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AllFather|away · 2 Mar 2004, 20:15

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March 1, 2004
Donald Savage
Headquarters, Washington
(Phone: 202/358-1547)

Guy Webster
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
(Phone: 818/354-5011)
<br /.NOTE TO EDITORS: N04-038

NASA HEADQUARTERS MARS-ROVER OPPORTUNITY PRESS BRIEFING MARCH 2

Significant findings from NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity, now exploring Meridiani Planum
on Mars, will be announced at a press briefing at 2 p.m. EST, Tuesday, March 2, 2004, at NASA
Headquarters, Washington.

The briefing will originate from the James E. Webb Auditorium, 300 E St., S.W., Washington, and will
be carried live on NASA TV with two-way question-and-answer capability for reporters covering the
event from participating NASA centers.

Dr. Ed Weiler, Associate Administrator, Office of Space Science at NASA Headquarters, will make
opening remarks.

For a live webcast of the briefing and information about NASA TV on the Internet, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/ntv

Its on now, and you know what they managed to announce?:

They think they found proof that liquid water was on mars.
They think they see proof of that from a rock.

I thought water on mars was old news, and seeing proof that it tuched a rock isnt that exciting as water normaly stay down on the ground, not levitating above it not tuching anyhing...

MrL_JaKiri · 2 Mar 2004, 20:17

Water on mars is old news.

Liquid water on mars isn't.

AllFather|away · 2 Mar 2004, 20:18

same shit, different wrapping.

MrL_JaKiri · 2 Mar 2004, 20:19

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Originally Posted by AllFather|away

same shit, different wrapping.

It's a significant difference. Of course, you're obviously too important to notice this, Mr God Sir.

AllFather|away · 2 Mar 2004, 20:21

For water to first freeze, it had to be liquid.....

pablissimo · 2 Mar 2004, 20:23

He's got a point, Jim

MrL_JaKiri · 2 Mar 2004, 20:23

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Originally Posted by AllFather|away

For water to first freeze, it had to be liquid.....

Yes, but noone said it ever froze.

Furthermore, even if you assume it was once liquid, you don't know if it

a. froze not on mars

b. was liquid on mars in significant amounts.

Hence the importance of proof of the historical presence of liquid water.

MrL_JaKiri · 2 Mar 2004, 20:23

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Originally Posted by pablissimo

He's got a point, Jim

Unless he's Jim, I'm afraid not.

Intrepid00 · 2 Mar 2004, 20:40

I'd say a unfrozen water table below the martian soil is VERY diffrent from frozen polor caps.

AllFather|away · 2 Mar 2004, 20:42

So your scenario is this:

A giant flying iceberg hit mars at high velocity and spread all over the planet without loosing its frozen state while entering the atmosphere.

Presission iceberg parking is the reason they could fill entire "vallys" with ice..

GG..

Structural Integrity · 2 Mar 2004, 20:44

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Originally Posted by AllFather|away

So your scenario is this:

A giant flying iceberg hit mars at high velocity and spread all over the planet without loosing its frozen state while entering the atmosphere.

Presission iceberg parking is the reason they could fill entire "vallys" with ice..

GG..

Well, they DID manage to hit the titanic with an iceberg

Phang · 2 Mar 2004, 20:46

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Originally Posted by AllFather|away

So your scenario is this:

A giant flying iceberg hit mars at high velocity and spread all over the planet without loosing its frozen state while entering the atmosphere.

Presission iceberg parking is the reason they could fill entire "vallys" with ice..

GG..

comet ggnextmap

Intrepid00 · 2 Mar 2004, 20:49

Big enough comet, Mar's thin atmoshere. I'd say its possiable. Though, I have no ****ing clue what your going on about.

Deathjam|wee · 2 Mar 2004, 21:00

maybe the ice roid/comet was incased in cheese so when it the mars atmosphere the cheese melted but the ice didn't, then the melted cheese hit the ground and bounced back out into space and into the orbit of earth where it cooled and became hard cheese to form the moon

Structural Integrity · 2 Mar 2004, 21:05

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Originally Posted by Deathjam|wee

maybe the ice roid/comet was incased in cheese so when it the mars atmosphere the cheese melted but the ice didn't, then the melted cheese hit the ground and bounced back out into space and into the orbit of earth where it cooled and became hard cheese to form the moon

Perhaps not of course...

BTW, you calling that thingy a "roid" is quite scary.

Qdeathstar · 2 Mar 2004, 21:07

they are pretty sure that they have found liquid water on the survace of mars a brine-mixture to be exact. A lot of salt so it wont freeze. CNBC said that liquid water has been found that could support life.. but the thing i read on nasaa said it was a brine...with no evidence of life.. yet.

Qdeathstar · 2 Mar 2004, 21:09

pps, Things intering the martian atmosphere arent super heated.. it isnt that dense... Its warm.. but ice could make it down before it all mealted.

Apothos · 2 Mar 2004, 21:12

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Originally Posted by AllFather|away

I thought water on mars was old news,

It is old news - this is just NASA making sure everyone knows they want the credit for finding out "definitively".

Intrepid00 · 2 Mar 2004, 21:25

Water on Mars is not old news as a possiablity, its just hasn't (and still hasn't) been proven to be true or false.

MrL_JaKiri · 2 Mar 2004, 21:26

Hey, why not read the second post in the thread!

