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Unread 24 Jan 2003, 21:58   #151
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Well although WTF would of still been a formitable block and possible winners of r5, i honestly doubt they'd of had it easy.

Although this all never happend and is never going too so i wont bother wasting time speculating.

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Unread 26 Jan 2003, 04:57   #152
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Community is a bad excuse for being ****e, besides FAnG already used up that excuse.

Any good alliance should be able to combine the both to ensure success, people want to have fun and also have a good planet.
The one contributes to the other, and you will see that 'all' top alliances have found a way to have both community and military coexisting in their ranks, its the only way to win.
You wouldn't happen to hold a grudge or anything against FAnG, would you Parra?

You are slightly too mature for that aren't you?

I could completely pick apart your post on the definition of good alliance etc. i.e what makes one, one that achieves it's aims with the hand it's dealt orone that wins using any and all means available to it. However I'm a bit tired so I'll just leave it at that.
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Unread 26 Jan 2003, 08:53   #153
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Tuba would have disbanded regardless - And it disbanded quite a while before people started backstabbing each other.

As you have no knowledge whatsoever of the reasons behind the alliance folding, the above comment is bull****.

I find it amusing that people such as yourself believe an alliance which was on the 'wrong' side for most of its existance would baulk at a minute chance of being backstabbed (again you know nothing of the internal politics between Tuba and its allies)

If so - you are thinking of the wrong alliance.
No disrespect but wasn't a main reason for Tuba's disbandment being that it couldn't achieve anything? Any war looked doubtful - noone was wanting/willing to break up. I personally think a WTF war would have kept Tuba in the game, since it would have been something to do and achieve for its members.
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Unread 26 Jan 2003, 08:59   #154
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No disrespect but wasn't a main reason for Tuba's disbandment being that it couldn't achieve anything? Any war looked doubtful - noone was wanting/willing to break up. I personally think a WTF war would have kept Tuba in the game, since it would have been something to do and achieve for its members.
But fury did what they did best...i.e. Sid and Biggdogg kept together and raped the rest.
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Unread 26 Jan 2003, 09:34   #155
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No disrespect but wasn't a main reason for Tuba's disbandment being that it couldn't achieve anything? Any war looked doubtful - noone was wanting/willing to break up. I personally think a WTF war would have kept Tuba in the game, since it would have been something to do and achieve for its members.
Main reason was it was a nightmare to run, and the command staff were exausted / tired of the daily struggle. Disolving the alliance had been on the table for a long time, but we resolved to finish the NoCeX 'war'.

It was time to wind it down, and so we did. A WTF v VE war was the least likely of any scenario, and even if there had been one - Tuba would not have stayed in the game, for the above reasons.

As for the 'couldn't achieve anything', it was the first time the alliance had been on the winning side since round 1 (although I would have greatly preferred keeping the WTF block without VE) - And we had rebuilt from the wreck of round 2 into a fairly powerful, certainly effective alliance - against all the odds (both internally and externally) - If it was going to end, it may as well have been at the 'height' of our achievement (overshadowed though it was by the pathetic sham that was round 5)

NB: If I took Torz's comment out of context, my apologies)
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Unread 26 Jan 2003, 12:45   #156
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I could completely pick apart your post on the definition of good alliance etc. i.e what makes one, one that achieves it's aims with the hand it's dealt orone that wins using any and all means available to it. However I'm a bit tired so I'll just leave it at that.
That sounds like decent discussion. Why not go the whole hog and make a new thread about it? I'd love to see you compare FAnG to Titans/Fury/Legion.
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Unread 26 Jan 2003, 15:02   #157
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Main reason was it was a nightmare to run, and the command staff were exausted / tired of the daily struggle. Disolving the alliance had been on the table for a long time, but we resolved to finish the NoCeX 'war'.

It was time to wind it down, and so we did. A WTF v VE war was the least likely of any scenario, and even if there had been one - Tuba would not have stayed in the game, for the above reasons.

As for the 'couldn't achieve anything', it was the first time the alliance had been on the winning side since round 1 (although I would have greatly preferred keeping the WTF block without VE) - And we had rebuilt from the wreck of round 2 into a fairly powerful, certainly effective alliance - against all the odds (both internally and externally) - If it was going to end, it may as well have been at the 'height' of our achievement (overshadowed though it was by the pathetic sham that was round 5)

NB: If I took Torz's comment out of context, my apologies)
Oh yes, that reminds me.
I never got to thank you or Lokken for getting me in BT exactly 2 days before you dissolved the alliance.

THANKS PAT!!
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Unread 26 Jan 2003, 15:26   #158
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I think you must have as I was quite bewildered when I saw your flame reply
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Unread 29 Jan 2003, 16:33   #159
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TZU members = 8 (unless you wanna join us Jester?)
and our junior alliance = 2 (your still with us cbk and chandler?)

first alliance who tells their membercount eh!

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Unread 29 Jan 2003, 16:37   #160
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MadCows aka Flak alliance of their block ?
MadCows aka The North American TFD (loosely based :P)


no offense amigo im not a canadian.
Im a noob yes, but a PROUD noob, so m00 to you sire!

(i dont wanna be called canadian sorry sirad..just had to post an answer to this leet guy)

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Unread 29 Jan 2003, 23:19   #161
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TZU members = 8 (unless you wanna join us Jester?)
and our junior alliance = 2 (your still with us cbk and chandler?)

first alliance who tells their membercount eh!
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Unread 30 Jan 2003, 12:54   #162
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omg has the venerable Sly-Tzu risen from his ashes again ??
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Unread 7 Feb 2003, 17:44   #163
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naa our Sensei is gone.... heard a rumour the evil LESION took him on their side! (but then again..aint they taking them all?)
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Unread 7 Feb 2003, 19:15   #164
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