xBox or PS2

[skiddy]

I want a PS2 because of GT3 and FFX/FFX2

I want an xBox because of RS3, Splinter Cell, NFL Gameday and the online playage with the headsets etc...

Which should I buy this afternoon.

Yes, buying both is an option because, well, I earn a shitload of money, but I'd rather not if I can get away with it.

[Stew]

xbox
halo2 soon
u dont need reasons anyway, just xbox

[skiddy]

See I never really got excited about Halo, it was more the NFL Fever 2004 which caught my eye. I'm aware I said Gameday above - my bad!

[MrL_JaKiri]

Gamecube.

I thought Halo 2 was an XBox 2 release, anyway.

[djbass]

Sega Master System II

[JammyJim]

ps2

gt4

[Snurx]

Super Nintendo

FF6, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Street Fighter 2 ++

[Zar]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Gamecube.

[pablissimo]

Out of those two, a PS2. Splinter Cell you can get for the PC if you're desperate, as you can Halo (though why you'd want to is beyond me).

[Dante Hicks]

PS2 has a better overall catalogue of games, but the X-Box can be used for me (e.g. Snes Emulator, Divx player, etc, etc)

[MrL_JaKiri]

You can play online with a PC, you can play better games for the PC.

And FF X and X-2 aren't as good as the rest I hear (not that I like the series anyway)

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

PS2 has a better overall catalogue of games, but the X-Box can be used for me (e.g. Snes Emulator, Divx player, etc, etc)

You mean like a PC can?

[pablissimo]

FFX wasn't too bad in the end though the actual 'ending' was just a shade shite. Though this won't stop me from getting X-2. Once I get my job.

[pablissimo]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

You mean like a PC can?

There's nothing quite like coming in after a night out and playing a Sensible Soccer tournament on your XBox with a group of drunk friends.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

You mean like a PC can?

I don't like the idea of having a PC in my living room. We use the X-Box to stream movies, etc off our file server (which is upstairs).

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by pablissimo

FFX wasn't too bad in the end though the actual 'ending' was just a shade shite. Though this won't stop me from getting X-2. Once I get my job.

Why not play Knights of the Old Republic?

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

I don't like the idea of having a PC in my living room. We use the X-Box to stream movies, etc off our file server (which is upstairs).

I have a PC in my living room. I don't see what the problem is

[Ebany]

We have a computer to do that. It was spare...

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

I have a PC in my living room. I don't see what the problem is

It's not a major problem, just prefer the remote control/easy menus of the X-Box. The X-Box is also marginally quieter.

Of course, you could build a PC with a remote control, mini-ITX form factor with minimal noise, etc but I doubt it'd be cheaper than an X-Box.

[Ebany]

It hums a bit, but its hardly loud enough to be an issue. And we got a wireless mouse which is good enough for a rempte control. We could get a proper remote control (I've seen one on the net somewhere) but I dont see the point when a mouse is just as good.

[MrL_JaKiri]

It also acts as a gateway!

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Ebany

We have a computer to do that. It was spare...

I don't have a spare PC anymore .

We used to have 3 spares, one got given away, one broke, and one was made into an arcade machine.

[skiddy]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

I have a PC in my living room. I don't see what the problem is

You have 6^14 computers in every room.

And no, Gamecube is bad.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by skiddy

And no, Gamecube is bad.

You speak craziness earth boy.

[Obliterate]

If you can afford to, just get both. Then you get the advantages of both consoles and a wider range of games available to you.

[Ebany]

Get both, and get me a PS1 while youre at it

[Deepflow]

ps2

gt4, gta games, a better general catalogue (especially in any type of fighting game, which is what i end up playing). backwards compatability... and... an actual decent controller. thank ****.

+ dvd player, but i assume you already have one of them as you are so damn rich.

[Deepflow]

and... PCs are relatively very very very expensive.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Deepflow

and... PCs are relatively very very very expensive.

Well, about £100 more, with the capability to DO much more.

[Deepflow]

you can get a PC that will run the latest games for £195?

tell me where, ill get it immediately (serious)

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Deepflow

you can get a PC that will run the latest games for £195?

tell me where, ill get it immediately (serious)

You can get a PS2 for £95?

tell me where, ill get it immediately!

ps.

£250 is something I priced out.

[Deepflow]

cex

i know its 2nd hand, but everything ive ever got from there has worked fine.

now... what specs is this 250 comp and where can i get it?

[MrL_JaKiri]

Make it yourself.

Athlon XP 2200+, GeForce 5200, 512Mb of DDR 2700, 120Gb WDSE Hard Drive. You can get a much better processor for (say) £20 more.

