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DunkelGraf · 22 Dec 2005, 10:53

Ok, it was more than obvious that i will get roided once my shippies are out for their last mission. So i dont care about that attackers.
But when several angels guys and nd and no idea what else are going to fleetcatch and steal my last returning cr/bs it makes me kinda laugh!!!
Dont you guy have anything better to do? Some are not even sending pods.....

Not to get me wrong, I DO NOT CARE ABOUT MY SHIPS!!!!
I would have sent em on suicide again anyways.

But If playing like this, fleetcatching just to get cheapest ships and roids i am more than proud not to play in an ally with players like you!!!

Go Penis-Allianz go.......

DunkelGraf

btw: thx to ex for trying to cover that fleetcatch, you little support-ally...... \o/

bwtmc · 22 Dec 2005, 10:55

This really does some up the round for NewDawn. Maybe Angels have been taking notes?

By far the most pathetic act I've seen anyone coordinate in fifty five days.

I pity the self-interested idiot that put that together.

Chika · 23 Dec 2005, 02:00

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Originally Posted by bwtmc

This really does some up the round for NewDawn. Maybe Angels have been taking notes?

By far the most pathetic act I've seen anyone coordinate in fifty five days.

I pity the self-interested idiot that put that together.

seconded.

Alessio · 22 Dec 2005, 10:57

Very sad

NitinA · 22 Dec 2005, 10:58

Yeah VERY pathetic. Disgusting. To multiple-series catch a 1-man alliance made me loose a lot of respect for Angels & NewDawn. Has it really come to this?

*me sighs*

-NitinA

Nadar · 22 Dec 2005, 11:06

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Originally Posted by NitinA

Yeah VERY pathetic. Disgusting. To multiple-series catch a 1-man alliance made me loose a lot of respect for Angels & NewDawn.

Maybe the attackers also wants the "we win"-feeling

The_Fish · 22 Dec 2005, 10:58

Who cares? The round is almost over, ranks are decided. Don't attack if you don't want to get caught.

KweKweK · 22 Dec 2005, 11:07

Verry true Kargool, but a fleetcatch is a totally different story. Even in the end of a round its a bit to much in my eyes. I think this is a really sad move. With stuff like this we are effectively pushing players away from the game imo.

And fish I dont think thats a fair statement. Cause I cant see you guys fleetcatching every noob who happened to attack you. in my eyes fleetcatches are done on the extremly hostile planets to your alliance or on the members of an alliance that is at war with you. Please dont say anything about the peniz-ally beeing at war with you, because you can hardly take that serious from a 1 man alliance.

Kargool · 22 Dec 2005, 11:09

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Originally Posted by KweKweK

Verry true Kargool, but a fleetcatch is a totally different story. Even in the end of a round its a bit to much in my eyes. I think this is a really sad move. With stuff like this we are effectively pushing players away from the game imo.

Tbh, I've seen this one man alliances as interesting addons to PA, but one man alliances have their advantages and disadvantages. When u are alone, stuff like this can/may happen. If you want to avoid it, join an actual alliance.

Kargool · 22 Dec 2005, 10:59

Cry me a river. Just because he's in a one man alliance doesnt make him immune to attacks.

Hude · 22 Dec 2005, 11:07

Cowards.

KweKweK · 22 Dec 2005, 11:17

Offcourse you have a valid point with what you say, but isnt it the aim of PA to respect the little man and the little alliances aswell. Isnt that the reason why some restrictions came in to life? This is unethical in my eyes. This looks to much like nooby bashing.

NitinA · 22 Dec 2005, 11:17

Naaaaaaaa, to me that's not even it. I disagree with Kwek (sorry m8), in my opinion, fleetcatchs are a valid tactic in any aspect of the game. With the reintroduction of stealing, it has become more commonplace. I could understand catching a 1-man alliance's fleet with a few fleets for stealing, etc.; but to catch it with a multiple series catch (wave1 cr/bs, wave2 add fr, etc.) is just pathetic on a 1 man planet. It's sickening to see how ND & Angels have stooped to this rather lame level. It's great to catch it with enough to cap/steal it, but ridiclious and a waste of fleets to series a 1-man alliance in a catch.

-NitinA

Paddy · 22 Dec 2005, 11:25

Just to clear a couple of things up:
ND were approached by an angel for this fleetcatch.
There is a grand total of 1 ND fleet involved.
Tthe angel who organised it didn't even seem to know what the penis-alliance was and had to ask ND to found out that it was DunkelGraf.

