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World of Warcraft

This will probably be my last post on GD for quite a while because it rocks.
Or I must have nothing to do at work.
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indeed.

plus pvp patch tomorrow \o/
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Re: World of Warcraft

Which server are you on?
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Re: World of Warcraft

Al'Akir here... just because lots of Dutch people are on that one.
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Re: World of Warcraft

That PvP patch is going to turn the servers into a blistering nightmare straight out of hell.

Also Shadow Moon.
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Why is it so good?
Not just because he has a suit, but because he knows about business and stuff and he has a tie.
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Which server are you on?
about 5, though i've cleaned up some chars lately.

shattered hand has my l37 human pally

silver moon has my l22 dwarven priest.

i have chars on argent dawn and thunderhorn too, but i've not played any of those lately.
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Re: World of Warcraft

just got it on wednesday
have a character on sylvanus (something like that anyway )

putting a character on argent dawn sometime soon though as some of my RL mates have a guild on there
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just got it on wednesday
have a character on sylvanus (something like that anyway )

putting a character on argent dawn sometime soon though as some of my RL mates have a guild on there
Come onto Shadow Moon with me and Leshy.
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its very tempting, although you will be levels and levels ahead of me are either/both of you in a guild or something?
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i've got a l12 char on argent dawn

I -could- start a new one but i've got too many already
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Al'Akir here... just because lots of Dutch people are on that one.
I have a lvl 9 Orc Rouge alt there, it's called Hicks, I don't play him enough though.

My main is a level 60 Paladin on Bladefist also called Hicks.

I doubt I'll be on again until the mass of raids is over with and everyone is playing normally.
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Re: World of Warcraft

PvP has been a bit hit and miss on the yank servers.

Servers are now lagging like an absolute bastard with every man and his dog farming honour for the epics that 99.99% of us are never going to get.

Some of my guildies are up to 1500+ kills already, in two days or so since patch, personally I'm at 200 and quite happy. Feedback from those not at 60 yet is, you're ****ed.
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PvP has been a bit hit and miss on the yank servers.

Servers are now lagging like an absolute bastard with every man and his dog farming honour for the epics that 99.99% of us are never going to get.

Some of my guildies are up to 1500+ kills already, in two days or so since patch, personally I'm at 200 and quite happy. Feedback from those not at 60 yet is, you're ****ed.
You do realise that... kills don't equal honour points? Especially kills of lower levels?

It should sort itself out in a few days. Fortunately I'm away at the weekend and so will miss the initial european shitstorm.
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why isn't this thread on the RPG forum?

it must qualify.

you're talking about 'orks' and crap like that

you've got your own shit secret language

and you're not making any sense.
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You do realise that... kills don't equal honour points? Especially kills of lower levels?

It should sort itself out in a few days. Fortunately I'm away at the weekend and so will miss the initial european shitstorm.
Yes, we know how the system works. Lower level kills are not counted, it only counts Honour Kills, so if they're not in the 48-60 range, it doesnt get counted as a kill. The top player on the server is a rogue who has solo'd like a bastard, has 7k+ cont at the moment, most of our top guys are in the 5-6k range.

We have a kill of Cairn Bloodhoof last night which hasnt been translated into honour yet, so that should add a shitload to our scores. All in all, I'm not a huge fan of the PvP farming, I do it because its something to do, but I dont find it all that enjoyable. I'll be happy to get the 2nd or 3rd rank so I get the anti-fear, caster shanking trinket.
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World of Warcraft isn't a "role playing" game. The only ones I can really think of, in the strictest interpretation, are Planescape: Torment and Knights of the Old Republic 2.
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Re: The PvP system, I don't think it will last in its current incarnation. The actual playing of the game will get screwed up for far too many people if the constant zerging stays like this.
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World of Warcraft isn't a "role playing" game. The only ones I can really think of, in the strictest interpretation, are Planescape: Torment and Knights of the Old Republic 2.

the normal people get to define what role playing is.

we are not beholden to your internal squabbles such as:

"so and so is not a 'real' role player"

we do not care.

you are each as bad as the others in our eyes.
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I'd love to watch a role player civil war

we could televise it. the whole nation could sit behind tv sets screaming "why don't they get it? they have to physically hit the ****er typing it out doesn't work"

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the normal people get to define what role playing is.

we are not beholden to your internal squabbles such as:

"so and so is not a 'real' role player"

we do not care.

you are each as bad as the others in our eyes.
If WoW is an RPG, then, following the only comparable interpretation of the terms, so is any game with an avatar. Except DoW. Boom boom.

