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23 Sep 2003, 13:05
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 23,481
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I Resign as Mod.
Because of the terrible way that the forum switch has been carried out, I am resigning in protest.
More than any other game, this is one based around the community, and hence the forums. It's also quite clear to see that the game is doing badly at the moment, given the number of signups.
It therefore makes sense to not shoot yourself in the foot and attempt to keep the community onside. However, by making something needlessly difficult and complicated, you're just going to drive people away. People don't have to come here, people don't have to give you money. This is a consumer controlled market.
I am resigning because I cannot work with people who have the arrogance to assume that the thoughts and emotions of people are not important, who are too blind to see what they are doing. People who do not implement something important to the community because it would take so long.
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23 Sep 2003, 13:06
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Oh, and if you're going to announce something important, MAKE SURE YOU ANNOUNCE ANY CHANGES.
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23 Sep 2003, 13:08
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Banned
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Swansea
Posts: 148
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first post
Edit: to make this post productive, sorry to see you go man, but I have to admit the implimintation of the passport (OMG MSN RIPOFF OMG) was a shambles
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23 Sep 2003, 13:10
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Look! He's Dancing!
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Gawd Bless Glasgow
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Well done that man
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[22:18] <nodrog> Balls: Large hefty balls, stretched max 6" (15.5cm)
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23 Sep 2003, 13:17
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Lord Denning
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: City of London
Posts: 2,548
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Please bear in mind when reading the above post that I am always right.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson
He was crowned in York Cathedral as 'Expert in the West' by Pope Urban III in 1186.
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23 Sep 2003, 13:20
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The Twilight of the Gods
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[13:14] -P- Removed user MrL_JaKiri from #support
[13:14] -P- Removed user MrL_JaKiri from #helpdesk.ops
[13:15] -P- Removed user MrL_JaKiri from #planetarion.ops
[13:15] -P- Removed user MrL_JaKiri from #planetarion
[13:15] -P- Removed user MrL_JaKiri from #forums
[13:15] -P- Removed user MrL_JaKiri from #mods
So much for that.
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23 Sep 2003, 13:25
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Guy next door
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 4,745
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so what is exactly the problem ? what kind of implementation?
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23 Sep 2003, 13:29
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First Disciple of Aldur
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: The Vale of Aldur
Posts: 1,470
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Welcome to the ex-GD Mod Club.
I respect your reason for quitting, and applaud the work you have done in your own free time for keeping this board free of unnecessary spam and ****e.
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Yeah.
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23 Sep 2003, 13:29
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The Twilight of the Gods
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The refusal to add any kind of nickprotection, if you will, when we move onto a beta release of vb3 this weekend.
The lack of announcements about these significant changes.
The way the announcements board was removed (yes, that was a while ago, but I didn't like it then and it was just the place for this kind of thing).
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23 Sep 2003, 13:29
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Lord Denning
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: City of London
Posts: 2,548
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Quote:
Originally posted by SilverSmoke
so what is exactly the problem ? what kind of implementation?
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They claimed that our forum names would be reserved for the new forums, and they haven't been.
And surprisingly enough, people aren't too pleased when they have to change names purely because PA team can't keep their promises.
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Please bear in mind when reading the above post that I am always right.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson
He was crowned in York Cathedral as 'Expert in the West' by Pope Urban III in 1186.
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23 Sep 2003, 13:32
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Heh, Leeds !
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: In The Redfern
Posts: 3,790
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Crap, I respect you now
Vaio
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Yes, I know he is dead !
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23 Sep 2003, 13:35
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lol
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: lol
Posts: 384
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Is this where I apply for an admin job?
hi MrL
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K A R M U L I A N
:Thinkingof_:
Remember to think happy thoughts
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23 Sep 2003, 13:37
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Banned
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Swansea
Posts: 148
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Quote:
Originally posted by I Am Grimble
Is this where I apply for an admin job?
hi MrL
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thats two flights down and the second door on the left
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23 Sep 2003, 13:44
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King of The Fat Boys
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 3,332
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So, a protest resignation?
