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Unread 26 Feb 2005, 00:15   #51
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
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The verb aimer means "to love"

I forgot how "to like " is translated.
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J'aime means I like.
J'adore means I love.

in spanish you'd say te chiero instead of te amo
despite it meaning I want you rather than I love you
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
ok ok, i was wrong, stop poking my face into it

doest adorer mean "to adore"
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
Arabic spoken of a high standard is good.

Arabic spoken on the streets is not too great... especially the ones from Morocco, Algeria etc.
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
We've had accent threads before so I'll keep it to languages:

1. German
2. Spanish
3. Dutch
4. Polish
5. Russian

Ones I quite like are French and Greek.
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Unread 26 Feb 2005, 02:51   #56
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
Considering nobody here really knows what on earth they're talking about, I had to laugh.
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
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1. VHDL
2. shell script
3. C
4. COBOL
5. XML
I agree with Banned on this one, C is lovely, C++ is not.... infact generally I find any OO language ugly. I'd also add Java to the list and remove XML because I find XML quite logical.
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I agree with Banned on this one, C is lovely, C++ is not.... infact generally I find any OO language ugly. I'd also add Java to the list and remove XML because I find XML quite logical.
Something being logical doesn't prevent it from being ugly.
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
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Something being logical doesn't prevent it from being ugly.
Depends on your point of view, to me logic is a beautiful thing
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
Offical liker of the German language.
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
I like German. I find it a lot more emotive than English (probably not the accents, but the language itself).

Probably some Eastern European ones make my list. Croatian particularly, though I believe Magyar (Hungarian) is pretty bad as well. Then Hindi, Korean, and finally, Kiwi.
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
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i though aime was like, or is everything you learn in schools these days utter bullshit?

Actually, you're wrong.

Aimer is To Like

Adore is to love

But in the context of "I love you", you use the term "Je t'aime". It's just a weird thing the french have - I've never bothered to find out why it's that. I think it might be something to do with "adore" only being used for physical objects or places, but not people.
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
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in spanish you'd say te chiero instead of te amo
My Spanish is a bit rusty, but I thought "I want you" would be translated as "Te Quiero" ?
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My Spanish is a bit rusty, but I thought "I want you" would be translated as "Te Quiero" ?
yes, i just never learnt spanish so i spelt it phonetically (in my head). quiero chiero whatever.
Te quiero is used as I love you but in a kind of way that you'd say it to a girl you like in a club.
Te amo is the one you'd say to your wife etc...
As far as my ex-girlfriend told me anyway
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
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the verb 'aimer' is 'to love'

je t'aime = i love you
j'aime le chocolat = i love chocolat

'to like' = 'plaire'

so you would say 'le chocolat me plait' for 'i like chocolat', which is rather long and cumbersome. In practice people dont use 'i like', but 'i love', which means the meaning of the word love loses some meaning (lol).
'adorer' = 'to adore'

je t'adore = i adore you

any more questions?

[edit for spanish]
te quiero = i want you
te amo = i love you

whether people use one or the other it does not matter, as it obviously differs on the region and culture. Go to Peru and you shall see that the usage of the words differ, but the meaning, if tracked down to their roots, is the same.

yes that was the verb i was looking for PLAIR

maybe i wasnt wrong after all.
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the verb 'aimer' is 'to love'

je t'aime = i love you
j'aime le chocolat = i love chocolat

'to like' = 'plaire'

so you would say 'le chocolat me plait' for 'i like chocolat', which is rather long and cumbersome. In practice people dont use 'i like', but 'i love', which means the meaning of the word love loses some meaning (lol).
'adorer' = 'to adore'

je t'adore = i adore you
Ok having just spoken to my fluent French speaking housemate.
aimer is to like. But can be used for love depending on what other words you put in the sentence.
plaire is to please: 'le chocolat me plait' means 'chocolate pleases me.'
adorer is used in the kind of love for your pet for example.
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the verb 'aimer' is 'to love'
I think this is where our language differences are overlapping. I was always taught that aimer was "to like" in school. Your native language isn't English though, so I guess somewhere along the line the word for like isn't the same in your language as English and French.

EG: Aimerais is "I would like", not "I would love".



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yes, i just never learnt spanish so i spelt it phonetically (in my head). quiero chiero whatever.
Te quiero is used as I love you but in a kind of way that you'd say it to a girl you like in a club.
Te amo is the one you'd say to your wife etc...
As far as my ex-girlfriend told me anyway
Ahh right. Yeah, that's what I thought too.
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you are using the verb to express 'like' or dislike for a thing, an action, and not a person
Ahhhh. I see now. So you can use "aime" to say like, if you're talking about an object or place - as long as it's not a person? That's where plaire is used (as in "Oh I like her, she's great").

Is that right?

My French isn't that advanced, I guess we were taught to use aimer as a blanket term for "to like" so as not to confuse us.
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i don't like all those south european languages.
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first sms my ex-gf sent me the day after she met me was "tu sais que tu me plaits trop?"

= "are you aware you please me a lot" (literally)
= "are you aware i like you a lot" (more like this)
I was taught "tu sais" means "you know", not "you are aware"...

I think it's just the formation of the language actually here. There's never an exact translation. Say I translated a phrase in English to French, then from French to Spanish, then from Spanish to German, then from German back to English, it wouldn't be the same phrase we started with.
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I was taught "tu sais" means "you know", not "you are aware"...

I think it's just the formation of the language actually here. There's never an exact translation. Say I translated a phrase in English to French, then from French to Spanish, then from Spanish to German, then from German back to English, it wouldn't be the same phrase we started with.
hence the problem with the bible.
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does that include portuguese and spanish?

please note that brazilian is portuguese with a different accent.
yes, and french and italian. im not sure if that makes them ugly, i just don't like their whole style.
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
1) German
2) arabic
3) any of the scandanavian languages
4) spanish
5) because overweight dwarfs getting emotional are funny and even though it isn't a language as such, scottish english.
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
Scots is actually a language *shurg*
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
ebonics

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1. German
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
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Actually, you're wrong.

Aimer is To Like

Adore is to love

But in the context of "I love you", you use the term "Je t'aime". It's just a weird thing the french have - I've never bothered to find out why it's that. I think it might be something to do with "adore" only being used for physical objects or places, but not people.

so everything you learn is bullshit then....

like: j'aime le chat is i like cats... or so i thought.... apparently its now i love cats
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
1. German
2. Prolog
3. Welsh (gaelic [sp?])
4. French
5. American 'English'
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so everything you learn is bullshit then....

like: j'aime le chat is i like cats... or so i thought.... apparently its now i love cats
you didn't read it properly did you.
unless you think cats are people.
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Re: Top 5 most ugly languages
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you didn't read it properly did you.
unless you think cats are people.
no

*sniff*

ill crawl back to my hole now

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