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Unread 8 Jun 2003, 22:34   #1
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ascii/binary ftp modes
i know php files should be uploaded in ascii and images in binary but i was wondering what exactly they are and what happens if say images are uploaded in ascii form.
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Re: ascii/binary ftp modes
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i know php files should be uploaded in ascii and images in binary but i was wondering what exactly they are and what happens if say images are uploaded in ascii form.
In ASCII mode, line endings such as \n are converted to "system" line endings.

E.g. going from unix ftp server to windows machine -> \n is changed to \r\n
or going from windows machine to unix machine -> \r\n is converted to \n

Or not. I'm speculating, thats what appears to happen to me.
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Seriously tho, you tweaked my curiosity, I killed the cat, and tapped this in

/goog difference ftp ascii binary mode

Funnily enough it gave me the answer I was looking for on the first 10 links it found.
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Then, as stupid as this sounds, what's the ****ing point of ASCII mode transfer at all when Binary will do the same and not get things ****ed up?

Just wondering...
Edit:
Oh, cr/lf conversion.

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It's there because of the mess you get without it.
CRLF opened in linux gives you an odd character at the end of every line, while CR only (i think linux is CR only, not LF) gives you an unreadable mess in any non-aware text editor in windows.

Think how much of pain in the arse it would be to edit PHP files on a windows machine and upload them to a linux server without this automatic conversion.

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It's there because of the mess you get without it.
CRLF opened in linux gives you an odd character at the end of every line, while CR only (i think linux is CR only, not LF) gives you an unreadable mess in any non-aware text editor in windows.

Think how much of pain in the arse it would be to edit PHP files on a windows machine and upload them to a linux server without this automatic conversion.
True.

But as I despise Linux it affects me not =)
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It does if any server you use is running it.

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It does if any server you use is running it.
I'm hosted on Win2000 servers for the XP loveliness while still getting Perl and PHP.

I have no need of Linux nonsense except for Uni work =))
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It's there because of the mess you get without it.
CRLF opened in linux gives you an odd character at the end of every line, while CR only (i think linux is CR only, not LF) gives you an unreadable mess in any non-aware text editor in windows.
Unix/Linux use LF, ASCII 10. Macs use CR, ASCII 13, although OS X uses LF sometimes instead.
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