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Unread 23 Oct 2013, 20:52   #51
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I Guess he tries to say its not possibole to just say that they are going for the win without having a team wich would be able to put in a hell lot of effort to do so.
And even investing so much effort and will into winning aint Worth it as in the end its not sure if its up to you if Your gonna win or not

I would like to just point out that in r51 when vikings wouldnt stab App in the back and we were fine with them winning the round you went all crazy on us and such. Here we have a similar situation with Fang stating they didnt play for the win but do I see hate or other things that you threw at vikings in r51? Nope just a casual statement.

Very interesting......
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Unread 23 Oct 2013, 21:18   #52
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I would like to just point out that in r51 when vikings wouldnt stab App in the back and we were fine with them winning the round you went all crazy on us and such. Here we have a similar situation with Fang stating they didnt play for the win but do I see hate or other things that you threw at vikings in r51? Nope just a casual statement.

Very interesting......
So, what you are saying, is that either FAnG or someone theyve preblocked with has been #1 since pt200, and theyve stagnated the hell out of the, and FAnG is saying if alliance B wins its all okey for them, their whole purpose of the round was to get 3rd or 2nd, as long as their preround Block allie win?
This is not what Connovar is saying FAnG did afaik. Again claiming he didnt think FAnG would be a full tag how ever is funny, he keeps claiming this every time
But hey, you know, its me we are talking about.
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So, what you are saying, is that either FAnG or someone theyve preblocked with has been #1 since pt200, and theyve stagnated the hell out of the, and FAnG is saying if alliance B wins its all okey for them, their whole purpose of the round was to get 3rd or 2nd, as long as their preround Block allie win?
This is not what Connovar is saying FAnG did afaik. Again claiming he didnt think FAnG would be a full tag how ever is funny, he keeps claiming this every time
But hey, you know, its me we are talking about.
No I am just pointing out that when Vikings said they were fine not winning you went all nuts on us but here fang is saying the same thing, doesnt matter what their circumstances is for not pursuing the win, but your just taking it calmly. Double standards I would assume but hey, kinda used to it by now from you.

EDIT: Vik/App didnt pre-block, we just knew how close fang/nd are (and we were proven right again this round) so had an agreement that if they block vs us we would help each other out.
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Re: Message to Vikings from Spore

That kind of agreement tends to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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No I am just pointing out that when Vikings said they were fine not winning you went all nuts on us but here fang is saying the same thing, doesnt matter what their circumstances is for not pursuing the win, but your just taking it calmly. Double standards I would assume but hey, kinda used to it by now from you.

EDIT: Vik/App didnt pre-block, we just knew how close fang/nd are (and we were proven right again this round) so had an agreement that if they block vs us we would help each other out.

Didnt you come to ODDR saying if ODDR wanted People in the TGVApprime BPs preround, they still needed someone from a 3rd alliance like ODDR? Or am i totaly mistaken?
And the shared HC channels from the beginning With App/ODDR/TGV were actualy premade channels With no purpose in case of emergency?
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Unread 23 Oct 2013, 22:37   #56
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Didnt you come to ODDR saying if ODDR wanted People in the TGVApprime BPs preround, they still needed someone from a 3rd alliance like ODDR? Or am i totaly mistaken?
And the shared HC channels from the beginning With App/ODDR/TGV were actualy premade channels With no purpose in case of emergency?
premade channels? we use our shared HC channels round after round, it's just random channels that are controlled by current HC's from either alliance. And we didn't have a shared HC channel from the start that round, only a shared scan channel as the only thing we agreed upon pre-round was that we would share scanners.

