User Name
Password

Go Back   Planetarion Forums > Planetarion Related Forums > Strategic Discussions

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 6 Mar 2012, 00:25   #1
Gary
xVx Peon
 
Gary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Coventry
Posts: 268
Gary is an unknown quantity at this point
R46 Stats

Do we know who is developing them, and when it is likely to be released?
__________________
VisioN
xVx
Gary is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 6 Mar 2012, 16:09   #2
Zaejii
This Space for Rent
Speedy Thief Champion, Turbo Turtle Champion, Cop-For-This Champion
 
Zaejii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 583
Zaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud of
Re: R46 Stats

I elect you, Gary. Therefore they will be released when you are finished with them. Good luck, have fun!
__________________
When in doubt, blame Ascendancy.
#pastats
Zaejii is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10 Mar 2012, 06:31   #3
Tiamat101
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 846
Tiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the rough
Re: R46 Stats

http://beta.planetarion.com/manual.p...n=839064689419

Stats are up in beta.

ThoeDD made them. Enjoy the last crap round of PA.
__________________
R50-55 Faceless
Tiamat101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10 Mar 2012, 10:20   #4
neroon
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 734
neroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of light
Re: R46 Stats

meh, thats really mixed up stats.. interesting
__________________
VISION FTW
THIS IS ULTORES
neroon is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10 Mar 2012, 10:25   #5
Tiamat101
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 846
Tiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the rough
Re: R46 Stats

It's not even going to be playable with co that shoots bs and cr/bs that shoots co. The game has been ruined unless that change happens. At this point ill be able to play if that gets fixed otherwise most of the community will not play because it'll end up being a 95% fi/co round.
__________________
R50-55 Faceless
Tiamat101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10 Mar 2012, 11:12   #6
neroon
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 734
neroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of light
Re: R46 Stats

but its interesting i dont give a damn personally who plays or who not the game is dead neways
__________________
VISION FTW
THIS IS ULTORES
neroon is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10 Mar 2012, 11:55   #7
Plaguuu
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 477
Plaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nice
Re: R46 Stats

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiamat101 View Post
It's not even going to be playable with co that shoots bs and cr/bs that shoots co. The game has been ruined unless that change happens. At this point ill be able to play if that gets fixed otherwise most of the community will not play because it'll end up being a 95% fi/co round.
Lol kinda hard to make stats that make you play, when you didnt even play last round when you made em yourself

And I see no reason for fico targetting crbs to ruin a round its not like you know the ac/dc of the ship. Nice to see that you're capable to think inside the box tho
Plaguuu is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10 Mar 2012, 13:09   #8
Kaiba
Valle is my hero
 
Kaiba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,581
Kaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud of
Re: R46 Stats

Tia did play last round

Tia: why will it be 95% fi/co round? Some of those bs fleets look nice. I think it might be Eyd heavy just cod of the 3 ship build but that's all.


I know I'm a pa n00b but WTF is a res ship? In the ziks.

And why doesnt Terran have 3 pods?
Kaiba is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10 Mar 2012, 14:06   #9
ArcChas
General (Adjective Army)
 
ArcChas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Yorkshire, England.
Posts: 825
ArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud of
Re: R46 Stats

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiba View Post
And why doesnt Terran have 3 pods?
And why is Terran the only race with SKs?

For a (brief) moment I thought that SKs had been deliberately removed. I still hope that is the case.
__________________
Amnion (aka The Arcane Chas of Arcania) - Playing PA under those and other pseudonyms every genuine round since Round 2. Most recently (and insignificantly):
Onset of Apathy R94 | Stacks of Resources R95 | The Necromancer of Dol Guldur R96
70 Years of Queen Elizabeth R97 | Worst of The Worst R98
Knights of the Green Shield R99 | Look Out of The Window R100 | Most of All R102
Hard of Hearing (2:7:1) R103 | The Lateness of Your Application (1:6:6) R104 | Kinnison of Tellus (5:1:2) R105
ArcChas is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10 Mar 2012, 14:14   #10
Plaguuu
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 477
Plaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nice
Re: R46 Stats

Terran and zik has 2 pods

Terran is the only race with sk, and zik got a ship that steals resources.
Plaguuu is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10 Mar 2012, 15:12   #11
Kaiba
Valle is my hero
 
Kaiba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,581
Kaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud of
Re: R46 Stats

So zik has a ship that relys on a Planet having resources spare??? Pointless!!! Just give everything 3 pods!!!

