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Androme · 12 Nov 2004, 23:52

I've searched online but can't really win. I know the basic moves etc. and do the typical 2 pawns 2 rooks opening but always end up losing - I need help

Thanks

Burbank · 13 Nov 2004, 00:17

i can, i play chess with my dad every night. what do you want a hand with

Burbank · 13 Nov 2004, 00:25

why dont you try moving the pawn in front of the king, this allows the queen and bishop access to the board

my usual opener

Dace · 13 Nov 2004, 00:27

you move the two centre pawns forward then the two knights (what i usually do)

Ste · 13 Nov 2004, 01:05

Study some classic openings (past the first few moves)
think more than one move ahead. consider how your opponent will move.
Always be prepared to sacrifice pieces. It doesn't matter if they are taken. getting both queens off the board is sometimes an advantage. Pawns are there to be taken.
remember the basic points system: pawn 1, bishop/knight 3, rook 5, queen 10.
Try and give your king a way out if possible - castling gets it out of the open but move the rooks pawn to give it an escape route if necessary.
Lure your opponent into traps.
Concentrate on every move - if your opponent has moved somewhere unexpectantly - ask yourself why. Make sure every move you make doesn't have an unforeseen consequence.

And of course - practice.

Psi_K · 13 Nov 2004, 01:14

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Originally Posted by Ste

queen 10.

Isn't the Queen worth 9?
It's been a while, I used to be really good a chess (still am, just don't really compeat)

Marilyn Manson · 13 Nov 2004, 01:18

I like prawns. And knights as well, come to that. And queens.

SilverSmoke · 13 Nov 2004, 01:20

I believe I can play chess pretty well, I also master some basic openings like Ruiz-Lopez and Sicilian and stuff.

Still I lose a lot because I make really funny stupid mistakes during a good game.

SilverSmoke · 13 Nov 2004, 01:38

Good hint

'buy' Chessmaster 9000 or 10k, they have a really great analyzing system, telling you exactly what you did wrong in your games and what you could have done if you where more thoughtful. Really really good stuff, with lots of basic information, openings etc.

SilverSmoke · 13 Nov 2004, 01:54

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Originally Posted by Ste

remember the basic points system: pawn 1, bishop/knight 3, rook 5, queen 10.

Sometimes giving away a bishop (for example) without exchange of any other piece from the oponent can give you a huge positional advantage. There are several little strategies called gambits in which you give away pawns to create a rather big positional advantage.

Never underestimate boardposition.

Phalon · 13 Nov 2004, 01:56

Play 9000 sometimes, its very good for improving rapidly.

No matter how great you are some of the AI players will destroy you.

EDIT: Or if you're like me, MOST of the AI players will destroy you.

Androme · 13 Nov 2004, 03:13

thanks Ste but I pretty much know all that - I was taught as a kid by my grand-dad since he was once a Polish national champion etc. and he always said attack from the center, don't check unnecessarily, never leave the pawns line unstructured, never waste moves, get more organised early on etc.

SilverSmoke - perhaps I'll invest in that - thanks

+ wtf are Gambits?! I looked up Google and got a whole host of diagrams and move sets but don't really understand them

Thanks all

SilverSmoke · 13 Nov 2004, 04:12

I'll give you an example of a gambit, I think it's called the King's Gambit:

You move your King's Pawn 2 steps forward, as white. Black oftenly does the opposite. After you move the pawn in front of your Kings bishop 2 steps upfront. Now black can freely strike your pawn with his king's pawn. Which give him a lead of 1 piece without losing anything. Except for the fact that his king is now quite vurnerable. That's a gambit. Offering a pawn to get a positionary advantage.

SilverSmoke · 13 Nov 2004, 04:19

and btw, what the hell do you mean with a '2 pawn, two rook opening' ?

You use your rooks, in your opening?

a rather useful site to learn some basic openings/strategies etc

pyirt · 13 Nov 2004, 10:35

Good pawn structure, get your knights out early; dominate the the middle ground; castle early! Thats what I say...

pyirt · 13 Nov 2004, 10:38

Five minute chess is good to. Insane!

