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26 May 2007, 06:35
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Dealing with Young People
I have recently had my assignment at the DA's office changed. After being in the homicide unit for about 18 years (10 as the supervisor) I have been moved to supervising the misdemeanor team. This is the entry level for attornies ina DA's office.
I now have nine new attornies to mentor.
I have to admit that my time chatting with the members of gd has actually been of some use in allowing me to communicate with young people.
This could be your chance to influence the lives of others.
Give me advice on how to deal with supervising people who are much nearer to your age than they are to mine.
Any do's or don'ts?
Any tips on what they will actually be thinking when they are smiling at me and saying "Yes sir" after I have given them some inane direction just to screw with their impressionable young minds?
Should I put all managerial decisions uip to gd and see what as a collective group we can do to the criminal justice system in central California?
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26 May 2007, 09:11
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The PropaGhandi
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Re: Dealing with Young People
The people here are to nerdy to do anything criminal atleast.
You do have wannabes like Gordon and Dace, but they are all pimple, no action.
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26 May 2007, 09:15
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Re: Dealing with Young People
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Originally Posted by dda-II
Should I put all managerial decisions uip to gd and see what as a collective group we can do to the criminal justice system in central California?
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Now you got me scared.
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26 May 2007, 13:22
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Re: Dealing with Young People
Treat them how you would older people and they will be grateful and like you
Unless they take the piss, in which case fire them immediately.
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26 May 2007, 13:30
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Re: Dealing with Young People
Some of them probably think the world evolves around them. If so is the case, you might want to put them down to earth sooner than later.
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26 May 2007, 13:50
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Re: Dealing with Young People
I do not really get it, have you been demoted?
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26 May 2007, 14:05
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Re: Dealing with Young People
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Originally Posted by G.K Zhukov
Some of them probably think the world evolves around them.
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They're attorneys. I think we can assume that's a given*.
*Assuming you meant revolves.
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26 May 2007, 14:11
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Re: Dealing with Young People
thanks, tac, ofc I ment revolves.
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26 May 2007, 14:24
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Re: Dealing with Young People
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I do not really get it, have you been demoted?
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26 May 2007, 14:27
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Re: Dealing with Young People
I am NOT a manager; btw.
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26 May 2007, 14:41
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Re: Dealing with Young People
Seeing as you are a lot older and have a lot more experience than them I assume that they will expect you to know what you`re talking about. So on the plus side they`ll listen to you and probably do what you tell them to do.
As long as you don`t try and act their age (e.g. saying "Yo dudes, I bought Timbaland`s new track the other day, it`s super phat!") then I don`t see any real problems arising.
By the sounds of it you`re already a supervisor so Just treat them like you treated the people you supervised in the past.
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26 May 2007, 16:00
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Re: Dealing with Young People
Despite what they say, secure people ultimately want a mentor they can look up to rather than someone that engages with them on their own level. If youre effortlessly competent and show it then those that are driven are going to respect you, regardless of whether you go out of your way to learn da lingo of da kids.
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26 May 2007, 18:45
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Re: Dealing with Young People
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Originally Posted by Knight Theamion
I do not really get it, have you been demoted?
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No. The position of supervising the homicide unit is very easy and has little impact as you are supervising people who need no supervision. They are among the most competent people in the office and thus supervision of them usually consists of handing them cases and then listening to them when they wish to rant about what some judge or defense attorney has done that didn't quite suit them.
Being the supervisor of the misdemeanor team is much more demanding in that you need to teach them most of the fundementals of how to actually function as an attorney in an all-too-real courtroom.
There are so many things which new attorneys need to know which I take for granted. I forget so many of the basics which someone had to teach me when I first began.
I keep telling them that my job is to teach them to make proper decisions, not to make those decisions for them. I also feel responsible for teaching them a higher standard of ethics than they would get from watching television or motion picture depictions of prosecutors.
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26 May 2007, 18:47
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Re: Dealing with Young People
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Originally Posted by Tactitus
They're attorneys. I think we can assume that's a given*.
*Assuming you meant revolves.
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Not true. We aren't doctors you know.
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26 May 2007, 18:51
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Re: Dealing with Young People
I'd say to be patient and understanding with the newbies (everyone will commit at least one ****up). At the same time, as Deepflow said, treat them like any other attorney and they'll be grateful to have a boss that doesn't treat them like shit. Earn their respect, not through showing off your record but through your actions - demonstrating how to win. They should be fairly reverent of you anyway, given that you're the DDA, but there's nothing like seeing you do your stuff.
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26 May 2007, 18:55
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Re: Dealing with Young People
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Originally Posted by ChubbyChecker
As long as you don`t try and act their age (e.g. saying "Yo dudes, I bought Timbaland`s new track the other day, it`s super phat!") then I don`t see any real problems arising.
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This is a mistake I can probably avoid as I was never much for lingo, dude.
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26 May 2007, 18:56
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Re: Dealing with Young People
Show em that you post on this forum, and they should be in awe of your youthfullness!
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<Germania>but you called Fury a bully, and that is terribly unfair
<Hicks>Occassionally individuals do things without Executive consent
<Dreadnought>You cant whois on Eclipse server without a registered nic, which mr ****stirrer doesnt have.
<Almeida> well i like to grow fat myself too, and when i have enough ships then i can engage in big battles
<Nantoz> Zhukov for Lord Protector!
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26 May 2007, 18:57
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Re: Dealing with Young People
You shold take them to some remote desert area.
Once there, you should ask them a series of questions (legal or otherwise, I'll leave that to your discretion).
the first one to get a question wrong, you kill them (gun is easiest, but again whateever you feel most comfortable with)
Get the rest to bury the body by digging the grave with their bare hands.
You will permantly gain the full attention.
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26 May 2007, 19:04
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Re: Dealing with Young People
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Originally Posted by All Systems Go
You shold take them to some remote desert area.
Once there, you should ask them a series of questions (legal or otherwise, I'll leave that to your discretion).
the first one to get a question wrong, you kill them (gun is easiest, but again whateever you feel most comfortable with)
Get the rest to bury the body by digging the grave with their bare hands.
You will permantly gain the full attention.
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26 May 2007, 19:08
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Re: Dealing with Young People
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There are so many things which new attorneys need to know which I take for granted. I forget so many of the basics which someone had to teach me when I first began.
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you know what they say, once you get to a certain point to expand your own skills you have to teach them to others so that you can learn your own shortcomings
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