There quite interesting stats tho, no doubt they will be ruined by appoco and whingers before tick start tho...

And Tia ppl said that everyone would quit over pl change last round yet most still played, these stats won't effect anyone, just puts more emphasis on alliances to play with an original strategy!!!
Kaiba is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10 Mar 2012, 16:03   #12
Reincarnate
ToF
 
Reincarnate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: England
Posts: 607
Reincarnate is a name known to allReincarnate is a name known to allReincarnate is a name known to allReincarnate is a name known to allReincarnate is a name known to allReincarnate is a name known to all
Re: R46 Stats

stats look quite interesting. at first glance, without checking eff etc, i would change tycoon and vsh to init 2 (maybe even 1 for tyc).

also, interceptor is not a terran ship name and vsh is not an emp ship name
__________________
[19:10] <coffee-> dont worry about Reincarnate he is an angry man

R1 - 9 none | R10.5 - 13 [ToF] | R14 [Reunion] | R15-17 [Subh] | R18 - 36 PA vacation | R37 [Evo] | R38 [NFI] | R39 & 40 [ToF] | R41 [Omega] | R42 - 47 [ToF][HC]
Reincarnate is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10 Mar 2012, 16:47   #13
Monroe
Planetarion Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,289
Monroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud of
Re: R46 Stats

If Invoker is left as is CR/BS will be completely unplayable. There is a reason no FI/CO ship has targeted CR/BS since r13.... Namely because it crushed all CR/BS fleets, 3 ticks to find ally defense is insane. Otherwise the stats are an interesting start.
__________________
Romans 10:9-10

#strategy
Monroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11 Mar 2012, 02:40   #14
budious
Egoistic Warmonger
 
budious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 109
budious has a spectacular aura aboutbudious has a spectacular aura about
Re: R46 Stats

I don't like the idea of hulls1:hulls3 combat under any circumstances. However, if you were to implement these stats then I would suggest swapping CR/BS to hulls1 research and FI/CO to hulls3 research. I never quite got the advantage of having +2 eta as tech1 and working backwards on the tech tree. The main benefit of the tech tree is the extra +2 eta with the +4 from the travel branch; as it is now since FI/CO is hulls1 only +4 benefits come into play, but swap around it around and you effectively make the game +6(+4+2) on eta researches.
budious is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11 Mar 2012, 09:49   #15
Mzyxptlk
mz.
Alien Invasion Champion, Submarine Champion, Tiger Punch Champion, Barts Watersports Adventure Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,587
Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.
Re: R46 Stats

I like that.
__________________
The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
Mzyxptlk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11 Mar 2012, 15:51   #16
SantaCruz
I've been around
 
SantaCruz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 385
SantaCruz is a splendid one to beholdSantaCruz is a splendid one to beholdSantaCruz is a splendid one to beholdSantaCruz is a splendid one to beholdSantaCruz is a splendid one to beholdSantaCruz is a splendid one to beholdSantaCruz is a splendid one to beholdSantaCruz is a splendid one to behold
Re: R46 Stats

Keep it simple. cr/bs targeting fi/co almost always has unbalanced the round. Anyways GL with stats. Even when they are playable people never stfu about them.
;-D
__________________
-=Faceless=-
-=Forever VisioN=-
SantaCruz is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11 Mar 2012, 18:30   #17
Abort
Dumb Yankee
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 89
Abort has a little shameless behaviour in the past
Re: R46 Stats

I guess the question here is... Are these stats offensive? Does having 3 pods in 3 of 5 races make them more offensive?

I've only been able to check out these stats on my phone, but as I currently see it, etd bs looks pretty strong teamed with Terran bs. Fr/de looks awkward, inits and effs may need to be looked at. Fi/co seems viable to an extent, xan is its own worst enemy... Which xan players have been used to over the years.