Phalon · 13 Nov 2004, 12:02

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Originally Posted by SilverSmoke

and btw, what the hell do you mean with a '2 pawn, two rook opening' ?

You use your rooks, in your opening?

I think he meant '2 pawns 2 knights opening' as thats what most people do once they've picked up the basics.

Phalon · 13 Nov 2004, 12:04

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Originally Posted by pyirt

Five minute chess is good to. Insane!

Speed chess is crazy but infinately more fun as it doesn't inolve several hours/days to finish a game.

Burbank · 13 Nov 2004, 12:09

ever tried playing suicide chess, where the object is to force your own king into check before the others, and you HAVE to take a peice if you can

Phalon · 13 Nov 2004, 12:13

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Originally Posted by Burbank

ever tried playing suicide chess, where the object is to force your own king into check before the others, and you HAVE to take a peice if you can

Yea, used to play that in college during one of our extremely pointless 5 minute breaks. There's a whole lot of tactics involved which surprises many people.

Deepflow · 13 Nov 2004, 14:47

Play go

SilverSmoke · 13 Nov 2004, 15:24

no

play chess

Burbank · 13 Nov 2004, 15:44

yeah, its the hardest type of chess i had ever played

Androme · 13 Nov 2004, 15:57

I meant 2 Knights - sorry my bad on the rooks - hehe

I've played Speed Chess and Suicide Chess and I dislike both

Qdeathstar · 13 Nov 2004, 16:26

i can play chess, and i bet i could beat ANYONE here. 5 bucks USD.

hyfe · 13 Nov 2004, 16:30

Got a rating Qdeathstar?

Qdeathstar · 13 Nov 2004, 16:32

definatley

SilverSmoke · 13 Nov 2004, 16:36

I feel challenged, although I don't have the time for now to play. Tonight I'll be pimping the clubs and bars.

KoeN · 13 Nov 2004, 17:34

anyone here who wants to play against me on yahoo?

SilverSmoke · 13 Nov 2004, 17:38

Koen

I will, a quickie then as i am in a hurry and busy.

Tell me which room you are.

KoeN · 13 Nov 2004, 17:39

naah not now, bit later.
cooking food atm, just came back from coaching the girls

SilverSmoke · 13 Nov 2004, 17:40

Oh well, another time then as I'll be getting drunk in some hours.

Androme · 13 Nov 2004, 18:14

If anyone wants to play me on Jiippii let me know - for some Yahoo just doesn't want to load the chess for my whatever browser I use

Marilyn Manson · 13 Nov 2004, 18:39

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Originally Posted by SilverSmoke

I will, a quickie then as i am in a hurry and busy.

Tell me which room you are.

I don't know how to comment on this.

SilverSmoke · 13 Nov 2004, 18:39

I just knew it.

JonnyBGood · 14 Nov 2004, 01:22

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Originally Posted by SilverSmoke

I feel challenged

QDS is one step ahead of you here as he actually is challenged

Qdeathstar · 14 Nov 2004, 02:39

why dont you let me beat the crap out of you (in chess) JonnyBGood?

Summanus · 14 Nov 2004, 02:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qdeathstar

why dont you let me beat the crap out of you (in chess) JonnyBGood?

Actually saying that you "will beat the crap out of someone in chess" shows that you will automatically fail, as your mindset is not the mindset of a good player.

It's the mindset of a little brat who knocks over the board when they lose

Qdeathstar · 14 Nov 2004, 02:44

no no no, i know, i just wanted to play him is all, relax, expert of chess. GAWD.

Qdeathstar · 14 Nov 2004, 05:51

well, then i see Jonny is too afraid.

Muhahahhhaha..

QD WINS!

Summanus · 14 Nov 2004, 09:35

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Originally Posted by Qdeathstar

well, then i see Jonny is too afraid.

Muhahahhhaha..

QD WINS!

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