As leaders, we made bad choices for our members, putting them in a position to lose handily by poorly assesing the universe, and making all the wrong moves.

Our members (community) in turn, didn't have the guts to stick with it (or for that matter, be active like normal players), and without soldiers there is no army. 5 HC who practically live online does not make an alliance without players online to contribute fleets.

Spare the handful of people who toughed it out (you know who you are, thanks!) and kept m000'ing, fighting the war was pointless. When HC and officers would rather go into vacation mode instead of losing roids and picking the battles they can win, you know you're totally and utterly ****ed.

The war was lost without a shot being fired. How anyone can claim goals were achieved from that, I just don't know. I suppose it separated the skim from the real milk though.
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i can name you quite a few
that was poor woording on my part my food was on the stove cooking so i wrote it in a hurry, it should have read

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I dont think you can find me 1 alliance which has not had people leave it due to it not being satisfactory to them.
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We are back to where we started and this is how it will stay, end of story !
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No offence, but if virus will be like it was in r9, then it is not any good, as i can remember that bc in my galaxy never got any def fleets. Even HC in other galaxies were without defence. But if you manage to make virus working, then good luck.
judging virus with r9 expiriences is not fair, vvomm had no chance

btw, this thread sucks ass! can some1 plz close it
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judging virus with r9 expiriences is not fair, vvomm had no chance

btw, this thread sucks ass! can some1 plz close it
i pointed out the same thing about rd 9 :eek:
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