Or an attack by the phantom hacker???
Who's to say?!
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23 Sep 2003, 13:50
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Gone
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 14,656
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Is this for real? Really?
I am speechless.
What a terrible state of affairs.
The implementation of this passport scheme has certainly continued in the great PA tradition of shoddy implementation, this is true. And it is also true that many of us here have been aggrieved by it all, myself included.
But for all that we have to lose a great mod? It is a double blow for us, even though we understand your reasoning. For too long, it would seem, nobody has been willing to give any real amount of thought to either future developments or past failures and successes, let alone take some measure of responsibility or a principled stand.
Really, for too long forum users have been treated as if they didn't exist. I'm not even terribly sure why they have bothered to keep the forum; as to anybody who registered here a few years ago it's just an embarrassing shell. Poster activity, quality of posting and the general state of affairs have all been blasted into the most wretched condition, even within the space of a year. At this rate, I'm not even sure that a forum, in the real sense of the word will be a sustainable reality within another year. All this is self-evident to all long-stay posters, whether they care to admit it or ignore it.
And the most astonishing, most ridiculous part of it all, is that people have let it languish in this limbo.
Even mods and admins have shown a notable reduction in their time here, and frankly, who on earth cannot really empathise to some extent?
I think all of us have been rather complacent in the past, and we have just been far too quiet about, frankly, a lot of the nonsense that has gone on. I'm sure if this was a shop or a restaurant or something decidedly more commercial then it would have either died or been forced into the necessary changes quite some time ago.
But it's because that people do actually care about this place that they just haven't abandoned it. I care about it. Perhaps wrongly so. I believe we really do care about what happens to this place. But people simply haven't been full in their criticisms, self-examination and actions in the past, and I hope from now on that state of affairs will end for good. Something must be done. It has to be.
Last edited by Marilyn Manson; 23 Sep 2003 at 14:02.
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23 Sep 2003, 13:54
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,944
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Mr_L was hacked?
If not, well simply pld to him.
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I find it kind of funny
I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which i'm dying
Are the best i've ever had
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23 Sep 2003, 13:55
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
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I suspect a hacker would prefer to use my banning powers.
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23 Sep 2003, 14:01
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Banned
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Unknown:Blindfolded!!!
Posts: 420
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(Ex)Mod in taking a stand for the forums shocker!
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23 Sep 2003, 14:05
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'Useless'
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wellington, NZ.
Posts: 357
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pld MrL.
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Clearly.
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23 Sep 2003, 14:29
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Gone
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 14,656
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What prior consultation were the forum staff given over the passport issue, if any, and what, if anything, did they recommend?
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23 Sep 2003, 14:30
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The Twilight of the Gods
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It had been decided, basically.
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23 Sep 2003, 14:34
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Gone
Join Date: Jan 2001
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I thought so.
People who have no real personal link with the forums have been given complete reign to basically do what they like with them for far too long.
That's another reason for the present situation.
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23 Sep 2003, 14:35
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7 Dimensional Puddleduck
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Not where I want to be :(
Posts: 1,556
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Usually one quits whilst one is ahead....
But pld anyway
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<CmdrCyrax> I'm sure GDers are bastions of the civilized world.
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23 Sep 2003, 14:56
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King of The Fat Boys
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 3,332
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You do realise you're going to lose your avatar don't you?
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23 Sep 2003, 14:56
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 23,481
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Basil will never die.
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23 Sep 2003, 14:57
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Banned
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Unknown:Blindfolded!!!
Posts: 420
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChubbyChecker
You do realise you're going to lose your avatar don't you?
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Given that his (and ours as well) account will cease to exist in 4 days I cannot see that as being a huge shock to him.
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23 Sep 2003, 15:02
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King of The Fat Boys
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 3,332
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So we're all getting avatars in the new forum?
I hope not, avatars suck.
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23 Sep 2003, 15:05
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Avatars for all, apparantly.
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23 Sep 2003, 15:06
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Banned
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Swansea
Posts: 148
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
Avatars for all, apparantly.
