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6 Nov 2007, 17:29
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Hello Tietäjä
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Location: Preston, UK
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can someone please explain what happened here?
(bare in mind someone may have given me these and they're actually referring to an old round's breps, but it seems unlikely given that the planet names are correct given the active universe? also bare in mind i havent been here for about 5months and am not sure what the efficincies work on other than that in the manual):
The damage done to the primary, secondary and tertiary target claases are 100%, 60% and 30% of the "damage" field
http://195.149.21.23/show_news.pl?id=00033
there's 17k phantoms. they're FI > CO(T2) init 5
there's 1.5k cutlass. they're stealers on CO>FI init21
SURELY 17.5k phantoms would shoot first, killing about 3,500 cutlass, and surely even at 60% efficiency 17.5k would be enough to kill nearly all the attacking CO? Why then do the phantoms get killed (even when the damage indicator should be steal, POST phantom), and the cutlass and other attacking CO survive?
http://195.149.21.23/show_news.pl?id=00036
again, there's 2k black widows (FR>CO emp) and they dont seem to target these Cutter/Privateer... and the Cutter also do not return fire on their T2 co>fr....
... hopefully this is a big mistake and someone can explain this away and tell me what's gone wrong in my understanding - i hope it is something as simple as 'yeah tux, they're old breps from round 21 or something and the planet names have been auto-updated or something'. but i honestly cant figure it out. and if thats the case, can you update the manual so that combat explains in better detail how targeting of 2nd/3rd targets works?
thanks
- tux
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6 Nov 2007, 18:19
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mz.
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Re: can someone please explain what happened here?
Interesting. I can't think of an explanation either.
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6 Nov 2007, 18:28
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Re: can someone please explain what happened here?
No ideas here
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6 Nov 2007, 18:41
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Re: can someone please explain what happened here?
there was an issue with the ticker using the wrong combat engine, it used the old one and not the new, that is why there doesn't seem to be a t2 "firing".
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6 Nov 2007, 21:13
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mz.
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Re: can someone please explain what happened here?
*facepalm*
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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7 Nov 2007, 00:50
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NE
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: UK
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Re: can someone please explain what happened here?
Your playing the speed round, and infact those ships dont have multiple targetting.
:/
Edit: Taxiiiiiiiiiiii
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7 Nov 2007, 09:24
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Hello Tietäjä
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Re: can someone please explain what happened here?
no, that's the IP of the normal server - my work has planetarion blocked.
i dont udnerstand it? I hope anyone that was affected was compensated, and if it was a case of using the wrong combat engine - I hope that's also fixed now.
thing is though, even if it was using the old combat engine, surely BW's T1 (co) should have worked???
No official comments tho? :-s
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7 Nov 2007, 10:17
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Re: can someone please explain what happened here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cincinnatus
there was an issue with the ticker using the wrong combat engine, it used the old one and not the new, that is why there doesn't seem to be a t2 "firing".
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LOL. Is it fixed yet?
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7 Nov 2007, 12:08
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PA Team
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Re: can someone please explain what happened here?
yes, it was fixed in tick 84 or so, appoco spent an hour going over combats and fixing things, and those which had things added/removed should have a ingame mail from him
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Originally Posted by -Blue Moon-
thing is though, even if it was using the old combat engine, surely BW's T1 (co) should have worked???
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the old one uses "target", the new one uses target1, target2, target3, the old engine didn't fire cause target is empty
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7 Nov 2007, 14:20
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Hello Tietäjä
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Re: can someone please explain what happened here?
ok well i didnt see an ingame announcement about this or any hubbub on the forums, but that's fine if it's been sorted :-)
at least it's good now and people got their ships/roids back etc (too bad for those who thought they had free raids eh ;-))
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