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Unread 29 Dec 2005, 22:52   #1
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Censorship in british media

Wtf is a "D-Notice" ?

"The government has issued a D-Notice preventing the British press from publishing the name of the alleged MI6 officer named in the Greek media."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4566252.stm
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"do not publish" i recon
its sorta obvious
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Re: Censorship in british media

Yeah, but how can Blair & Co legally stop the press from publishing it?
(not that Blair & Co gives a shit about the laws)
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Re: Censorship in british media

Official Secrets Act, presumably.
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Re: Censorship in british media

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Yeah, but how can Blair & Co legally stop the press from publishing it?
(not that Blair & Co gives a shit about the laws)
serious national security concern if it was published.
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Yeah, but how can Blair & Co legally stop the press from publishing it?
(not that Blair & Co gives a shit about the laws)
I would imagine most societies have rules where the Government can intervene to stop something being published if it threatens "nataionl security". The problem is that they're the ones that get to define what this means.

Also, I'm not sure what legal standing this sort of thing actually has - i.e. if you would actually be imprisoned/fined if you broke it. I would imagine it depends.
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I would imagine most societies have rules where the Government can intervene to stop something being published if it threatens "nataionl security". The problem is that they're the ones that get to define what this means.

Also, I'm not sure what legal standing this sort of thing actually has - i.e. if you would actually be imprisoned/fined if you broke it. I would imagine it depends.
i think usually there are livelihood-threatening fines for national dailies, and slap-on-the-wrst fines for smaller sources (blogs etc). so i understand
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Re: Censorship in british media

Anyone know how to get greek news websites translated into English for the purposes of reading this article?

(It annoys me when they black out the names of individuals overseas involved in activities because were not allowed to know about them. Whats the ****ing point, the rest of the world now knows who they are)
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http://babelfish.altavista.com/ has a greek to english function. nfi how accurate it is tho
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T&F should be a civil servant
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I really, really really hope that that was a joke. But I'm worried that it wasn't
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(to be honest, i'm not sure if it is or not. I seem to remember that T&F did some sort of work for the government, but if i'm completly wrong about that...)
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(to be honest, i'm not sure if it is or not. I seem to remember that T&F did some sort of work for the government, but if i'm completly wrong about that...)
not wrong at all...

I don't understand why the public actually need to know the name of the guy though. It doesn't really interest me (unless I actually knew him but that's why it' been blocked)
Can anyone explain why it's such a bad thing?
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Names aren't released for a good reason. Imagine a women said you raped her and it was all across the news, with your name and photo. Although you could be cleared completely of rape since she made it up, it would still harm your career and image irrevocably.


forgot "n't" on the "are"
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I really, really really hope that that was a joke. But I'm worried that it wasn't
Why would you think it was a joke, do you believe the government are fluffy bunnies who tell us everything?
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Names aren't released for a good reason. Imagine a women said you raped her and it was all across the news, with your name and photo. Although you could be cleared completely of rape since she made it up, it would still harm your career and image irrevocably.


forgot "n't" on the "are"

Doesnt this happen already? I too think it's awful and would like to see this information kept private until said person is found guilty.
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Doesnt this happen already? I too think it's awful and would like to see this information kept private until said person is found guilty.
I thought the majority were kept private, but theres some rule about it i think. If only yahwe were here...
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Why would you think it was a joke, do you believe the government are fluffy bunnies who tell us everything?
You do know I was talking about Demon Dave's post, yes?
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but it makes more sense now....
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Re: Censorship in british media

Ah, Mr Fugue, your plan comes to light! Dastardly trying to start a war between China and the UK just so you can get exclusive television rights! And it's not even original!
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Re: Censorship in british media

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As it happens I was on the room when we briefed Dr. Kelly's name to the press and on the plane with the PM when we found out he had died. Man am I proud of that one.
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This is hardly a shock. The papers keep back much more than that in any case.

Basically on a lot of stories which are boring for the Government, a phonecall gets made to an editor inviting them to drop the story, then the Government offers them some other exclusive.

(and more)
Im not shocked to see that the newspapers are not publishing interesting stories. Becouse, as you so nicely point out, whoever is in goverment usually have a lot of fine methods in silencing the press anyways. Not to mention that "we" all support capitalism anyways.

Im just suprised to see how openly the censorship of the press is operating.
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