As for the BP's, yes TGV and App had a number of shared BP's that round. There were some issues filling up one or 2 of these BP's so other allies had been asked if they had members willing to join them. This wasn't just ODDR, but we also asked CT and ND afaik. In the end the players in BP's that weren't filled up played random tho.
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That kind of agreement tends to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
While i agree with that premise, as blocks are inevitable in this game, there really wasn't that much of an agreement. It was more of an understanding after a good relation from the round before, when we fought against Zwanstics galaxy, and FAnG, together. An understanding that isn't at all different from the obvious relation FAnG and ND have had for the past 8 rounds.
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I Guess he tries to say its not possibole to just say that they are going for the win without having a team wich would be able to put in a hell lot of effort to do so.
And even investing so much effort and will into winning aint Worth it as in the end its not sure if its up to you if Your gonna win or not
Actually probably couldn't have put it better myself, thanks butcher
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While i agree with that premise, as blocks are inevitable in this game, there really wasn't that much of an agreement. It was more of an understanding after a good relation from the round before, when we fought against Zwanstics galaxy, and FAnG, together. An understanding that isn't at all different from the obvious relation FAnG and ND have had for the past 8 rounds.
Its so fun that you think FAnG has had some agreements in place every round to work together, and make sure everyone else dont stand a chance.
Im sure a lot of the HCs of FAnG will say that there was no pre-round agreements of any sort this, or any other round.
As a FAnG HC last round they won i can assure you that there was no deal with any alliance when that round started, and any deals that were made afterwards was because actions of other allies hitting FAnG.
You will claim that R51 it was the other way around, FAnG and ND had preblocked into the round, and was allready ready to make you pay for being bigger and better as usual, yet you had agreed to share scanners, BPs, HC channel, and what not, i Wonder how you think anyone would belive what you claim that you did not intend to work with Apprime is true, wich it aint, with all these things you just said?
No wonder why certain people in this community take you for fools
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only person i take for a fool is you butcher.
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I think hes making sense for a change baddars, behave yourself!
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Its so fun that you think FAnG has had some agreements in place every round to work together, and make sure everyone else dont stand a chance.
Im sure a lot of the HCs of FAnG will say that there was no pre-round agreements of any sort this, or any other round.
As a FAnG HC last round they won i can assure you that there was no deal with any alliance when that round started, and any deals that were made afterwards was because actions of other allies hitting FAnG.
You will claim that R51 it was the other way around, FAnG and ND had preblocked into the round, and was allready ready to make you pay for being bigger and better as usual, yet you had agreed to share scanners, BPs, HC channel, and what not, i Wonder how you think anyone would belive what you claim that you did not intend to work with Apprime is true, wich it aint, with all these things you just said?
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From what I have read from Influence and Rex in this thread Vikings aren't denying that had something in place with Apprime before round start. They are merely clarifying what they had. It's pretty simple. If a predicted fang/nd block emerged they would come together to fight against it. App and Vikings were on friendly terms and had complimenting strats so bping together made sense. Though they weren't exclusively app/Viking bps. This team ONLY activated its block because of fang/nd blocking first. Stop bloody blocking and people wint have to make plans like this against you!!
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Um....Im pretty sure ND/FAnG didn't block first...ND was our top hostile for most of the first 4-500 ticks...

So its an interesting fantasy you have managed to create, but it is false
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Um....Im pretty sure ND/FAnG didn't block first...ND was our top hostile for most of the first 4-500 ticks...

So its an interesting fantasy you have managed to create, but it is false
I think its pretty stupid sharing scanners aswell when your hitting each other
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ND and FAnG never shared scanners?
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ND and FAnG never shared scanners?
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Re: Message to Vikings from Spore

we only started sharing scanners around tick 200ish, after i suggested it because we were both struggling for a fulltime active scan team.

By this point, the universe was already moving into relations mode, but we never had a proper relation at this point.

Up till about tick 300, TGV hit the app planets in our gal raids and App hit the TGV. Although we did try avoid gals which were too heavy i will grant that. Think we wouldnt hit a gal with more than 2 App in if memory serves me right.

Scans for raids were not requested through the scan chan, so the risk of leakage wasnt really an issue.
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Baddars you are confusing me, who do you actually play for?!

I thought CT!
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this round CT! but i was TGV hc round 51 :P
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we only started sharing scanners around tick 200ish, after i suggested it because we were both struggling for a fulltime active scan team.

By this point, the universe was already moving into relations mode, but we never had a proper relation at this point.

Up till about tick 300, TGV hit the app planets in our gal raids and App hit the TGV. Although we did try avoid gals which were too heavy i will grant that. Think we wouldnt hit a gal with more than 2 App in if memory serves me right.

Scans for raids were not requested through the scan chan, so the risk of leakage wasnt really an issue.
So influence saying you agreed to share scanners preround is the same concept that you agreed to block the hell out of the round if you belived there was someone else working together?
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L00k ,

If Viks hadn't done the dirty deed of being dishonorable when they gave conn their word to team up with FAnG then you wouldn't even be having this conversation right now.

That said, CT always plays a smart round, they no dummies. Viks on their other hand play by seat of their pants and hope for the perfect chance to screw over somebody, but they do defend well. And for Influence, dude I known you a long time and if you condone Clouds methods then, your lost in the bullsh0t somewhere dude.

B-Bitch3r please go away, can we just pay you to go away or should we just pay some Brazilian wacko to come sabotage your pc and inet. All can be said is Viks rumors are flying they wont play next round, well too fkn bad, cuz payback is a b!tch.

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You say this like someone actually cares. CT has already won so no one is playing for anything. Seems the new trend in PA is king making as the last few rnds show.
vik/app/hr/fi/rock/xvx/inn hitting ct.

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