I'm not convinced that these stats are offensive enough... That's what we want right?
__________________
Abort is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12 Mar 2012, 04:39   #18
Zaejii
This Space for Rent
Speedy Thief Champion, Turbo Turtle Champion, Cop-For-This Champion
 
Zaejii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 583
Zaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud ofZaejii has much to be proud of
Re: R46 Stats

Hey ThoeDD,

Is there any way you could post any (big) changes you make to the forums, as its difficult to follow the discussions here related to the "current" stat iteration.

Ex: Almost every post above this is obsolete since fi/co no longer targets cr/bs and vice versa.

Thanks,
__________________
When in doubt, blame Ascendancy.
#pastats
Zaejii is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12 Mar 2012, 07:15   #19
Tiamat101
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 846
Tiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the rough
Re: R46 Stats

In case those are wondering there is a change log on the Beta Forums ingame.
__________________
R50-55 Faceless
Tiamat101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12 Mar 2012, 07:22   #20
neroon
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 734
neroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of light
Re: R46 Stats

so everything is gettin back to same old usual shit? (havent checked the stats now)
__________________
VISION FTW
THIS IS ULTORES
neroon is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12 Mar 2012, 14:09   #21
TheoDD
Registered User
Othello Champion, Solitaire Champion, Anime BlackJack Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 707
TheoDD has a spectacular aura aboutTheoDD has a spectacular aura about
Re: R46 Stats

Beet +2 dmg
Scarab +3arm
Guardian t2 - none
netherdrake - t1 fr t2 none
gryphon t1 - t2 swap
Titan t1 fr, init 6, -4 arm
Dreadlord t1 de t2 fr
invoker init 7

this is the last change made.
TheoDD is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12 Mar 2012, 18:40   #22
Tiamat101
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 846
Tiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the rough
Re: R46 Stats

So we are still going for Defensive stats i see?
__________________
R50-55 Faceless
Tiamat101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12 Mar 2012, 19:12   #23
dabult
Ark-miner wannabe
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,005
dabult will become famous soon enoughdabult will become famous soon enough
Re: R46 Stats

Cargo ships! Oh the nostalgia!
__________________
Ain't no mountain high enough.
Click here to start a new life
dabult is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12 Mar 2012, 20:02   #24
Plaguuu
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 477
Plaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nice
Re: R46 Stats

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiamat101 View Post
So we are still going for Defensive stats i see?
Care to explain or is this just random trolling from your side?
Plaguuu is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13 Mar 2012, 04:41   #25
Tiamat101
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 846
Tiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the rough
Re: R46 Stats

Lol Plaguuu When 1 def fleet covers most incs they are another set of defensive stats, also any fi/co based stats are inherently defensive since fr/de can't be played.


Also you can't land an attack unless you have emp in the attack meaning that only 2 races can attack. Since none of the other classes have the eff's needed to land certianly not Zik or Ter. Xan might be able to land if they decide to play chicken.
__________________
R50-55 Faceless
Tiamat101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13 Mar 2012, 08:43   #26
Colt
Mercenary
 
Colt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Todmorden
Posts: 1,192
Colt is a name known to allColt is a name known to allColt is a name known to allColt is a name known to allColt is a name known to allColt is a name known to all
Re: R46 Stats

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiamat101 View Post
Lol Plaguuu When 1 def fleet covers most incs they are another set of defensive stats, also any fi/co based stats are inherently defensive since fr/de can't be played.
Yes they can, might be harder, but they can still be played....


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiamat101 View Post
Also you can't land an attack unless you have emp in the attack meaning that only 2 races can attack. Since none of the other classes have the eff's needed to land certianly not Zik or Ter. Xan might be able to land if they decide to play chicken.
Emp is a bonus, not a necessity. You can land attacks without it.
__________________
FAnG
Ascendancy
Apprime
Ultores
Colt is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13 Mar 2012, 08:54   #27
Kaiba
Valle is my hero
 
Kaiba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,581
Kaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud of
Re: R46 Stats

Politics are defensive... Not stats. The players and alliances stagnate rounds, not the stats
Kaiba is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13 Mar 2012, 10:43   #28
Plaguuu
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 477
Plaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nicePlaguuu is just really nice
Re: R46 Stats

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiamat101 View Post
Lol Plaguuu When 1 def fleet covers most incs they are another set of defensive stats, also any fi/co based stats are inherently defensive since fr/de can't be played.