[Deepflow]

and you can get a computer + allll peripherals with internet etc for £250 that will run all the latest games well? i dont personally believe it, im not prepared to go and add stuff up either.

you can if you want though.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Deepflow

and you can get a computer + allll peripherals with internet etc for £250 that will run all the latest games well? i dont personally believe it, im not prepared to go and add stuff up either.

you can if you want though.

I own one duder. Well, it was more like £300, £350, but it was over 6 months ago, and things have dropped in price quite a lot (£25 off the same HDD, for instance)

Also bear in mind that I ADDED IT UP BEFORE I MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT THE PRICE, I didn't just pick a figure out of the air then make a computer to that.

[Deepflow]

and the technology needed to have a PCthat will work at the top end of games has also gone up. it all balances out duder.

and i personally dont really want to pay £150 extra for something i have to make myself that i think has inferior games anyway.

+ + + i can play games while being on the internet, though i suppose thats counteracted by the fact i can watch telly while playing games on a pc.

[Ebany]

My shiny computer

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Deepflow

and the technology needed to have a PCthat will work at the top end of games has also gone up. it all balances out duder.

Technology is two years ahead of games duder. At least.

My radeon 9700 pro (from Jan of last year) will be good for quite a while yet.

Furthermore, if you want to view it like that, it's IDIOTIC to buy the current generation console, because the new ones will be coming out pretty soon.

Originally Posted by Deepflow

and i personally dont really want to pay £150 extra for something i have to make myself that i think has inferior games anyway.

Inferior games?

You're also ignoring the fact that it can do so much more, and is upgradable.

Originally Posted by Deepflow

+ + + i can play games while being on the internet, though i suppose thats counteracted by the fact i can watch telly while playing games on a pc.

I can play games while being on the internet on my computer too

[Dante Hicks]

I think it's quite clear that consoles are superior for certain tasks (or, in certain situation), and PC's for others.

I currently own no consoles and have no need for any - but I can see why they're superior in some contexts.

[Dilly_D]

Originally Posted by skiddy

I want a PS2 because of GT3 and FFX/FFX2

I want an xBox because of RS3, Splinter Cell, NFL Gameday and the online playage with the headsets etc...

Which should I buy this afternoon.

Yes, buying both is an option because, well, I earn a shitload of money, but I'd rather not if I can get away with it.

ps2

-gran turismo 3 & 4
-Socom 2 (beats the living crap out of halo 1, & 2 doesn't stand a chance against it either)
-online play is a million times better than xbox
-when it comes to sports games, all 3 (ps2, xbox, GC) have them and I'm sure they're basically the same
-Splinter Cell is available, and just as good

and the single biggest advantage ps2 has over xbox: it's not made by Micro$oft

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Dilly_D

and the single biggest advantage ps2 has over xbox: it's not made by Micro$oft

No, it's made by Sony who are of course renowned for keeping it real with the kids on the street.

[Deepflow]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Technology is two years ahead of games duder. At least.

My radeon 9700 pro (from Jan of last year) will be good for quite a while yet.

Furthermore, if you want to view it like that, it's IDIOTIC to buy the current generation console, because the new ones will be coming out pretty soon.

Inferior games?

You're also ignoring the fact that it can do so much more, and is upgradable.

I can play games while being on the internet on my computer too

for the whole technology ahead of games thing... something six months old will still be obselete six months early? aight?

i personally think i can get 95 quids worth of play out of a ps2... and i probably wont even be able to afford a ps3 or WHATEVER when they come out. so itll be cool. + i already actually have one, but its in london as its joint owned by me and my brothers.

YES, inferior games.

i have a crappy laptop for internet shenanigans. Thatll work for quite a while yet, and it is upgradeable. So buying another computer (for me at least) would be worthless.

when i said 'being on the internet' i kinda meant explorer, most "games" as i was led to believe you were talking about them were applications that you went into and left the desktop to play... if ya catch my drift.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Dilly_D

PC

-grim fandango
-NOLF 2 (beats the living crap out of halo 1, & 2 doesn't stand a chance against it either)
-online play is a million times better than xbox
-when it comes to sports games, everything has them and I'm sure they're basically the same
-Splinter Cell is available, and just as good, yet not as good as Thief 2.

[Karmulian]

xbox

halo1&2 + knights of the old republic + project gotham 2

hara \o/

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Deepflow

for the whole technology ahead of games thing... something six months old will still be obselete six months early? aight?

The PS2 is, what, 3 years old? More?

