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Unread 8 Feb 2004, 12:30   #1
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Galaxy Banners

After looking through the gal banners on your site allfather...it occured to me..

This is aimed at Alliances and those who run galaxies..

Do u think the standards of banners has dropped now legion and fury have left the game, theirs was the standard to beat in so many rounds, they were original, with great imagination and mostly devoid of naked pretty ladies.

Have we all given up on "good banners" ?

Have all the great graphics people left ?

Could R11 have a resurgence of banners its worth trawling the galaxies through to have a look at ?

Christmas came and Christmas passed and not many came up with a seasonal theme for their galaxy. I'm sure all the alliances out there have someone who can create something stunning for their members, its not like the intel sections of your places dont know mostly whos who by at least week 4... so whats the point i'm getting at you ask..

It made Alliance branding, its was excellent PR, it was an integral part of the game... did it really dissapear because of random, not private galaxies, or was it a concious decision on the part of alliances not to shout were here ?
Like not tagging in the gal name....

I miss them, does anyone else miss a decently created galaxy banner, not something thats been clipped out of a girly or movie site and hastily hosted ?

Our (alliances) challenge is to try to bolster a flagging commnity, maybe we have forgotten that the small things count as well as the big.. could allaince created gal banners be one of those overlooked small things ?
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My gal (4:8) had a christmas banner, it had teddies in santa-hats and everything.
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Our graphics god quit after R6
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Legion, Fury and Xanadu were always my favourite banners, i miss them .
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Re: Galaxy Banners

I always made shite banners

Something that seriously was shite in PAX regarding banners was the fixed size you had to use, combined with the fact that it got moved to below the gal...wtf good did that do
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I remember the old SL banner, now that really was class.
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I do beleive Legiond were good. LDKs wernt to bad either
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Re: Galaxy Banners

Fury had good gal banners??
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Re: Galaxy Banners

i love great banners. and u r so right, banners in the past were MUCH better
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Re: Galaxy Banners

Well so far we all agree that banner standards have dropped.. its more what can we do about it ?

Best Banner competion ?

some thing to get those graphics gods in production mode ?

obviously it would be a flaming session on whos was best , but overall that wouldnt be bad thing... pa forum members love a good arguement
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Re: Galaxy Banners

i am learning now how to use PS. but dont expect me to do good. i am not like those gods from the past
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Re: Galaxy Banners

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Best Banner competion ?
There was one in R3, and the SL banner won it. I'd like to see a return of the banner competition for the end of R11.
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Well so far we all agree that banner standards have dropped.. its more what can we do about it ?

Best Banner competion ?

some thing to get those graphics gods in production mode ?

obviously it would be a flaming session on whos was best , but overall that wouldnt be bad thing... pa forum members love a good arguement
erm no, I do not agree to that at all. Fact is, galaxy banners aren't that important anymore cause most pple hide asmuch as possible during a round. And when they are found, most are too lazy to get a decent banner up.

But I'm not more impressed about old fury and legion banners. It was just copy/paste friom existing symbols and then editting them with photoshop so it looks cool.

I'm not saying I do better, I'm just saying that I don't think any standards has dropped, it's just less important and pple put less time in it.

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erm no, I do not agree to that at all. Fact is, galaxy banners aren't that important anymore cause most pple hide asmuch as possible during a round. And when they are found, most are too lazy to get a decent banner up.

But I'm not more impressed about old fury and legion banners. It was just copy/paste friom existing symbols and then editting them with photoshop so it looks cool.

I'm not saying I do better, I'm just saying that I don't think any standards has dropped, it's just less important and pple put less time in it.

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If less time gets put in on making banners that look nice, doesnt that mean they do look 'worse' now?

You're kinda contradicting yourself there...
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Re: Galaxy Banners

tbh when fury and legion tagged up and put up their banners in rd 5 it sent a shiver up my spine
and the legion xmas banners were very good

also with it now being random fitting in all alliance logo's into a banner makes it harder now to get the same affect as when we had the priv gals
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If less time gets put in on making banners that look nice, doesnt that mean they do look 'worse' now?

You're kinda contradicting yourself there...
No, reread what I wrote. I said pple spend LESS TIME making banners. Meaning, pple will not spend time to make banners anymore. There are good and even better then the old legion and fury banners out there, but just 10 times less then back then. Probably cause back then there were 50k players and now there are 1.5k.

Ohh and, making such banners isn't an art. Even I can do that. What pple like Playetz do on the other hand, that's art

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Re: Galaxy Banners

Fury never had good galaxy banners. Any they might have had were probably Legion ones with a Fury logo thrown on, due to the massive amount of Legion/Fury galaxies over the rounds.



