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Unread 6 Aug 2003, 17:40   #1
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Seraphim

What do you people know, think, like or dislike about this alliance... Some usefull comments would be usefull. No flaming plz!
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Unread 6 Aug 2003, 18:02   #2
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I'll be objective, and just tell you what I know.

Seraphim was founded about midway through Round 9 as a split off from ViruS. The main reason was because Viper and Ladybug were demoted from their HC positions and many members were angered at this..including myself. So...after Ladybug and Viper left, a sizable amount of members from ViruS and other alliances followed them and created Seraphim.

The HC were me, Viper, Ladybug, neone, and OXX. I have since left them and returned to ViruS. OXX has retired from pa and neone has also stepped down from HC. Afaik, the current HC are Argilus, Ladybug, Whitesnake and Viper. I feel like I'm missing one, but...well, there you go.
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I covered the basic formation, what are you talking about?
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I dont know what you're talking about, go bug someone else.

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Unread 6 Aug 2003, 19:31   #7
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please enlighten us then instead of being a penis.
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I heard Seraphim is almost dead.

I havent ever spoken to a Seraphim member though.
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I just looked at the top 100 list, I can see 2 Seraphim members there. I suppose they're a decent medium sized alliance, but I've never really spoken to any of them.

Virus only had 2 too, looks like they were both better off when they were just 1.
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I just looked at the top 100 list, I can see 2 Seraphim members there. I suppose they're a decent medium sized alliance, but I've never really spoken to any of them.

Virus only had 2 too, looks like they were both better off when they were just 1.
well, let's see how each alliance does in round 10. Round 9.5 wasnt a serious round for many and ViruS had to recover from the split. Seraphim was new and was still building up during the 'inactive' round.

Should be interesting tho
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Unread 7 Aug 2003, 04:44   #17
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That's more or less usefull, thankz... Round 10 thud clear few things up though... can't wait!
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That's more or less usefull, thankz... Round 10 thud clear few things up though... can't wait!
I take it that you're trying to join...or have joined?
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Unread 7 Aug 2003, 06:47   #19
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well, neither.. i'm just trying to choose which alliance to join. Some are big, but i don't know many people there, so it prolly won't be too fun at the start, and then some are medium and i have a lot of friends there ( e.g seraphim) but i'm not sure if they will be able to provide enough defence. So i can't decide!
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Talking the one you forgot

you forgot about the main man in Seraphim....how could you do this to him azure


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well, neither.. i'm just trying to choose which alliance to join. Some are big, but i don't know many people there, so it prolly won't be too fun at the start, and then some are medium and i have a lot of friends there ( e.g seraphim) but i'm not sure if they will be able to provide enough defence. So i can't decide!
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but i'm not sure if they will be able to provide enough defence. So i can't decide!
Don't ask what the alliance can do for you, but what you can do for your alliance.. :P
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i said i can't decide what's better, having lots of m8 in your alliance, or being more or less sure that you'll get defence when needed. I just had some bad experience before. when i got wasted and i could not do anything. Don't want that to happen. But i don't know much of the things that seraphim has done so far. Were they good or bad last round?!
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It depends on what is the factor for you. To win or to play with mates. If you want to win, then i would reccomend to join bigger alliances, as medium alliances dont stand a chance in r10 (its only my own oppinion ). I was always playing in the alliance where i had most mates (it was always LDK, r9 was an exception), however i knew that weet side was stronger, i joined madcows anyway.
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I was always playing in the alliance where i had most mates (it was always LDK, r9 was an exception), however i knew that weet side was stronger, i joined madcows anyway.

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I know nothing about the HC apart from Viper is being as inactive as ever (from former ViruS members of Seraphim).

c0rn seems to be one of the most active officers in Seraphim, he does a reasonable job from what I hear. Nice bloke to have around most of the time.

Seraphim suffered quite a bit from their "top members" hogging all of their defence, and by the time that they had been found out and had moved to LDK etc. the damage haad been done.

They also were subject to ViruS organising and suceeding on taking down 4 HC/ ex-HC Seraphim members towards the end of R9.5. This may not sound like a great victory for ViruS but it does demoralise members and puts a question over the ability to defend (tho it was in the last week of the round so I guess that nobody really cared).

