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What alliance could have beaten LDk as they are now?
What do you think? are there any?? 
I think Titans would have given them a fair fight. Legion and Fury probably too, not many more could, imo.
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lmao
nice one Cicada 
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Killmark could give them a good run for their money, same level etc. Bot vs Multies
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Killmark could give them a good run for their money, same level etc. Bot vs Multies
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Sigh, you and MrL_Jakiri beat me to it.
My non-comedy answer was going to be: RB or Killmark.
No one else has the organizational skills to pull it off. Like having all members send their logins to one email address to simplify and streamline account sharing for instance.
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Legion and Fury and R8 Titans could have taken LDK , just ignorant attacks and waste of fleets is all I see other alliances doing at the moment. LDK is not doing anything that I would label "genius" , all they are doing is attacking and defending as normal. The alliances attacking LDK though I dunno wtf their doing , but their not using their noggins.
#1: Start small to see how well it goes first.
#2: Take a couple of days to scan your target and figure out their "main" online times, so you can attack "around" their prime times.
#3: If your "small" target is mainly a defender then do not launch to roid launch to kill a.k.a. catch their fleet.
#4: If you are successful attacking 3 small targets in a row then move up to a Medium one and repeat process except you actually try to also roid medium level planets.
#5: If you start attacking TOP planets first then that TOP planet is NOT what is preventing you from roiding it, it is the SMALL-MEDIUM planets which are preventing you.
#6: It is better to have DEFENCE wasted on small-medium targets before you spend massive amounts of ships to attack a TOP planet. <Meaning if a group of alliances got together to take a alliance out , then 1 group can launch at an earlier time on that alliances small-medium planets to get defence scattered across the universe before the other alliance launches on the top planet.
#7: Fakes usually ALWAYS if done correctly sucks up defence.
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only Xanadu
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Just wondering, do you mean Xanadu with LDK or without? (edit: got it five minutes late heh)
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Just wondering, do you mean Xanadu with LDK or without? (edit: got it five minutes late heh)
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Killmark > LDK
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Originally posted by HobbieRogue4
Logically, it would have to be the option of "inclusion" as Xanadu without it's LDK members was prior to their "status explosion" in Round 4. Anything prior to that wouldn't have stood a chance... not without significant allied support.
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no single alliance can beat LDK at this moment this far in the round
face it
only a group of alliances can, a block if you want to call it that
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this far into the round no single alliance which ever existed in pa could have beaten them imho.
but if lets say rd 3 fury were still playing, i am fairly sure they'd have given them a good fight. or the rd 2 legion.
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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
Legion and Fury and R8 Titans could have taken LDK , just ignorant attacks and waste of fleets is all I see other alliances doing at the moment. LDK is not doing anything that I would label "genius" , all they are doing is attacking and defending as normal. The alliances attacking LDK though I dunno wtf their doing , but their not using their noggins.
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LDK this round isn't "all that" in fact it doesn't seem an overly impressive LDK in comparison to previous rounds it just seems as though the opposition to them is rubbish. Also Unf LDK would have had a hard time to stand against Fury and Legion not just because we could call on far more fleets than them but because our elite was just as well if not better organised than LDK.
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Originally posted by Hicks
LDK this round isn't "all that" in fact it doesn't seem an overly impressive LDK in comparison to previous rounds it just seems as though the opposition to them is rubbish. Also Unf LDK would have had a hard time to stand against Fury and Legion not just because we could call on far more fleets than them but because our elite was just as well if not better organised than LDK.
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The majority of the good command members are now long gone as are the majority of the good players who could think on their feet and move roids around without a BC spoon feeding them
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sad thing
but youre right
I also agree on all new alliances go to fast forward. Start small, work your way. This round is perfect for getting a core of an allian ce for later rounds etc.
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3 Jul 2003, 22:45
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3 Jul 2003, 22:48
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Fury or round 3-4 wolfpack would probably vaporize them =)
Sertain rounds of Legion could beat em aswell =)
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LDK is better than Killmark, but only because he was caught...
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In a solo round? of true solo's? ... one on one without cloak and dagger alliance's and nap's ... or so called ' friendships ' ... or ' shared ' BG's ? Vs LDK ? ... thats a hard one.
Early Legion pre-WolfPack/NoS split could have done it imho.
Ok so this next one isnt exacly one on one...
R8 Titans could have done it with support from a ' smaller ' group such as ToT or RaH.
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... and R8 fury was as good if not better than LDK. It was just that Fury kept its word and went solo, against the rest of the 'blocked' universe.
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... and R8 fury was as good if not better than LDK. It was just that Fury kept its word and went solo, against the rest of the 'blocked' universe.
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Wolfpack of round 4 rocked the party. I didnt like em for leaving my Legion at the time but I godda admit they were one wicked alliance. I think they could of taken on LDK if there was no blocking nor any cheating or farming on either side involved.
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Wolfpack of round 4 rocked the party. I didnt like em for leaving my Legion at the time but I godda admit they were on wicked alliance. I think they could of taken on LDK if there was no blocking nor any cheating or farming on either side involved.
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But we had the mentality of "fighting and dieing for eachother", which is exactly what you need to beat LDK. And we had nice scores as well  (Some Furies weren't pleased to find out )
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4 Jul 2003, 11:59
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... and R8 fury was as good if not better than LDK. It was just that Fury kept its word and went solo, against the rest of the 'blocked' universe.
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But to assist you; LDK is still solo.
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Quote:
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... and R8 fury was as good if not better than LDK. It was just that Fury kept its word and went solo, against the rest of the 'blocked' universe.
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r2 Fury, early r3 Fury.
r5 Fury + r5 Wrath (Taking into account that r5 Fury was recovering from a major loss.)
r6 Fury + any Wrath
r7 Fury + any Wrath
r5 Wrath + any "bad round" Fury.
Won't bother giving my opinions for other alliances I havent been a part of.
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r2 Fury, early r3 Fury.
r5 Fury + r5 Wrath (Taking into account that r5 Fury was recovering from a major loss.)
r6 Fury + any Wrath
r7 Fury + any Wrath
r5 Wrath + any "bad round" Fury.
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"<My alliance> / <My old alliance> would have beaten them easily. We were the best thing since sliced bread. Even if I do say so myself."
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"<My alliance> / <My old alliance> would have beaten them easily. We were the best thing since sliced bread. Even if I do say so myself."
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Eheuheuhe.
I hate this word/phrase usually, but I can't think of any other to reply to this:
"pld"
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EDIT: On a serious note, I'm not sure any alliance could take down LDK. They seem to excel in random rounds (why don't they do very well in private rounds? Might be an interesting discussion...), so it would need to be one of the old pre-private alliances that could counter them.
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Originally posted by Tomkat
EDIT: On a serious note, I'm not sure any alliance could take down LDK. They seem to excel in random rounds (why don't they do very well in private rounds? Might be an interesting discussion...), so it would need to be one of the old pre-private alliances that could counter them.
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I'd hardly say they did badly in R4.
Anyway, an alliance's performance is strongly related to potential rivals performance. Doing well in one round (generally) seems to relate pretty strongly to doing badly (or worse) in the next. Generally due to propaganda/dislike of those at the top syndrome.
Fury after R3, Xanadu after R4, Fury/Legion after R5, etc.
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