Furthermore, the only real problem when playing 'new' games is the DX9 compatability, and every DX9 game will be back compatable to DX8 (at least the announced ones. There will come a time when this is not true though). My 3 year old PC can play all the latest games, and the only one it has even a tiny bit of trouble with is KoTOR.

Originally Posted by Deepflow

i personally think i can get 95 quids worth of play out of a ps2... and i probably wont even be able to afford a ps3 or WHATEVER when they come out. so itll be cool. + i already actually have one, but its in london as its joint owned by me and my brothers.

That's your choice of course, but I don't really see the point of paying for something and then not having it.

Originally Posted by Deepflow

YES, inferior games.

The only genre that isn't better on PC is Beat Em Up, and the only ones you really need are SSB:M and SC2, and they're both on the Gamecube. Racing games, possibly, but then that's not a very popular genre, and MKD and FZ:X are superb (GC again).

Originally Posted by Deepflow

i have a crappy laptop for internet shenanigans. Thatll work for quite a while yet, and it is upgradeable. So buying another computer (for me at least) would be worthless.

Laptops are upgradable now

Originally Posted by Deepflow

when i said 'being on the internet' i kinda meant explorer, most "games" as i was led to believe you were talking about them were applications that you went into and left the desktop to play... if ya catch my drift.

Most games. Of course, there is this mystical thing called 'alt tab'.

'Oh no, I have to pause my game to go onto the internet!'

Well, yes, but you have to stop playing the game to go on the net anyway.

In addition, loading times on the PC are faster, you get the whole mod community, better updates, better graphics, and the like.

[Deepflow]

you compare grim fandango to gran turismo?

and i got bored with thief 2... not sure why. is mgs2 out on pc yet? will it be? also, that new one (its name escapes me) is coming soon.

thief is one of my all time fave games though

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Karmulian

xbox

halo1&2 + knights of the old republic + project gotham 2

hara \o/

PC!

Halo 1 (even though it's rubbish) and 2.

KOTOR!

And so on, so forth.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Deepflow

you compare grim fandango to gran turismo?

Because they sound the same. It's a 'JOKE'.

Also, Grim Fandango is a masterpiece.

Originally Posted by Deepflow

and i got bored with thief 2... not sure why.

Because you are a FOOL!

Originally Posted by Deepflow

is mgs2 out on pc yet? will it be? also, that new one (its name escapes me) is coming soon.

I thought MGS2 was widely regarded as 'not very good'

Also, the X-Box is to blame for ruining two of the games with the greatest potential (Thief 3 and Deus Ex 2) that the PC has seen in a while.

[Baron Morte]

Computers owns any console out there and they can acess the boards, and 3d shooters without mouse are stupid and unplayable. Computer all the way. Afterwards you can just get the emulators and...well..own everything.
and you can get porn and shit. mp3 and...uhhhh....free games

the last console i had was a super nes cos its ****ing pointless to have one

[Deepflow]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

That's your choice of course, but I don't really see the point of paying for something and then not having it..

i happen to love my brothers and wouldnt like to deprive them when they outnumber me by 100%. and its only MOSTLY mine.

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

The only genre that isn't better on PC is Beat Em Up, and the only ones you really need are SSB:M and SC2, and they're both on the Gamecube. Racing games, possibly, but then that's not a very popular genre, and MKD and FZ:X are superb (GC again).

beat em up games happen to be something i play an awful awful lot (or used to at least, and i definitely know what im talking about). The best 3D ones we have had in recent years are ttt and vf4:evo. TTT is becoming ancient now, but evo is still fresh. 2D wise, streetfighter type things will always be the best, and the DC is the only decent place to go for there, i have one of those just for that actually.

racing games arent very popular
maybe not on the pc.
also, are those games you mentioned better than GT3? i doubt it, but then, i cant say ive played them.

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Laptops are upgradable now

yes... you open it up and put stuff in and stuff like etc.

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Most games. Of course, there is this mystical thing called 'alt tab'.

'Oh no, I have to pause my game to go onto the internet!'

Well, yes, but you have to stop playing the game to go on the net anyway.

In addition, loading times on the PC are faster, you get the whole mod community, better updates, better graphics, and the like

yes, you have to pause to do something else anyway, and if you have a laptop on your desk at the same time anyway, the whole pausing thing isnt an issue.

i certainly havent noticed faster loading times on the PC, if anything they are slower. + booting up etc is a chore.

i never really got into mods or anything, so i cant really judge that. Yeah, graphics are better, but at the level graphics have got to in general, i dont even notice, gameplay has always been more important to me.

and talking of gameplay, i dont think PCs normally have anything to compete with a four player game with all your mates in a comfortable sitting room set up in 2 minutes.