In short I think this was actually organised in ignorance of who exactly was being hit.

Kjeldoran · 22 Dec 2005, 11:31

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Originally Posted by Paddy

Just to clear a couple of things up:
ND were approached by an angel for this fleetcatch.
There is a grand total of 1 ND fleet involved.
Tthe angel who organised it didn't even seem to know what the penis-alliance was and had to ask ND to found out that it was DunkelGraf.

In short I think this was actually organised in ignorance of who exactly was being hit.

Probably a bored/pissed off BC

Point is, this isn't some evil action of Angels to either hurt Dunkel personally or to kill his alliance or to make him quit this game. It's an open opportunity to steal ships and that's what we're doing I guess.

Paddy · 22 Dec 2005, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Probably a bored/pissed off BC

Point is, this isn't some evil action of Angels to either hurt Dunkel personally or to kill his alliance or to make him quit this game. It's an open opportunity to steal ships and that's what we're doing I guess.

Yeah from what I've been told that was basically what I assumed. I just really didn't like the fact that ND were being flamed for something they had virtually no involvement in so I felt I had to clarify a few things.

Alessio · 22 Dec 2005, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Probably a bored/pissed off BC

Point is, this isn't some evil action of Angels to either hurt Dunkel personally or to kill his alliance or to make him quit this game. It's an open opportunity to steal ships and that's what we're doing I guess.

Thats the thing.. if it was against dunkelgraf It would be understandable

Kjeldoran · 22 Dec 2005, 11:42

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Originally Posted by Alessio

Thats the thing.. if it was against dunkelgraf It would be understandable

How?

I don't see the fuss about being fleetcatches, it's part of the game right? Last night I got 8 uncovered waves on me and lost about 85% of my roids and got reduced to 200+ roids. And this by mostly HR planets (some the same on different ETA's). I don't see what the point would be in that either because Angels won't drop a rank because of it ...

Point is, these things happen because it's a wargame and there really is no point in wondering if it made sence or not, what does it matter in the end?

Ice|work · 22 Dec 2005, 11:54

I'm one of the planets involved in this. And i may should explain why i launched.

I wanted to attack the planet in question (not knowing it was Dunkelgraf) the whole round only because of his Ruler- and planetname. I already reported him to admins earlier this rounds because of it (Nothing happened tho).

Try to ask any german out there what the meaning of his planet/Rulername is or pm me on Irc (Ice|work).

I usually show my daughter (11) funny Gal-Pics and she's sometimes around when im inGame. And this is something i don't want her to read/see. Even tho i defended Wish while beeing closed because of the Gal-Pic he posted, this is imho something different. So don't expect politics and stuff behind this. It's just my personal reason to launch on him.

Ice...

NitinA · 22 Dec 2005, 11:52

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Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Probably a bored/pissed off BC

Point is, this isn't some evil action of Angels to either hurt Dunkel personally or to kill his alliance or to make him quit this game. It's an open opportunity to steal ships and that's what we're doing I guess.

Which is why the 2nd series has kill ships with fr? I don't get it. How do you steal ships that your FR fleets kill first? Enlighten me plz.

-NitinA

Kjeldoran · 22 Dec 2005, 11:58

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Originally Posted by NitinA

Which is why the 2nd series has kill ships with fr? I don't get it. How do you steal ships that your FR fleets kill first? Enlighten me plz.

-NitinA

I can't get on irc, I don't even know which BC ordered this so I sure as hell cannot guess his motives behind it and frankly ... at this stage of the game I don't really care about it

bwtmc · 22 Dec 2005, 11:21

The issue is that an individual (presumably a BC) shouldn't concern his alliance/others with a fleetcatch on an allianceless planet. It is not in Angels' interest to do the catch, it has nothing to do with them and their politics. Bringing friends is Planetarion it's what it's about. Bringing your alliance and/or allies is not.

Kargool · 22 Dec 2005, 11:25

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Originally Posted by bwtmc

The issue is that an individual (presumably a BC) shouldn't concern his alliance/others with a fleetcatch on an allianceless planet. It is not in Angels' interest to do the catch, it has nothing to do with them and their politics. Bringing friends is Planetarion it's what it's about. Bringing your alliance and/or allies is not.

I dont think there is much politics in this tbh.. I think it is : oohhh, that n00b who doesnt play with an alliance and is easy picking for some cool score is out with his fleet again. Lets grab his fleet.