Also you can't land an attack unless you have emp in the attack meaning that only 2 races can attack. Since none of the other classes have the eff's needed to land certianly not Zik or Ter. Xan might be able to land if they decide to play chicken.
Hah It was you under a fakenick that was so mad on irc lawl.
Every race can land somewhere if the target dont get defense. If the target get defense you cant land there. Wehu thats how alliances work! Emp is a great attack partner is that a bad thing? Or do we strictly want emp to be scanning def whores ?
Plaguuu is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13 Mar 2012, 10:59   #29
neroon
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 734
neroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of lightneroon is a glorious beacon of light
Re: R46 Stats

every MT based stat set is defensive :/

ST FOR THE WIN!
__________________
VISION FTW
THIS IS ULTORES
neroon is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13 Mar 2012, 13:19   #30
Patrikc
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 957
Patrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant future
Re: R46 Stats

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiba View Post
Politics are defensive... Not stats. The players and alliances stagnate rounds, not the stats
That's the biggest load of bull I've heard in a while, I'm not even sure if it's worthwhile to type out an explanation.
Patrikc is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13 Mar 2012, 19:44   #31
Psi_K
Canadian to the Core
 
Psi_K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,004
Psi_K is a jewel in the roughPsi_K is a jewel in the roughPsi_K is a jewel in the roughPsi_K is a jewel in the rough
Re: R46 Stats

Quote:
Originally Posted by dabult View Post
Cargo ships! Oh the nostalgia!
Do we have a clue if it even works?
__________________
[DTA] Forever
r2-5 [LOST] - r6 [Instinct] - r7-8 [Titans] -r9 [Olympians] -DC
r10 [Elysium] -DC - r11-12 [MISTU] -DC/IA - r13-15 [Angels] - DC
r18-19 [eXi]
<Intermission>
r31-32 [CT] - r33-35 [DLR] - r36 [VsN] - r37 [???]
r45-46 [FAnG]
Psi_K is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13 Mar 2012, 21:01   #32
Monroe
Planetarion Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,289
Monroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud ofMonroe has much to be proud of
Re: R46 Stats

Quote:
Originally Posted by Psi_K View Post
Do we have a clue if it even works?
I'm sure appocomaster coded it, so if course it works*!






*After Cin fixes it.
__________________
Romans 10:9-10

#strategy
Monroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 13 Mar 2012, 22:01   #33
[DDK]gm
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 898
[DDK]gm has a brilliant future[DDK]gm has a brilliant future[DDK]gm has a brilliant future[DDK]gm has a brilliant future[DDK]gm has a brilliant future[DDK]gm has a brilliant future[DDK]gm has a brilliant future[DDK]gm has a brilliant future[DDK]gm has a brilliant future[DDK]gm has a brilliant future[DDK]gm has a brilliant future
Re: R46 Stats

I hope MH are going to be on the ball then, res farming, ship farming...
__________________
R4-5 DDK
R6 Vanx
R7-R10 FAnG
R10 Eclipse
R10.5-R13 FAnG
R20-23 CT
R23 (CT BG) ToF
R24-R82... CT
[DDK]gm is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 14 Mar 2012, 03:17   #34
HeimdallR
Registered User
 
HeimdallR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 673
HeimdallR will become famous soon enoughHeimdallR will become famous soon enough
Re: R46 Stats

Quote:
Originally Posted by budious View Post
I don't like the idea of hulls1:hulls3 combat under any circumstances. However, if you were to implement these stats then I would suggest swapping CR/BS to hulls1 research and FI/CO to hulls3 research. I never quite got the advantage of having +2 eta as tech1 and working backwards on the tech tree. The main benefit of the tech tree is the extra +2 eta with the +4 from the travel branch; as it is now since FI/CO is hulls1 only +4 benefits come into play, but swap around it around and you effectively make the game +6(+4+2) on eta researches.
good idea
__________________
At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."

