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Unread 12 Aug 2014, 10:27   #1
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Bug: Ignore score limits for galaxy fund donations

Since this round(?), your value goes up immediately when you receive a donation. However, when you put the resources back into the galfund, your value does not go down until the next tick. Additionally, when you receive further donations, your value keeps going up and up.

You can use this to inflate the value of the small planets in your galaxy, raising the galaxy average score, putting the bigger planets into donation range.

Fix:
1) Never add/subtract from value or score. Always recalculate from scratch, using more fundamental values.
2) Recalculate value and score when donating in and out.
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Unread 12 Aug 2014, 20:12   #2
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Re: Bug: Ignore score limits for galaxy fund donations

You could do this before this round as well by simply waiting a tick. Certainly not the intended use of the fund.

Might as well reduce its maximum capacity while you're at it, to prevent people from hiding 500k value while not hurting the genuine donations to smaller planets.
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Unread 12 Aug 2014, 20:21   #3
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Re: Bug: Ignore score limits for galaxy fund donations

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You could do this before this round as well by simply waiting a tick.
But you used to be able to do it only once. Once the 50m is out, it's out. Right now, you can do it for every member in your galaxy: donate out, get value, donate back in, next planet.

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Might as well reduce its maximum capacity while you're at it, to prevent people from hiding 500k value while not hurting the genuine donations to smaller planets.
I see no reason for reducing its capacity. 500k is not that much. Anyway, that's not what this thread is about.
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Re: Bug: Ignore score limits for galaxy fund donations

Ah I see, that does seem poorly thought out...
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Unread 24 Aug 2014, 22:35   #5
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Re: Bug: Ignore score limits for galaxy fund donations

ahh good spot. No one that I know of has seen this before.

It was implemented like this to stop those who were only just under the limit (and so therefore not eligible for donations which would take them over the limit) to just get 10 or 20 little donations.

I guess the natural reversal of this is to drop your value in real time when you donate to the galaxy fund. This could be slightly abused (if you keep a lot of resources you could donate at the beginning of tick and get them donated back to you at the end of the tick, or something) but generally I'm not sure if there's a major side effect to this.
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Re: Bug: Ignore score limits for galaxy fund donations

I think that a move towards more realtime interaction would be good for the game. The majority of changes take effect at the tick, but cov ops, scanning, (self-)exiling, napping, joining/leaving alliances can, and in some casest must, be done between ticks. For some of these, there are some realtime effects (naps show up on the public page, bankhacking gives resources, etc)

Without too much work, many other things could also be done in realtime, such as research, constructions, governments, mining, initiating, and probably others.

Those are changes that go beyond a simple bug fix though.
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Re: Bug: Ignore score limits for galaxy fund donations

Just to note, this is fixed for R59 (donations to the galaxy/alliance fund drop your value + score to match your score increasing when you get donated resources from the gal fund).
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