While i hate fleetcatches and think they should only be used on disloyal shipjumping fags, its a part of PA and I dont see anything wrong with doing this on who ever it might be, and also if this planet has been hostile to ND/Angels I dont see anything wrong with hitting him.

Alessio · 22 Dec 2005, 11:24

He was sending his fleets away so u could roid him for free
and you even abuse that, while you top alliances have better things to do

Kjeldoran · 22 Dec 2005, 11:29

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Originally Posted by Alessio

He was sending his fleets away so u could roid him for free
and you even abuse that, while you top alliances have better things to do

Like what? Tell me something usefull to do when we got 2 more days and no chance on raizing or dropping a rank?

bwtmc · 22 Dec 2005, 11:31

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Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Like what? Tell me something usefull to do when we got 2 more days and no chance on raizing or dropping a rank?

He even said on AD he was sending his fleet on attack and when, heh.

Kjeldoran · 22 Dec 2005, 11:26

Lol, you guys are joking right? The round has 2 more nights. No ranks will be switched in the top5 unless pple start leaving the alliance all of a sudden. Why not have some fun for the last few days?

Fleetcatches ARE fun. Also, perhaps there's a REASON behind the fleetcatch? Maybe he roided an Angel/ND? I don't know but what's so wrong with a fleetcatch 2 days before the round ends? Nothing in terms of ranks will change anymore ...

Becides, since when are top alliances forbidden to attack players with a decent planet who do not belong to a big alliance?

bwtmc · 22 Dec 2005, 11:28

[quote=Kjeldoran]Blah Blah[quote]

Why speculate when you can find out?

Fourteen attacking fleets for the guy with no one to defend him.

Kjeldoran · 22 Dec 2005, 11:32

[quote=bwtmc][quote=Kjeldoran]Blah Blah

Quote:

Why speculate when you can find out?

Fourteen attacking fleets for the guy with no one to defend him.

I'm at work, can't get on IRC till tonight so ... kinda hard to find out

KweKweK · 22 Dec 2005, 11:26

True, I failed to mention that there are some alliances that are at war with ND/Angels that should deserve this honour alot more then peniz-alliance. Really nothing to gain except splitting the stolen ships between 7ish people attacking.

bwtmc · 22 Dec 2005, 11:51

Ah but KJ. You're saying this is an efficient, objective claim to value.

But it's not efficient when there's fourteen fleets going

bwtmc · 22 Dec 2005, 12:06

Surely the job was already done?

Ace · 22 Dec 2005, 12:10

yup I understand the reason and yes its a valid tactic of the game but I do see the points others make against this FC.

It really gives ppl the feeling this FC was un called for seeing he announced the lemming runs he would do, he doesn't care about loosing the roids on his planet and ships in the lemming run and he will even send the remaining ships in a new lemming run on who knows.

It looks a bit silly to send so many waves of a big alliance (with 1 ND planet ?) to FC the guy that gives a rats ass about his rank or roids atm and just wants to end the round with a lemmingrun.

my 2 cents

Kargool · 22 Dec 2005, 12:34

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Originally Posted by Ace

yup I understand the reason and yes its a valid tactic of the game but I do see the points others make against this FC.

It really gives ppl the feeling this FC was un called for seeing he announced the lemming runs he would do, he doesn't care about loosing the roids on his planet and ships in the lemming run and he will even send the remaining ships in a new lemming run on who knows.

It looks a bit silly to send so many waves of a big alliance (with 1 ND planet ?) to FC the guy that gives a rats ass about his rank or roids atm and just wants to end the round with a lemmingrun.

my 2 cents

Ehm.. Score is score no matter how u get it... Well, cept cheating ofc.. I did consider launching my crap fleets at Dunkelgraf but found out he would get it covered anyways

But come on. He announces that he's launching his fleets on AD, then he says he dont care about his ships, and now he makes a thread about how silliy it is to fleetcatch him??? Get real people... Cant you find something else to complain about ?

