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Unread 7 Aug 2003, 09:55   #1
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Chivalry

Just simple things like paying for the bill, opening the door for her, getting her seat etc.


Long dead/old fashioned or a noble and worthwhile course of action?
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Unread 7 Aug 2003, 10:00   #2
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If i ever swore in front of my mum, my dad would kill me, but never said anything about me swearing in front of him.
And to this day, i never swear in front of the ladies.
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toccata has the right of it there i think, in my own way, i always try to be as chivalrous as possible as it does no harm and makes me feel better about myself
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I only open doors for girls with nice arses tbh.

gotta get something outta it y'know.
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Unread 7 Aug 2003, 12:50   #6
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anybody who can get sex out of someone for holding the door open is a super stud
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anybody who can get sex out of someone for holding the door open is a super stud
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Unread 7 Aug 2003, 12:56   #8
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wtf is this threahd alla bout?
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Well there is chivalry and there is manners. I will hold the door for anyone, allow ladies to go first when possible and help people with heavy luggage up stairs, give seat up on bus (never on the train though) I even find myself paying for drinks and so forth. There is a level though which it becomes pointless, and anyone who makes a big honour thing about paying for meals cos "I'm the man" has more money than I do. Women are perfectly capable of looking after themselves and should be treated as such. I don't want to over-analyse it but I guess if I have any chivalry it is trade off for constantly objectifying women.
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Unread 7 Aug 2003, 20:38   #10
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anybody who can get sex out of someone for holding the door open is a super stud
I would rather say that anyone who can get sex by opening doors, can get sex regardless..

Just like me.
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To be chivalrous or not to be, that is the question
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Unread 7 Aug 2003, 21:12   #12
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Well there is chivalry and there is manners.
Yeah, I agree broadly with this.

I would extend it though to general altruism - I try to help others wherever possible. When the person I'm trying to help (e.g. by opening the door) is a fit woman then so much the better. I try not to be too obvious although I'm sure the woman who asked me the way to Norbury the other day noticed I was leering at her cleavage.

In terms of things like paying for dinner, I'll happily pay if I earn more money than the other person, or they are short for whatever reason. Most relationships (of whatever kind) generally fall into some sort of agreeable pattern - e.g. going dutch, paying for dinner alternately, one person paying for drinks etc.
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Its good if it has a rational underlying point, its stupid if its just social convention. Holding doors open, and most of diniing ettiquite, is stupid. General politeness and manners arent. Always paying for meals when youre out with a female and simillar antics actually manage to go beyond stupidity.

Substituting "Your Humble Servant" for "Yours Sincerely/Faithfully" in letters is classy.
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Substituting "Your Humble Servant" for "Yours Sincerely/Faithfully" in letters is classy.
Most people who write things like "Your humbe servant" generally turn out to be arrogant bastards.
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Unread 8 Aug 2003, 12:52   #15
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Its good if it has a rational underlying point, its stupid if its just social convention. Holding doors open, and most of diniing ettiquite, is stupid. General politeness and manners arent. Always paying for meals when youre out with a female and simillar antics actually manage to go beyond stupidity.

Substituting "Your Humble Servant" for "Yours Sincerely/Faithfully" in letters is classy.
You know who else opened doors for women?



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Yes but I think it was considered the height of bad manners to susequently invade their country.
Those were not invasions, they were pre-emptive strikes against rogue nations.
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I open doors, etc for everybody. If they don't say thank you I kick them up the arse, though.
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Unread 8 Aug 2003, 13:44   #18
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if If I see someone who needs help, Ill do so if I can. (such as mothers trying to get prams onto trains and that sort of thing)I don't help people just on the basis that they're lookers or anything, I've just been brought up that way. I hate people who dont appreciate when you do something nice/helpful for them though. I do little things like hold doors open if people are following me, hold elevators if someone is running for one etc, but you always seem to get the odd arrogant asshole who doesnt say thank you, grumpy ****s dont even smile.

I think I might adopt MMs policy of kicking them in the arse...
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