Round 3 Legion galaxy banners were the best, thanks to Grendel, as he created a certain format that everyone followed, that just looked so 'professional' compared to other banners at the time. After that they wern't really up to much, plus people didn't really look up to Legion anymore so the whole 'OMG, THEYRE SO COOL' factor drained away.


Legion had the whole Roman theme as well which helped in creating good banners.
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Fury never had good galaxy banners. Any they might have had were probably Legion ones with a Fury logo thrown on, due to the massive amount of Legion/Fury galaxies over the rounds.
Not entirely accurate, to my knowledge Fury never really took to the banner thing in the same way Legion did, however there were still some very good graphics around, from people such as empress, the main difference was that in Legion most people just used Grendel's work rather than create anything original, most of the Fury gal banners were made by the Galaxies themselves rather than just inserting a picture into a template.

Virus in there latter rounds had quite impressive galaxy banners, but by the time they really put any effort into it, the amount of attention people payed to banners had dropped.

Lets face it, banners went to hell after r4/5 and not many people could really be arsed, you got a few who would, and they often ended up making banners for half there alliance, but other than that, it was basically trash.
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Re: Galaxy Banners

Well, as a GFX maker, i noticed this a while ago, the banners did get lost, i cant tell if its because of the Random Galaxy or Private galaxy fadctor or Lazy GFX maker or less artistic people in Planetarion.

But what i Do know, is that we will try inside our alliance to make some nice galaxies banner, we have right now a banner/avatar/ciggie competition running on our private forums and we will be able to display them in a gallery in a while and we are doing that because art is fun and help us spending the cold night when no attack or defense is running clicking on the "galaxies" button and be surprise again and again of some Alliance banner made around....

What i would wish is PAteam putting the banner on the top again and not setting it as a standart size but giving us the choice of the format for an example and i am sure some banner will be back.

Oh and i forgot - Bring back the Private Galaxies
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so Morden, what fury gal pics you think are nice?
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/me thinks private galaxies = better banners
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Spinner, was it your decision to move the banner below the planet listings? That was a dumb idea imo. :P
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FFS I opened this thread in the hope to find some URL's with some l33t banners. All I see is dicussion what were the best banners.
Someone got an URL with some oldies?
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http://gladiator.donttrustanyone.org...s.php?cat_id=1

here ya go FFFFFFFFFFRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL :P
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Fury didn't even have a logo until the Round 4 Phoenix, we had better things to do than play about in photo shop. It's not the demise of Legion and Fury that's been the problem it's the demise of Planetarion in general, "back in the day" the game was full of talented players not just in GFX but in many other areas since the player base has shrunk the majority have moved onto pastures new, what's left now is just a sad reflection of what once was.
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It was mine, and the reason is obvious, the banners that looked exactly like the galaxy listing (:
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one of the problems might be that with the rounds now being random not private it is very difficult to make a good banner which can encaptuate 4 or 5 different alliance logo's
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we should go back to priv gals
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Standars on gal banners have definitively dropped after Legion & Fury said goodbye
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thx JC ( we lead with 65% against 23.3)
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It was mine, and the reason is obvious, the banners that looked exactly like the galaxy listing (:
That was never really a problem, it rarely happened and would only cause problems if the person looking at the galaxy was a moron, in which case they don't deserve to be encouraged to play.
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It was mine, and the reason is obvious, the banners that looked exactly like the galaxy listing (:
heh, can't you add it to the already 50 pages long text of rules? I mean, I understand why this got changed, but how about you simply write it in the rules, then not so much will risk to abuse it

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That was never really a problem, it rarely happened and would only cause problems if the person looking at the galaxy was a moron, in which case they don't deserve to be encouraged to play.
hilarious, Hicks commenting on the level of intelligence of other PA players ... Stick to what you know I suggest.

(ohh and yes, it's pretty stupid to mix the pic with the actual coords)

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/me thinks private galaxies = better banners
How can you say that when the round 3 gal pics were so good ie: SL, VTS, WP....etc
Even AIM had a pretty decent logo for gals.

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I think it wud be nice perhaps to see these old style banners brought back alive, might bring some spirit back into PA.
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Tuba had some very nice banners - Ooooomph!
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the last 1 is ok
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Re: Galaxy Banners

Grendel & Empress made some exceptionally good pictures.

If anyone want me to do graphics for them, send me a PM and I'll see what I can do. I made a few Fury banners in r5, and alot of banners for r4 wich where kinda decent imho.
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i made some for my ******** (PA-clone) gal

http://www.geocities.com/aceit4u/Gal...spirospero.jpg
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http://www.geocities.com/aceit4u/Gal...Galbanner4.jpg
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what do u ppl think??? i know i need to work on it. I prommis i will.

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I think geocities **** **** to be correct.
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i cant access thos pictures Ace :-( not authorized?
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i will try to do something about it
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