Alessio · 22 Dec 2005, 12:45

-8.3% roids at the moment of typing

Defence? Sorry we were to busy catching noobs
No we have nothing better to do!
The score of attacking 1 planet with a dozen fleets is still score

Sjor · 22 Dec 2005, 13:46

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Originally Posted by Alessio

-8.3% roids at the moment of typing

Defence? Sorry we were to busy catching noobs
No we have nothing better to do!
The score of attacking 1 planet with a dozen fleets is still score

half of it is on me and ebo and we have no problem losing few roids agasint 200k fr 2 days before round ends

Forest · 22 Dec 2005, 13:31

Two nights ago i was hit by 1500 arrows, from ND. Still havent gotten a proper explanation about it. No pods (and I only ahve 24 roids anyway), so I guess it was sent just to twat some vipers.

I would be even more pissed off if I hadnt of pre-empted it and stolen all the arrows

The_Fish · 22 Dec 2005, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Forest

Two nights ago i was hit by 1500 arrows, from ND. Still havent gotten a proper explanation about it.

What explanation are you expecting?

Forest · 22 Dec 2005, 13:39

ReligFree was checking to see wtf you was actually doing.

No wonder you lost a war when you are hitting small people, with no pods, when you should have fleets flying at the enemy.

Wishmaster · 22 Dec 2005, 15:57

someone care to explain in english what it means? or do I have to pm ice?

Forest · 22 Dec 2005, 16:20

The name of his planet, and the name of his alliance, imo, is there to offend. He isn't an idiot, he knows some people will take offence to it.

Therefor, he has to take some responsibility if someone decides to take action on it.

Tomkat · 22 Dec 2005, 18:12

Sorry, but didn't this guy "not care" what happened to his fleet?

So why is he whining about it being fleetcaught?

Out of all the people in the game, surely he'd be the one who least cares what happens to his fleet?

JonnyBGood · 22 Dec 2005, 18:15

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Originally Posted by Tomkat

Sorry, but didn't this guy "not care" what happened to his fleet?

One imagines he wanted to suicide it and not have it fleetcaught. It's the small-scale equivalent of fleet-catching a load of hirr planets a few days before the end of the round.

Forest · 22 Dec 2005, 18:32

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

One imagines he wanted to suicide it and not have it fleetcaught. It's the small-scale equivalent of fleet-catching a load of hirr planets a few days before the end of the round.

That would be a right laugh

JonnyBGood · 22 Dec 2005, 19:44

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Originally Posted by Forest

That would be a right laugh :D

You kill puppies on the weekend don't you? :(

DunkelGraf · 23 Dec 2005, 01:51

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Originally Posted by Tomkat

Sorry, but didn't this guy "not care" what happened to his fleet?

So why is he whining about it being fleetcaught?

Out of all the people in the game, surely he'd be the one who least cares what happens to his fleet?

I really do not care about my ships and roids! Within the next 4 ticks all my shippies are hopefully gone anyways. I had my fun this round again. Fooling so many dc by sending fake attacks and getting nice roids and ships.

The thing that amuses me is that a #3 alliance is using up to 14 fleets for up to 20 ticks just to have 3 ziks fleetcatch/steal fr/cr/bs worth 1 mio value from a solo planet! So thats 330k value each (one more one less). Thats a real great achievement id say.
On the other hand i see, at the same time, a member of the same ally getting roided to dust cause there was no def available. Or maybe you did not want to send def to him, i actually do not really know.

And for Ice reporting my ruler and planet name, its ok for him to do. It was not meant to be offensive towards anybody, just pure fun! Multihunters decided to have it changed, so be it.
But i think there are suerly worse names around...

One last thing we must not forget:

THIS IS A GAME
HAVE FUN PLAYING IT AND DO NOT TAKE IT TOO SERIOUS

Benneh · 22 Dec 2005, 18:23

I at least know i have my next rd planet name!

Jumpgate Probe on 6:7:9 in tick 1293
Origin Mission Fleet ETA Fleetsize
Attack Sekundär 1 15016
Attack your ships are mine 1 1302
Return Pink Lemming Fleet 1 5554
Attack Kumm loss mer fiere 1 3770
Attack The Lemming Horde 1 11000
Attack Roman Infantry 1 7107
Attack War Elephants 1 2822

(coords out) Thats pathetic tbfh :/

Cannon_Fodder · 22 Dec 2005, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Tweaker

Attack Roman Infantry 1 7107
Attack War Elephants 1 2822

Oh dear lord. One fleet was bad enough, but two on the same eta....

bwtmc · 22 Dec 2005, 22:03

Fourteen you mean..

Alki · 23 Dec 2005, 11:13

it was more of a, he attacked us, dc saw his oppertunity to fleetcatch he did, not knowing the owner of the planet. Whats the harm eh