I don't care about "real" RPG's, it's just that the only games I can think of where you choose a role and play it are Torment and KOTOR2.
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don't try to suck me into your sick little roleplayer factions.
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If there was even a teeny weeny bit of skill involved, I might have been convinced to ignore the awful graphics and boring gameplay and play. There isn't, so I won't.
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I might have been convinced to ignore the awful graphics
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If there was even a teeny weeny bit of skill involved, I might have been convinced to ignore the awful graphics and boring gameplay and play. There isn't, so I won't.
i liked planetside. but honest to god it loses to WoW by a lot in all of these.
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Skill? No. Gamplay? No. Graphics? Very possibly, because you need all settings at their lowest to get decent FPS.
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ITT Boogster hasn't actually played WoW. What kind of PC do you have that can't get a decent FPS in WoW ? While the graphics are pretty they're hardly the most demanding out there, if you can't get a decent FPS with WoW then there isn't much you're going to be playing.
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I agree on one point with Boogster which is about the skills. There is no such thing as real, raw skill requirement to do well in a mmorpg. Ofcourse, with some better understanding of the mechanism of your character you will be doing a bit better but talking about pure skills, they're not involved or at least unnescecary in such games.
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and so

the nerd war begins

all the rest of the world can ony wait, quietly, patiently, hoping, praying praying to god

that there are no survivors.
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Skill? No. Gamplay? No. Graphics? Very possibly, because you need all settings at their lowest to get decent FPS.
Runs fine on my computer, and I made this thing a year ago for £300.

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I agree on one point with Boogster which is about the skills. There is no such thing as real, raw skill requirement to do well in a mmorpg. Ofcourse, with some better understanding of the mechanism of your character you will be doing a bit better but talking about pure skills, they're not involved or at least unnescecary in such games.
It depends what you mean by "skill". Of course it's not a twitch based game like UT2K4, but you still have to makle decisions in battle, and especially in PvP.

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If there was even a teeny weeny bit of skill involved, I might have been convinced to ignore the awful graphics and boring gameplay and play. There isn't, so I won't.
If you think the gameplay is boring, then this genre really isn't for you. WoW is by far the most varied and interesting MMORPG I've come across. Have you played Morrowind? That's the thing that most springs to mind as a similar game.

Re: The graphics, yeah they don't have a high polygon count. But, like Warcraft III (you know, the game this looks most similar to) it's got an excellent design philosophy and is, at the very least, neat and well put together. Picture of actual gameplay! (I can't remember what settings they are, but they get an average of 60 fps, except when I'm taking photos)
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WoW runs fine for me too with my p3 800, geforce 4 64mb and 892mb ram
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Yeah, certainly, just put off some details, it still will look great.
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You are pushing the minimum spec, mind.
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Ieft DOAC to go to WoW

Went back to DAOC post haste, WoW just lacks depth
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it also runs perfectly fine on my duron 950 with 256 RAM and a radeon 9200SE 128Mb card yes some of the options are turned down, but it still looks very pretty to me
(also, and possibly quite sadly, i was really really pleased when i hit level 10 last night )
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I came to lvl15 yesterday. Levelling is slowing down quite fast ATM and I'm not sure what to do to boost my level. Questing takes a long time to complete and killing monsters doesn't give a lot of XP (the ones that I can actually take on). I've been running along Westfall for a while now and am running out of decent quests in that area, and I've found Loch Modan but I don't really know my way in that area. Luckilly I found out about thottbot to help me find quests.

Sadly my Radeon X800 Pro card crashes constantly (yes, the card itself) which isn't really adding to the experience. VPU-recover kicks in after every fart. I ordered a new PSU hoping that fixes the prob.

BTW, teamspeak is really cool with WoW. I was invited into a Dutch guild with two old schoolmates and some other high-level people, it's funny to hear them speak the game's abbreviations out loud.
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BTW, teamspeak is really cool with WoW. I was invited into a Dutch guild with two old schoolmates and some other high-level people, it's funny to hear them speak the game's abbreviations out loud.
EL EF GEE ER EF CEE PEE EL ZET!

Also, I'm level 53 now.
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To be honest, Anarchy Online, still impresses me the most out of all mmorpg's I've played purily looking at the game mechanics, diversity, amount of items ingame, diversity in character builds etc.
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I played the European beta and found it very boring.

I played Shadowbane last year for a few months, that's a cool MMORPG with some good PvP content.
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Sorry, I was a little abstruse. I meant that on Planetside the graphics are poor, because you need all settings down low. I stand by my original statement though:

RPGs, as a genre, require no skill - just hard graft (ie. time spent online), or lots of mates.
As a result, RPGs suffer from stale gameplay.
And WoW's graphics are below the standards set by recent games.
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RPGs, as a genre, require no skill - just hard graft (ie. time spent online), or lots of mates.
As a result, RPGs suffer from stale gameplay.
A bit like another game we all used to play.
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can someone give me one of those trial thingies?

if you are kind, let me know and i'll pm my email or whatever i need tod o
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I'd have given you mine if I hadn't accidentally used it instead of my real retail key.
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