Qdeathstar · 2 Mar 2004, 21:35

water on mars (in liquid from) has been proven to exists, and its pretty much proven that brine ( salt/liquid solution) exists on mars now. they said that mars might be able currently to support life.

Intrepid00 · 2 Mar 2004, 21:45

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Hey, why not read the second post in the thread!

So they found water for sure now, (BTW using a radio telescope to see if you can detect hydrogen doesn't prove Mars had water) that is awesome.

MrL_JaKiri · 2 Mar 2004, 21:53

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Originally Posted by Intrepid00

if you can detect hydrogen doesn't prove Mars had water

It's pretty firm evidence though, given that water is an exceptionally simple and common compound.

Intrepid00 · 2 Mar 2004, 23:31

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

It's pretty firm evidence though, given that water is an exceptionally simple and common compound.

So is HCl

MrL_JaKiri · 2 Mar 2004, 23:37

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Originally Posted by Intrepid00

So is HCl

So's NH3.

We could go on like this all day you know

Marilyn Manson · 2 Mar 2004, 23:38

Are there any brambles on Mars? If not, I'm not interested.

pablissimo · 2 Mar 2004, 23:47

Let's all make nettle soup and rub our scrotums with thorns because it's what gets me off

Sorry, not sure where I was going with that.

MrL_JaKiri · 2 Mar 2004, 23:48

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Let's all make nettle soup and rub our scrotums with thorns because it's what gets me off

Sorry, not sure where I was going with that.

To MM's bedroom. AAAAAAAAHLLL RIGHT

Marilyn Manson · 2 Mar 2004, 23:50

Strawberries are one fruit that should not come into contact with lower body parts. Not welcome at all.

pablissimo · 2 Mar 2004, 23:52

I can imagine lemon-juice down the japs might cause discomfort, but what could possibly go wrong with a strawberry in round your nethers?

Seeds? YOU DISGUST ME.

Marilyn Manson · 2 Mar 2004, 23:55

The strawberry smears look awful, and it will smell heavily pungent when mixed with other 'substances.'

Intrepid00 · 2 Mar 2004, 23:57

Is there hydrogen in strawberries?

Qdeathstar · 2 Mar 2004, 23:58

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4202901/

Qdeathstar · 2 Mar 2004, 23:58

as the final word.

Marilyn Manson · 3 Mar 2004, 00:00

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Originally Posted by Intrepid00

Is there hydrogen in strawberries?

Far, far too much.

pablissimo · 3 Mar 2004, 00:02

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Originally Posted by Qdeathstar

as the final word.

I assume there's some really great logic behind your posting two, three, four consecutive messages as you seem to do with some degree of regularity whereby a simple carriage return would suffice?

And MM, what, like, does it do a 'Bailey's and Lime' kind of scenario?

MrL_JaKiri · 3 Mar 2004, 00:05

I'm all for a bit of G&T; there's lime involved there.

Marilyn Manson · 3 Mar 2004, 00:05

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Originally Posted by pablissimo

And MM, what, like, does it do a 'Bailey's and Lime' kind of scenario?

I have no idea.

pablissimo · 3 Mar 2004, 00:05

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

I'm all for a bit of G&T; there's lime involved there.

I meant 'curdling' =(

Marilyn Manson · 3 Mar 2004, 00:07

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Originally Posted by pablissimo

I meant 'curdling' =(

It would be an awful mess. Awful.

MrL_JaKiri · 3 Mar 2004, 00:08

This thread has inspired me to have a G&T.

pablissimo · 3 Mar 2004, 00:09

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

This thread has inspired me to have a G&T.

CURDLED SEMEN CURDLED SEMEN CURDLED SEMEN

And Paul Daniels.

Marilyn Manson · 3 Mar 2004, 00:10

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

This thread has inspired me to have a G&T.

Don't try and blame us for you alcohol addiction. George Best tried that one and we broke his face.

MrL_JaKiri · 3 Mar 2004, 00:11

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Originally Posted by pablissimo

CURDLED SEMEN CURDLED SEMEN CURDLED SEMEN

And Paul Daniels.

It looks like a clear, colourless liquid to me. With 2 ice cubes.

MrL_JaKiri · 3 Mar 2004, 00:12

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

Don't try and blame us for you alcohol addiction. George Best tried that one and we broke his face.

There was a minicrisis when I COULDN'T FIND THE TONIC WATER.

Phang · 3 Mar 2004, 00:16

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

It looks like a clear, colourless liquid to me. With 2 ice cubes.

paul daniels?

MrL_JaKiri · 3 Mar 2004, 00:17

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Originally Posted by Phang

paul daniels?

My G&T. But if Paul Daniels contains quinine, who am I to argue?

Marilyn Manson · 3 Mar 2004, 00:19

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Originally Posted by Phang

paul daniels?

Paul Daniels is a clear, colourless twat.

pablissimo · 3 Mar 2004, 00:23

Has someone been covertly Debbie McGee my posts? Own up!

Qdeathstar · 3 Mar 2004, 00:24

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assume there's some really great logic behind your posting two, three, four consecutive messages as you seem to do with some degree of regularity whereby a simple carriage return would suffice?

atleast im on topic :-/

Additionally, i think about things as a post them, so when i new thought comes up. i post it. Being that its easier to just add another post... i do that. post forums have an auto-edit feature...Perhaps PA should look into that.