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Unread 9 Dec 2004, 00:37   #1
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The Strong Leader you voted for.

So first he is against the law which unites the intelligence agencies, and now he is for.

Oh yes!
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Re: The Strong Leader you voted for.

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So first he is against the law which unites the intelligence agencies, and now he is for.

Oh yes!
Flip-flop?
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Re: The Strong Leader you voted for.

This is one of those threads where I wouldn't mind a BBC News or The Times link
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Re: The Strong Leader you voted for.

Congres did it, but Bush was first against, then suddenly 'pro' due to political pressure
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Re: The Strong Leader you voted for.

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So first he is against the law which unites the intelligence agencies, and now he is for.

Oh yes!
He was probably told by his advisors that it would not be a wise political move to stop the new security bill from passing...
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So first he is against the law which unites the intelligence agencies, and now he is for.
I thought he was only (initially) against giving the new Intelligence Director budget authority over the various intelligence agencies?

It's been the Republicans in the House who've had the most objections, mostly over the questions of military intelligence and immigration reform.


Personally, I think reorganization as a solution to bureaucratic problems is just more of the same. :/
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Re: The Strong Leader you voted for.

President Bush wasnt against the Intellegence Reform, he was opposed to the Budgeting authority it gave.

He has most recently SPOKE AGAINST HIS PARTY, to get the bill passed, so STFU ;-)

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Re: The Strong Leader you voted for.

dear oh dear, flip flopping over which party he wants to belong to. terrible stuff.

seriously tho, i'd assumed that the reorganisation was supposed to improve communications rather than cut beurocracy?

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seriously tho, i'd assumed that the reorganisation was supposed to improve communications rather than cut beurocracy?
Yes of course; but can you get one without the other? Specifically, is adding another level to the intelligence bureaucracy more likely to improve or to degrade communications?
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Re: The Strong Leader you voted for.

that's assuming they don't have out a few levels lower down, but it's a subject i know very little about

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Re: The Strong Leader you voted for.

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President Bush wasnt against the Intellegence Reform, he was opposed to the Budgeting authority it gave.

He has most recently SPOKE AGAINST HIS PARTY, to get the bill passed, so STFU ;-)

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