ViruS have had a quiet R9.5, just biding our time for next round. I dont know the exact details of what is going on yet, but no doubt the HC know what they are doing

Expect to see us closer to the top this time
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i said i can't decide what's better, having lots of m8 in your alliance, or being more or less sure that you'll get defence when needed.
I'd say they are in direct correlation with each other. Your friends will always want to defend you, or should, at least.


The choice is, do you want an alliance with your friends in (who might not be willing to play as seriously as you), or do you want an alliance that might win. An alliance winning does not mean it will always be able to defend you.
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I'd say they are in direct correlation with each other. Your friends will always want to defend you, or should, at least.


The choice is, do you want an alliance with your friends in (who might not be willing to play as seriously as you), or do you want an alliance that might win. An alliance winning does not mean it will always be able to defend you.
good point.

An alliance with all your friends might be more enjoyable, but the alliance might not be a powerhouse as well.

Just know what you want and the choice should be clear.
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im proud that i was seraphim in my last round and i tried to defend as much as i can and not to grab any def if not really needed

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If this is true.. I'm afraid Seraphim is doomed for failure.
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seraphim are a good ally there members are really active and some of them even got scores over 5mill last round.

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and for you not able top decide on alliance, dont join a big one. The round wont be funny if there are just a few alliances able to "win"

The best thing would be having several canidates for winning.

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ask ladybug how i did in seraphim

basically i joined as a spy, got to the rank of DC, and then they found out or something, either way i was planning to reveal my self.

quite funny really, allthough ladybug didn't seem to agree
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ask ladybug how i did in seraphim

basically i joined as a spy, got to the rank of DC, and then they found out or something, either way i was planning to reveal my self.

quite funny really, allthough ladybug didn't seem to agree
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seraphim are a good ally there members are really active and some of them even got scores over 5mill last round
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It is quite sad that every new alliance, which has some evident potential, gets taken its chance because spies infect it like flies would infect a rotting corps.
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It is quite sad that every new alliance, which has some evident potential, gets taken its chance because spies infect it like flies would infect a rotting corps.
we didnt have a decent spy in seraphim till PIAC (basically way past their beginning)

besides, due to the way the conflict occured, im sure seraphim had/stlil has plenty of spies within ViruS.
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Unread 18 Aug 2003, 09:35   #41
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we didnt have a decent spy in seraphim till PIAC (basically way past their beginning)

besides, due to the way the conflict occured, im sure seraphim had/stlil has plenty of spies within ViruS.
what you base that on?
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Unread 18 Aug 2003, 09:35   #42
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we didnt have a decent spy in seraphim till PIAC (basically way past their beginning)

besides, due to the way the conflict occured, im sure seraphim had/stlil has plenty of spies within ViruS.
what you base that on?
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Unread 18 Aug 2003, 11:30   #43
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well not like sera and virus are best buddies, its only natural you would try get spies in virus

as we did with you

well, i shouldn't say we, im not playing pa/in virus anymore
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Unread 18 Aug 2003, 11:34   #44
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what you base that on?
It's like a well known fact :P
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Unread 18 Aug 2003, 12:28   #45
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we didnt have a decent spy in seraphim
I beg to differ, I for myself know for a fact that Seaphim was crowded with spies from the very start.
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Unread 18 Aug 2003, 12:38   #46
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u mean u knew i was a spy?

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Unread 18 Aug 2003, 12:47   #47
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I found seraphim to be a small friendly alliance when i was in there in rd9.5. The people there are on the whole very decent.
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Unread 18 Aug 2003, 12:55   #48
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yes they try hard
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Unread 18 Aug 2003, 20:20   #49
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I beg to differ, I for myself know for a fact that Seaphim was crowded with spies from the very start.
Aaranaf has no reason to lie, heh, he admitted Piac, but if he says that it wasnt crowded with virus spies, then they must have been from other places...
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Unread 18 Aug 2003, 22:59   #50
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I beg to differ, I for myself know for a fact that Seaphim was crowded with spies from the very start.
no doubt that it was crowded with spies WipeOut, but we, as in ViruS, didnt really crowd them
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