If life hands you lemons, drink more tequila

After the game is over the king and the pawn end up in the same box

HA - asc -rdm-asc-VR- #ODDR - APP
Finally retired
HeimdallR is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 14 Mar 2012, 07:21   #35
Kaiba
Valle is my hero
 
Kaiba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,581
Kaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud ofKaiba has much to be proud of
Re: R46 Stats

Quote:
Originally Posted by [DDK]gm View Post
I hope MH are going to be on the ball then, res farming, ship farming...

their not on the ball without it let alone with it!!!

Its the perfect late signup ship for farming resources from n00b planets - like zik doesnt have a big enough advantage already through value stealing

TheoDD you shoudl change the name from Galleon to Harvester!!!!
Kaiba is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 14 Mar 2012, 10:23   #36
Mzyxptlk
mz.
Alien Invasion Champion, Submarine Champion, Tiger Punch Champion, Barts Watersports Adventure Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,587
Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.Mzyxptlk has ascended to a higher existance and no longer needs rep points to prove the size of his e-penis.
Re: R46 Stats

Honestly, while the cargo ship fits with the philosophy of ZIk, I'd be more inclined to give it to another race, for the sake of balance.
__________________
The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
Mzyxptlk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 14 Mar 2012, 19:34   #37
TheoDD
Registered User
Othello Champion, Solitaire Champion, Anime BlackJack Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 707
TheoDD has a spectacular aura aboutTheoDD has a spectacular aura about
Re: R46 Stats

Name changes
Appariton = Ant
Netherdrake = Cobra
Carrier = Thor
Corruptor = Wraith
Stat changes
Phoenix +2 armor
Enforcer -1 armor
Tempest init 11
Guardian -6 armor +6 dmg
TheoDD is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 16 Mar 2012, 03:21   #38
Blue_Esper
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,038
Blue_Esper is a glorious beacon of lightBlue_Esper is a glorious beacon of lightBlue_Esper is a glorious beacon of lightBlue_Esper is a glorious beacon of lightBlue_Esper is a glorious beacon of lightBlue_Esper is a glorious beacon of light
Re: R46 Stats

The best way to make attacking stats is to increase the DEFENSE of a ship not the OFFENSE.
As everyone pretty much plays a value planet, people wont land if they lose a lot of value (about 150k) per planet is usually a recall for most people. If you increase the def points of a ship it makes it harder to lose that ship, so you'd need a shit load of def ships just to stop a fleet....Making it more viable to land
__________________
Did some stuff, played here n there done just about all there is to do
Blue_Esper is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 16 Mar 2012, 19:52   #39
Patrikc
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 957
Patrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant future
Re: R46 Stats

The best way is to force people to build 4-6 ships rather than 2-3, so that

a) there's less value in anti-<your attack fleet> overall and
b) there is more counterbuilding - if you want to hit people with Y, you build more anti-Y and you hit them

With the current stats, or rather any multi-targeting ones, people just pick two ships to focus on offensively and one to defend with and build those 3. I think the future of PA is in a universe where there are many more classes than we currently have, and roid-swapping isn't as 'bad' as it currently is. Perhaps rather than just mining asteroids, you'd also get a resource boost from capping them, making it not as essential to defleech and/or planetnap the whole universe, and encouraging offensive play.
Patrikc is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 16 Mar 2012, 21:49   #40
isildurx
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Noruega
Posts: 2,999
isildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond repute
Re: R46 Stats

Wait, not only does zik start with a fi pod, they also have a resource-stealing ship in that class!?!? Someone explain why anyone would not go zik.
__________________
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of War"
isildurx is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 16 Mar 2012, 22:14   #41
TheoDD
Registered User
Othello Champion, Solitaire Champion, Anime BlackJack Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 707
TheoDD has a spectacular aura aboutTheoDD has a spectacular aura about
Re: R46 Stats

Quote:
Originally Posted by isildurx View Post
Wait, not only does zik start with a fi pod, they also have a resource-stealing ship in that class!?!? Someone explain why anyone would not go zik.
Where is this fi pod?
TheoDD is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 16 Mar 2012, 22:27   #42
Tiamat101
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 846
Tiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the rough
Re: R46 Stats