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woo, i get my coffee and TV avitar here as well
is there a maximum size?
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23 Sep 2003, 15:07
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Shai Halud
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Sunny Leeds \o/
Posts: 2,127
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Quote:
Originally posted by Marilyn Manson
Is this for real? Really?
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Yes.
It has been discussed already on... another forum. WINK.
Sorry MrL I was required to work while at work for some reason and missed the excitement.
Jolly well done that man! It takes a lot of integrity to voluntarily lay down the bashing stick of moddery. Especially for reasons as fluffy as sticking to one's principles.
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23 Sep 2003, 15:08
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Quote:
Originally posted by Costa
woo, i get my coffee and TV avitar here as well
is there a maximum size?
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80x80, basil had to be trimmed.
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23 Sep 2003, 15:08
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Gone
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 14,656
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I hope JJ and/or people of senior level take this all on board, otherwise this is all rather pointless.
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23 Sep 2003, 15:09
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7 Dimensional Puddleduck
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Not where I want to be :(
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<CmdrCyrax> I'm sure GDers are bastions of the civilized world.
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23 Sep 2003, 15:12
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Ask an admin, ask an admin elsewhere.
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23 Sep 2003, 15:14
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Shai Halud
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Sunny Leeds \o/
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lol
"quicker than" should be your new rank.
It's obviously uber-funny because only about 3 people will understand.
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23 Sep 2003, 16:15
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:cool:
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Here, there and everywhere
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An admirable course of action.
Pity it won't make the slightest bit of difference
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Danger gleams like sunshine to a brave man's eyes.
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23 Sep 2003, 16:30
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cynic
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Bishop Auckland Co. Durham
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well done mate, i will buy you some guinness for this one, quite frankly, once again, they have fked it up, and i dont mean the forums ppl, shoddy implementation, lack of information and general all round lack of care are really starting to piss us all off i think
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23 Sep 2003, 16:32
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Quote:
Originally posted by roadrunner_0
guinness
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Guinness is its own reward.
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23 Sep 2003, 16:54
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Mr. Blobby
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Belgium
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A rather rigorous move there, MrL_JaKiri.
Well, I reckon you know how I feel - your access shouldn't have been revoked anywhere else.
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23 Sep 2003, 16:55
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Quote:
Originally posted by Leshy
Well, I reckon you know how I feel - your access shouldn't have been revoked anywhere else.
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I remusered myself, there's not malpractice from those areas directly.
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23 Sep 2003, 17:03
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Gone
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 14,656
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I'm off now, and if my account starts posting before tommorow morning, then it's not meh.
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23 Sep 2003, 17:05
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etc.
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Taken.
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The real tragedy lies in that even so bold a move as this will have zero effect on the future.
As Belgy stated, 'welcome.' :/
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23 Sep 2003, 17:19
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Poster Professionale
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Good bye!
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This thread is hijacked by a wiseguy! Please evacuate promptly at your nearest exit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nodrog
I wish we could trademark for a less shitty poster
hahahahahahaha, get it?
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23 Sep 2003, 17:21
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cynical Oracle
Good bye!
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I'm not going anywhere.
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23 Sep 2003, 17:53
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Poster Professionale
Join Date: Mar 2003
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GOD DAMNIT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nodrog
I wish we could trademark for a less shitty poster
hahahahahahaha, get it?
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23 Sep 2003, 17:57
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Bye bye modship, I didn't even get to ban nodrog.
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23 Sep 2003, 18:02
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Wearing Speedos
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Sometimes, I just love the farse that is PA
Only PA could code in retard++
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23 Sep 2003, 18:10
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Banned
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Further to the right
Posts: 19,441
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Thanks mark.
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23 Sep 2003, 18:10
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Quote:
Originally posted by JonnyBGood
Thanks mark.
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Enigmaticism is the new black.
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23 Sep 2003, 18:14
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Banned
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Further to the right
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
Enigmaticism is the new black.
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I was thinking that censor evasion resulting in me having this account banned probably wasn't the best idea ever.
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Some might ask what good is life without purpose but I'm anticipating a good lunch.
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