[Discuss] Fleet Scan

[Appocomaster]

from here
Change the Fleet Analysis scan so that you can see the missions for all fleets on planets when they aren't attacking you.
Would be useful especially in conjunction with fake attack / defence (if it gets implemented)

[Kal]

hmm so when somoene is attacking/defending u - u can see what all of their fleets are doing?

[Appocomaster]

You just see like
1 Attack

2 Return

3 Base
(you don't see fleet names)

[Guran]

Bring back military Scans.

[ChubbyChecker]

The way fleet scans work at the moment is fine, giving away any further information is bad.

I liked Military Scans, the new system of scans is slightly better though.

[themast]

its exactly like military scans

[Appocomaster]

No, as you'd only see the missions, not the eta co-ords or ships. It'd be used for checking fake attack (/defence)

[Ultimate Newbie]

Would that replace the existing Fleet Scan, or augment?

[Ultimate Newbie]

hmm, having read further on, how are you meant to tell what ships are inbound to you then (the point of the fleet scan)?

Without the fleetscan as it is now, Terrans in particular (with their DE/BA combo) but also Ziks will have a field day at faking fleets to look like other classes.

I am playing for the first time as a Terran in the Capture the Flag game (i changed from Xan). i pulled three fakes (900 BA, 900 DE and 900 Pho) and got all the wrong def to each fleet from the same gal. I cleaned up (got like 1500 roids for 100 battleships and 2 destroyers). As a DC, i fret when thinking of all the Terran calls if the Fleet Scan is altered to way that you mention.

[Appocomaster]

It'll act normally on planets who are attacking you. This is just for fleets / planets not attacking you - you can see what their fleets are doing. To be honest, it'd be most used if fake defence comes in, I guess

[Ultimate Newbie]

wouldnt it make fake defence (and also attack) completely and utterly useless? DC's could fleet scan hostile fleets to determine whether they were fake or not and thus immediately reject them if they are, and similarly BC's or scanners would be able to scan defending fleets for fakiness.

It would completely defeat the purpose of fake fleets.

If fake fleets didnt display (ie, it would show as attack or defend), then you havent really gained anything. except perhaps made more people vulnerable to fleetcatching as a third party could see what your fleets were doing.

[Wandows]

i think the point would be:

anyone can make fleet scans, but if its not on himself it only shows the eta of the fleet (and maybe the mission). But if the scan is made by the person under attack, it would also display fleet names for the fleets that are hitting him?

Then you can still do fake attacks (much like it is now using unit scans), but it would allow a tad less gambling of what could have been sent.

[Appocomaster]

Originally Posted by Ultimate Newbie

wouldnt it make fake defence (and also attack) completely and utterly useless? DC's could fleet scan hostile fleets to determine whether they were fake or not and thus immediately reject them if they are, and similarly BC's or scanners would be able to scan defending fleets for fakiness.

It would completely defeat the purpose of fake fleets.

If fake fleets didnt display (ie, it would show as attack or defend), then you havent really gained anything. except perhaps made more people vulnerable to fleetcatching as a third party could see what your fleets were doing.

But people would know that they could be checked for fake fleets, and would send 2-3 fleets. If it only showed the mission and not the name, then you'd know that *one* of them is fake.
same with defence. If you're hitting a galaxy, and you fleet scan someone and find out that 1 in 3 of their fleets are fake, you might be more willing to risk.