Isildurx its not a roid stealer, its only a resource stealer. Check your brain for aids then try speaking again.
__________________
R50-55 Faceless
Tiamat101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 16 Mar 2012, 22:40   #43
isildurx
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Noruega
Posts: 2,999
isildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond repute
Re: R46 Stats

Haha, you're one to speak. In this single instance you are correct though, my bad.

edit: my point still stands though, not exactly going to be hard for ziks to steal some fi pods from xan fakes
__________________
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of War"
isildurx is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 17 Mar 2012, 00:19   #44
Patrikc
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 957
Patrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant futurePatrikc has a brilliant future
Re: R46 Stats

It is for Ziks that hit inactives only to find they hid their base fleet. Now they will be compensated with resources to soften the blow.
Patrikc is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 17 Mar 2012, 01:06   #45
ArcChas
General (Adjective Army)
 
ArcChas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Yorkshire, England.
Posts: 825
ArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud ofArcChas has much to be proud of
Re: R46 Stats

LOL

That's really what we needed - something to (further) encourage bottom-feeding Ziks.
__________________
Amnion (aka The Arcane Chas of Arcania) - Playing PA under those and other pseudonyms every genuine round since Round 2. Most recently (and insignificantly):
Onset of Apathy R94 | Stacks of Resources R95 | The Necromancer of Dol Guldur R96
70 Years of Queen Elizabeth R97 | Worst of The Worst R98
Knights of the Green Shield R99 | Look Out of The Window R100 | Most of All R102
Hard of Hearing (2:7:1) R103 | The Lateness of Your Application (1:6:6) R104 | Kinnison of Tellus (5:1:2) R105
ArcChas is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 17 Mar 2012, 12:04   #46
isildurx
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Noruega
Posts: 2,999
isildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond reputeisildurx has a reputation beyond repute
Re: R46 Stats

Going to be at least 40% ziks.
__________________
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of War"
isildurx is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 17 Mar 2012, 12:07   #47
Bowlsey
Lover of Cheesecake
 
Bowlsey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Australia
Posts: 60
Bowlsey is on a distinguished road
Re: R46 Stats

Not many people enjoy playing zik, I doubt it will be as high as 40%.... That said, with these stats I would play zik.
__________________
rd1 XFA/UXF, rd2 WaCjr, rd3-6 Elysium, rd7-9.5 RaH
=Break=
rd21 Angels, rd23 Jenova, rd24 NewDawn, rd25 TGV, rd26 Jenova
=Break=
rd41-44 TGV, rd45-46 FAnG, rd47 HaVeN rd48-49 FAnG
=Break=
Rd55+ Ultores
Bowlsey is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 18 Mar 2012, 01:40   #48
Greg
Addicted since R17
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 141
Greg has a spectacular aura aboutGreg has a spectacular aura about
Re: R46 Stats

zik fi pods gone?just 1 roider?with run and hide?ur taking the piss,,,,,as usual cheaters will have the best fleets,,,,ruined decent stats,gutted
__________________
h-a = CT = h-a = Vision = ODDR = Apprime = ODDR = xVx = h-a = xVx = ODDR -Ult -Rock--Fang-HODORS-ODDR-ND-Kittenz-Carisian-Vgn-Tal Shiar-CaRn-ODDR
Best finish's 15, 17, 18, 25, 27, 27, 29, 38, 38
Co founder ODDR/Tal Shiar
Regular member of fleet crashing club
“A man's errors are his portals of discovery.”
James Joyce
Greg is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 18 Mar 2012, 02:14   #49
Tiamat101
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 846
Tiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the roughTiamat101 is a jewel in the rough
Re: R46 Stats

Umm Greg they still have frigate and battleship pods ontop of a fi res stealer. But yes only cheaters will have good zik fleets
__________________
R50-55 Faceless
Tiamat101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 18 Mar 2012, 02:21   #50
eksero
Registered User
What-A-Shot Champion
 
eksero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,143
eksero has much to be proud ofeksero has much to be proud ofeksero has much to be proud ofeksero has much to be proud ofeksero has much to be proud ofeksero has much to be proud ofeksero has much to be proud ofeksero has much to be proud ofeksero has much to be proud of
Re: R46 Stats

im playing zik!
eksero is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 15:00.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2002 - 2018