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Unread 28 Oct 2011, 23:54   #1
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Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

Too long has this injustice been allowed to continue!


I've been thinking of this for a long time, and while I haven't fully convinced myself that it's the right course of action, I'd like to open it up for discussion. Basically, a change to the current ETA system.

- Enable Research to reduce the ETA of fr/de/cr/bs by 1, and an additional 1 for cr/bs by a follow-up research.
- Remove the last two Space Travel researches, and reduce the current universal ETA by 1
- Enable another Research at the end of the tree which gives you an additional -1 to alliance defense missions.


What do I want to achieve with this?

I want to (finally) have fi/co fall in line with the other classes, giving defense two ticks to organize against it, with all ships showing up as eta 8 and defense being eta 7. Along with that, the game won't be so god awfully slow in the early stages of the game for people who go cr/bs. Fi/co will still have the upper hand in that they won't be as research dependent and have faster ETA until 300-400 ticks in.
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Unread 29 Oct 2011, 00:02   #2
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

you can remove FR/DE completely in that case (as there are too much ships targetting them in pretty much any set anyone ever come up with, but with cr/bs being slower that wasn't necessarily a problem, when cr/bs gets the same eta they'll be ****ed completely)
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Unread 29 Oct 2011, 01:46   #3
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

Except Fr/De can then also defend vs Fi/Co.
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

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Unread 29 Oct 2011, 08:24   #5
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

Would be worth experimenting with
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Unread 29 Oct 2011, 18:41   #6
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

I'd be willing to try it, maybe as a christmas round?
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

sounds like a good idea to me

deffo worth a try
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

how about since fico are never in real or sci fi long range that htey can only be used in cluster on attack/def oooooo or ingal ofc
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

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how about since fico are never in real or sci fi long range that htey can only be used in cluster on attack/def oooooo or ingal ofc
What about star wars? x-wings can do hyperspace jumps

On a more serious note I don't see the point, might as well get rid of them unless they're going to be pretty overpowered.
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star wars isnt sci fi or real life ... id take the muppet babies over that fantasy crap!!!! Live long and prosper
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I take it that is MM's way of saying
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

Maybe keep the conversation relevant to the OP. PA Team struggles as it is to read the forums, when a suggestion gets put up we can at least stay on topic. If you read something that inspires your own idea, don't put "or, instead of that idea, we could do this idea". If it's a new idea that you've put enough thought into, give it it's own thread. Otherwise, shut the hell up.
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

you act like anything will ever actually change.
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

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you can remove FR/DE completely in that case (as there are too much ships targetting them in pretty much any set anyone ever come up with, but with cr/bs being slower that wasn't necessarily a problem, when cr/bs gets the same eta they'll be ****ed completely)
Depends on the stats, eh?

But yeh, an interesting new dynamic for the game for people to play around with! Pro!
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

If every fleet has the same eta then cr\bs can obbviously also target fico and vice versa. If this does happen then I think we need to have some other way to distinguish between the various shipclasses, f.ex fico have lower init, crbs have higher armor etc.
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Re: Reduce fr/de and cr/bs ETA to fall in line with fi/co

I've wanted Unified ETA for years, but adding it through research is the icing on the cake.

Too many times Fr/DE target Fi/CO without a chance to defend outside of galaxy.

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